How much is used P-3 500 computer worth?

Ablang wrote:

 > A co-worker wants to sell me their used P-3 500 Mhz computer. Here is it's
 > stats (to the best of his memory):
 >
 > P3-500
 > Soyo MB
 > ~ 400MB RAM
 > No monitor
 > 8 GB Maxtor
 > 2 GB Maxtor
 > 24x CDROM
 > 4X CD-RW (IDE)
 > 4MB Graphic Card
 > Sound Card
 > 56k Modem
 > Floppy Drive
 > Keyboard
 > Mouse
 >
 > What should I offer him?
 >

I'd offer him six dollars for it but only if he will deliver it *and* buy
your lunch. I'm getting ready to throw away a Compaq P2 550 with a 18 gig hdd
and 384mb of memory. I paid $2K for it when it was new and it was the fastest
thing going then. I recently built four AMD XP 2500+ machines all with 512mb
memory and 40 gig hdds and WinXP for less than it than that. The Compaq works
perfect and I'm going to set it in my parking lot, fill it and cover it with
gas and burn it up. It should be fun.



Roger<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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FITTY CENT$! if you like this person I'd say $65 if you don't I'd still say
$65! it would make a nice little Linux Box but not much else.
"Ablang" <HilaryDuff4Prez.RemoveThis@ablang-duff.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94B1ACB227DD503192004@195.131.52.135...
 > A co-worker wants to sell me their used P-3 500 Mhz computer. Here is it's
 > stats (to the best of his memory):
 >
 > P3-500
 > Soyo MB
 > ~ 400MB RAM
 > No monitor
 > 8 GB Maxtor
 > 2 GB Maxtor
 > 24x CDROM
 > 4X CD-RW (IDE)
 > 4MB Graphic Card
 > Sound Card
 > 56k Modem
 > Floppy Drive
 > Keyboard
 > Mouse
 >
 > What should I offer him?
 >
 > I forgot to say please compare the used computer I am considering buying
 > (above) with the one I currently own (below) and see if the used one is
 > even worth considering:
 >
 > Case: Mid Tower AT w/ 250W P.S. (3 5.25", 4 3.5" bays)
 > Motherboard: Asus P55T2P4 512 KB cache Baby AT 430 HX Socket 7
 > (3 PCI, 3 ISA)
 > CPU: Intel Pentium 133MHz, 3.3V Standard
 > Memory: 64 MB EDO RAM Simms
 > Monitor: 14" Hyundai HCM-423E Super VGA or
 > Sony Trinitron Multiscan 15sf (1280 x 1024;
 > free from neighborhood cleanup,
 > but doesn't display the color red)
 > Hard Drive: 8.4 GB Caviar Western Digital (IDE)
 > 2.1 GB Caviar Western Digital (IDE)
 > 850 MB Caviar Western Digital (IDE)
 > CD-ROM: 12X Pioneer DR-444 Internal (IDE)
 > Video Card: ATI All-in-Wonder 4MB EDO Dram 64-bit (PCI)
 > SCSI Card (Primary): Tekram DC-390F UW SCSI (PCI)
 > 40 MB/sec, flash bios, 15 devices max
 > 50-pin SCSI-2 internal
 > 68-pin Wide SCSI internal
 > 68-pin Wide SCSI external
 > CD-R Drive: Plextor Plexwriter 4/12 PX-R412Ci 50-pin Internal (SCSI)
 > Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE64 PnP Value Edition (ISA)
 > USB Adapter: OpTi 82C861 PCI to USB (PCI)
 > Modem: Newcom 33.6k (NCI1001) Internal (ISA)
 > SCSI Card (Secondary, for scanner): DTC-3181L 25-pin PnP (ISA)
 > Scanner: Mustek ScanMagic 1200LS 600 x 1200 36-bit (SCSI)
 > Portable Storage: Iomega Zip Drive 100MB (Parallel Port)
 > Printer: Lexmark 1100 (Parallel Port)
 > Floppy Drive: 1.44MB Mitsumi
 > Keyboard: PC Concepts Enhanced 101 Style.
 > Mouse: Mouse Systems PC Point Pro 3-button
 > Surge Protector: Memorex Power Center
 > UPS: Back-UPS 200 by APC
 >
 >
 >
 > --
 > "Expect nothing. Live frugally on surprise." -- Alice Walker<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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  >>A co-worker wants to sell me their used P-3 500 Mhz computer. Here is it's
  >>stats (to the best of his memory):
  >>
  >>P3-500
  >>Soyo MB
  >>~ 400MB RAM
  >>No monitor
  >>8 GB Maxtor
  >>2 GB Maxtor
  >>24x CDROM
  >>4X CD-RW (IDE)
  >>4MB Graphic Card
  >>Sound Card
  >>56k Modem
  >>Floppy Drive
  >>Keyboard
  >>Mouse
  >>
  >>What should I offer him?
 >
 >I'd hazard a guess of $200 Canadian ($140-$150 US depending on
 >exchange) is what it's worth.

I'd say $140 as an upper limit, given that new Microtels and Linares start at
$200, albeit with less RAM. I'd guess $100 is more reasonable, depending on
what OS it comes with. The 2 gig drive is almost useless except for hobbyist
operating system or data. The 8 gig drive is kind of small, and probably a
slow 5400 rpm. The 400 meg ram is nice, xp and linux + kde should do ok with
that. The floppy, KB, mouse, and CDRW are nice too, that's something that some
surplus outlet boxes won't include.

I had a similar box I used for linux and freebsd. It was 500 mhz celeron, 30
gig 7200 rpm hard drive, usb 1.1 / 2.0, linksys nic, USR 56 kbps v 90 external,
floppy, 48X cdrom, windows 98 SE, 4 meg shared video, 19 inch monitor
1600*1200. It had failing CDROM and a weak 130 W power supply. I gave it to a
family member for free -- but given the monitor and the external USR I would
have asked $125 or so had I sold it.

You might look at some prices at ebay.com, retrobox.com, and
softwareandstuff.com. Those will be retail prices.

 >Your system is worth $50 at a garage >sale, $25 as a
 >charitable donation, or -$25 where you pay a computer recycler to take
 >it away.

Yeah the P 133 isn't worth much. But it does have some nice peripherals which
add value. Minimal PI's are generally given away. I've been given a free P 90
(with SCSI) in 2000, and got a free P 100 (64 meg ram) and P 233 (32 meg ram)
this year. These machines are still very useable with Windows 98 or Slackware
linux. They also make a nice firewall.

Michael<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Interesting you should ask that right now. I just built a new PC. My old
PC (after stripping all the really good stuff) was a P3 500, 512MB of ram,
32MB diamond viper vid card, 13GB drive, 56K, kingston nic, dvd decoder card
and sound card.. No CD or DVD drive, I threw in an internal 100 MB zip in
the hole in front. No monitor or keyboard. I gave it to one of the guys at
work for $60. I only asked for $50 because I had no idea if the thing was
going to crap out tomrrow. I could feel good knowing I didn't screw the guy
and no matter what if he comes griping at me because it quit working a week
later I can feel good telling him its not my problem. He is happy, Im
really happy, and the old machine doesn't have to age unused until it is
worth only $5.

--Dan




"Ablang" <HilaryDuff4Prez.DeleteThis@ablang-duff.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94B1ACB227DD503192004@195.131.52.135...
 > A co-worker wants to sell me their used P-3 500 Mhz computer. Here is it's
 > stats (to the best of his memory):
 >
 > P3-500
 > Soyo MB
 > ~ 400MB RAM
 > No monitor
 > 8 GB Maxtor
 > 2 GB Maxtor
 > 24x CDROM
 > 4X CD-RW (IDE)
 > 4MB Graphic Card
 > Sound Card
 > 56k Modem
 > Floppy Drive
 > Keyboard
 > Mouse
 >
 > What should I offer him?
 >
 > I forgot to say please compare the used computer I am considering buying
 > (above) with the one I currently own (below) and see if the used one is
 > even worth considering:
 >
 > Case: Mid Tower AT w/ 250W P.S. (3 5.25", 4 3.5" bays)
 > Motherboard: Asus P55T2P4 512 KB cache Baby AT 430 HX Socket 7
 > (3 PCI, 3 ISA)
 > CPU: Intel Pentium 133MHz, 3.3V Standard
 > Memory: 64 MB EDO RAM Simms
 > Monitor: 14" Hyundai HCM-423E Super VGA or
 > Sony Trinitron Multiscan 15sf (1280 x 1024;
 > free from neighborhood cleanup,
 > but doesn't display the color red)
 > Hard Drive: 8.4 GB Caviar Western Digital (IDE)
 > 2.1 GB Caviar Western Digital (IDE)
 > 850 MB Caviar Western Digital (IDE)
 > CD-ROM: 12X Pioneer DR-444 Internal (IDE)
 > Video Card: ATI All-in-Wonder 4MB EDO Dram 64-bit (PCI)
 > SCSI Card (Primary): Tekram DC-390F UW SCSI (PCI)
 > 40 MB/sec, flash bios, 15 devices max
 > 50-pin SCSI-2 internal
 > 68-pin Wide SCSI internal
 > 68-pin Wide SCSI external
 > CD-R Drive: Plextor Plexwriter 4/12 PX-R412Ci 50-pin Internal (SCSI)
 > Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE64 PnP Value Edition (ISA)
 > USB Adapter: OpTi 82C861 PCI to USB (PCI)
 > Modem: Newcom 33.6k (NCI1001) Internal (ISA)
 > SCSI Card (Secondary, for scanner): DTC-3181L 25-pin PnP (ISA)
 > Scanner: Mustek ScanMagic 1200LS 600 x 1200 36-bit (SCSI)
 > Portable Storage: Iomega Zip Drive 100MB (Parallel Port)
 > Printer: Lexmark 1100 (Parallel Port)
 > Floppy Drive: 1.44MB Mitsumi
 > Keyboard: PC Concepts Enhanced 101 Style.
 > Mouse: Mouse Systems PC Point Pro 3-button
 > Surge Protector: Memorex Power Center
 > UPS: Back-UPS 200 by APC
 >
 >
 >
 > --
 > "Expect nothing. Live frugally on surprise." -- Alice Walker<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Roger M wrote:

 > ......... I'm getting ready to throw away a Compaq P2 550 with a 18 gig hdd
 > and 384mb of memory. I paid $2K for it when it was new and it was the fastest
 > thing going then. .......................................... The Compaq works
 > perfect and I'm going to set it in my parking lot, fill it and cover it with
 > gas and burn it up. It should be fun.


What a pity! If I were living close to your place (Philadelphia?) I
would try to talk you out of that, offering a good lunch or bottle of
a French chateau claret in exchange for your vintage Compaq;-)
(BTW - Is it legal in your country to burn living computers, and in a
quasi public place?)

Roy<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Before doing that I hope you would consider giving it to a local
charity. Many members of charities, particularly disabled groups,
would be able to use it.

KM

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 07:59:28 +0100, Roy Coorne <roy.coorne.TakeThisOut@gmx.net>
wrote:

 >Roger M wrote:
 >
  >> ......... I'm getting ready to throw away a Compaq P2 550 with a 18 gig hdd
  >> and 384mb of memory. I paid $2K for it when it was new and it was the fastest
  >> thing going then. .......................................... The Compaq works
  >> perfect and I'm going to set it in my parking lot, fill it and cover it with
  >> gas and burn it up. It should be fun.
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Ablang wrote:
 > A co-worker wants to sell me their used P-3 500 Mhz computer. Here is it's
 > stats (to the best of his memory):
 >
 > P3-500
 > Soyo MB
 > ~ 400MB RAM
 > No monitor
 > 8 GB Maxtor
 > 2 GB Maxtor
 > 24x CDROM
 > 4X CD-RW (IDE)
 > 4MB Graphic Card
 > Sound Card
 > 56k Modem
 > Floppy Drive
 > Keyboard
 > Mouse
 >
 > What should I offer him?
 >
 > I forgot to say please compare the used computer I am considering buying
 > (above) with the one I currently own (below) and see if the used one is
 > even worth considering:
 >
 > Case: Mid Tower AT w/ 250W P.S. (3 5.25", 4 3.5" bays)
 > Motherboard: Asus P55T2P4 512 KB cache Baby AT 430 HX Socket 7
 > (3 PCI, 3 ISA)
 > CPU: Intel Pentium 133MHz, 3.3V Standard
 > Memory: 64 MB EDO RAM Simms
 > Monitor: 14" Hyundai HCM-423E Super VGA or
 > Sony Trinitron Multiscan 15sf (1280 x 1024;
 > free from neighborhood cleanup,
 > but doesn't display the color red)
 > Hard Drive: 8.4 GB Caviar Western Digital (IDE)
 > 2.1 GB Caviar Western Digital (IDE)
 > 850 MB Caviar Western Digital (IDE)
 > CD-ROM: 12X Pioneer DR-444 Internal (IDE)
 > Video Card: ATI All-in-Wonder 4MB EDO Dram 64-bit (PCI)
 > SCSI Card (Primary): Tekram DC-390F UW SCSI (PCI)
 > 40 MB/sec, flash bios, 15 devices max
 > 50-pin SCSI-2 internal
 > 68-pin Wide SCSI internal
 > 68-pin Wide SCSI external
 > CD-R Drive: Plextor Plexwriter 4/12 PX-R412Ci 50-pin Internal (SCSI)
 > Sound Card: Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE64 PnP Value Edition (ISA)
 > USB Adapter: OpTi 82C861 PCI to USB (PCI)
 > Modem: Newcom 33.6k (NCI1001) Internal (ISA)
 > SCSI Card (Secondary, for scanner): DTC-3181L 25-pin PnP (ISA)
 > Scanner: Mustek ScanMagic 1200LS 600 x 1200 36-bit (SCSI)
 > Portable Storage: Iomega Zip Drive 100MB (Parallel Port)
 > Printer: Lexmark 1100 (Parallel Port)
 > Floppy Drive: 1.44MB Mitsumi
 > Keyboard: PC Concepts Enhanced 101 Style.
 > Mouse: Mouse Systems PC Point Pro 3-button
 > Surge Protector: Memorex Power Center
 > UPS: Back-UPS 200 by APC
 >
 >
 >
BOTH are great systems for Linux! <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://knopper.net/knoppix" target="_blank">http://knopper.net/knoppix</a> for 85
versions! My six PIII 550's each run about equal in processing
through-put to a 1.3 Mhz Duron running XP Pro, due to the bloat of the
Microsoft kernel, (Linux Kernel is ~28Mb, Microsoft is ~124Mb!) and all
the security programs necessary for any Microsoft products. If you want
FAST internet, run Mozilla FireFox included in the Knoppix!

SCSI is DEFINETLY an added bonus in the hard drives, and worth an added
price, and will SCREAM! In Linux, if you swapped some of the parts over
to the PIII 500Mhz system from the 133 Mhz system! AND/OR, you should
ALSO, switch the 133Mhz system over to Linux to get some genuine speed
out of it!

I run several 24/7/365 Systems of 400Mhz to 550 Mhz, alongside my three
AMD 1.3Mhz Durons, 1.4 Mhz Athlon, one of each on Microsoft products,
and the Linux is virus free, stable, FASTER, and friendlier! The
Microsoft environments have trouble doing two things at a time (blue
screens, slowdowns in program openings)! Most have 256 to 384 Mb of
RAM, AGP video, all have sound, CD burners.

I do also run some 486 to 266 Mhz systems, as IPCOP firewall routers,
and web servers, in Linux, they can't be cracked without some MAJOR work
involved... and there are no virus, w0rms, few vulnerablities (usually
patched within a few HOURS of discovery!), so the script kiddies move on
down to easier pickings...like anything un-protected, in the Microsloth
line...

I attend the computer shows, and see these 400 Mhz to 733Mhz systems,
all the time, for $29 to $79, depending upon whether it is a name brand,
or a generic built box, and the RAM, Hard Drive size and brand, and if
it has a CD burner. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://marketproshows.com" target="_blank">http://marketproshows.com</a>

We get APC UPS 350VA, new, with full warranty for $15 to $29, and really
can't recommend anything smaller...

You can compare prices, at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://pricewatch.com" target="_blank">http://pricewatch.com</a> though many vendors
will have to charge for shipping, which is an unfortunate added cost
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Roger M wrote:

 >
 > I'd offer him six dollars for it but only if he will deliver it *and* buy
 > your lunch. I'm getting ready to throw away a Compaq P2 550 with a 18 gig hdd
 > and 384mb of memory. I paid $2K for it when it was new and it was the fastest
 > thing going then. I recently built four AMD XP 2500+ machines all with 512mb
 > memory and 40 gig hdds and WinXP for less than it than that. The Compaq works
 > perfect and I'm going to set it in my parking lot, fill it and cover it with
 > gas and burn it up. It should be fun.
 >
 >
 >
 > Roger
 >
If/when you burn up a PC, you really NEED to wear goggles, quilted
fire/explosion suit, and a RESPIRATOR, because the caps can blow out,
and it releases UP to 8 pounds of cadmium, 8 pounds of LEAD, and some
other rather vile and poisonous toxins that have LONG TERM fatal effects
upon YOUR body, if you are within 50 to 100 feet of the thing!!!

1 cup of gas is about a quarter stick of dynamite in the initial
explosive force, MORE so if enclosed in any casing!

Filling up a computer case with gas makes a really lethal BOMB!!! and
the shrapnel will be very fine, and, very painful! If you get ANY
injury, you WILL need a tetanus shot, and possibly, some very expensive
and painful reconstructive surgery!

Also, Here in Orange County, Florida, any fire is quickly reported, and
the LOCAL EPA is out very quickly to write a hefty fine!!! They have
lots of inspectors, a reward system...

I run that class of system at speeds equal to my 1.3 Duron systems,
simply by getting Knoppix <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://distrowatch.com" target="_blank">http://distrowatch.com</a> installed, in about 25
minutes!!! Then, I use them to serve, to burn, and for network
intrusion testing and detection! I also like the games adn apps. there
are over 900 on the CDrom, and 114,680 MORE, for a free, 15 minute
download (on cable broadband).

Local charities, like the MakeA Wish Foundation runs their own internal
LINUX COMPUTER install and network to manage all their resources, saving
them MILLION$ in licensing, hardware, down-time... AND, your DONATION is
TAX DEDUCTABLE!!!


So, choose wisely, grasshopper! I will be watching Yahoo News, in the
'Oddly Enough' column, for the news of your trauma!!!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Patrick wrote:

 > Roger M wrote:
 >
  > >
  > > I'd offer him six dollars for it but only if he will deliver it *and* buy
  > > your lunch. I'm getting ready to throw away a Compaq P2 550 with a 18 gig hdd
  > > and 384mb of memory. I paid $2K for it when it was new and it was the fastest
  > > thing going then. I recently built four AMD XP 2500+ machines all with 512mb
  > > memory and 40 gig hdds and WinXP for less than it than that. The Compaq works
  > > perfect and I'm going to set it in my parking lot, fill it and cover it with
  > > gas and burn it up. It should be fun.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > Roger
  > >
 > If/when you burn up a PC, you really NEED to wear goggles, quilted
 > fire/explosion suit, and a RESPIRATOR, because the caps can blow out,
 > and it releases UP to 8 pounds of cadmium, 8 pounds of LEAD, and some
 > other rather vile and poisonous toxins that have LONG TERM fatal effects
 > upon YOUR body, if you are within 50 to 100 feet of the thing!!!
 >
 > 1 cup of gas is about a quarter stick of dynamite in the initial
 > explosive force, MORE so if enclosed in any casing!
 >
 > Filling up a computer case with gas makes a really lethal BOMB!!! and
 > the shrapnel will be very fine, and, very painful! If you get ANY
 > injury, you WILL need a tetanus shot, and possibly, some very expensive
 > and painful reconstructive surgery!
 >
 > Also, Here in Orange County, Florida, any fire is quickly reported, and
 > the LOCAL EPA is out very quickly to write a hefty fine!!! They have
 > lots of inspectors, a reward system...
 >
 > I run that class of system at speeds equal to my 1.3 Duron systems,
 > simply by getting Knoppix <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://distrowatch.com" target="_blank">http://distrowatch.com</a> installed, in about 25
 > minutes!!! Then, I use them to serve, to burn, and for network
 > intrusion testing and detection! I also like the games adn apps. there
 > are over 900 on the CDrom, and 114,680 MORE, for a free, 15 minute
 > download (on cable broadband).
 >
 > Local charities, like the MakeA Wish Foundation runs their own internal
 > LINUX COMPUTER install and network to manage all their resources, saving
 > them MILLION$ in licensing, hardware, down-time... AND, your DONATION is
 > TAX DEDUCTABLE!!!
 >
 > So, choose wisely, grasshopper! I will be watching Yahoo News, in the
 > 'Oddly Enough' column, for the news of your trauma!!!

Well I guess the toxicity of the unit will keep me from burning it. I've been
destroying stuff my whole life and have no fear of it exploding. It's all a matter
of managing the rate of the burn through air management and venting of the
explosive gasses. I'd like to show you my Dixie cup trick. An explosive mixture of
oxygen and acetylene in a Dixie cup sounds about like a stick of Dynamite.

I have a 100 ton press so I guess I'll see exactly how small a complete Compaq
computer can be made.




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"Roger M" <rmauck DeleteThis @shentel.net> wrote in message
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 >
 >
 > Patrick wrote:
 >
  > > Roger M wrote:
  > >
   > > >
   > > > I'd offer him six dollars for it but only if he will deliver it *and*
buy
   > > > your lunch. I'm getting ready to throw away a Compaq P2 550 with a 18
gig hdd
   > > > and 384mb of memory. I paid $2K for it when it was new and it was the
fastest
   > > > thing going then. I recently built four AMD XP 2500+ machines all with
512mb
   > > > memory and 40 gig hdds and WinXP for less than it than that. The
Compaq works
   > > > perfect and I'm going to set it in my parking lot, fill it and cover
it with
   > > > gas and burn it up. It should be fun.
   > > >
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > Roger
   > > >
  > > If/when you burn up a PC, you really NEED to wear goggles, quilted
  > > fire/explosion suit, and a RESPIRATOR, because the caps can blow out,
  > > and it releases UP to 8 pounds of cadmium, 8 pounds of LEAD, and some
  > > other rather vile and poisonous toxins that have LONG TERM fatal effects
  > > upon YOUR body, if you are within 50 to 100 feet of the thing!!!
  > >
  > > 1 cup of gas is about a quarter stick of dynamite in the initial
  > > explosive force, MORE so if enclosed in any casing!
  > >
  > > Filling up a computer case with gas makes a really lethal BOMB!!! and
  > > the shrapnel will be very fine, and, very painful! If you get ANY
  > > injury, you WILL need a tetanus shot, and possibly, some very expensive
  > > and painful reconstructive surgery!
  > >
  > > Also, Here in Orange County, Florida, any fire is quickly reported, and
  > > the LOCAL EPA is out very quickly to write a hefty fine!!! They have
  > > lots of inspectors, a reward system...
  > >
  > > I run that class of system at speeds equal to my 1.3 Duron systems,
  > > simply by getting Knoppix <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://distrowatch.com" target="_blank">http://distrowatch.com</a> installed, in about 25
  > > minutes!!! Then, I use them to serve, to burn, and for network
  > > intrusion testing and detection! I also like the games adn apps. there
  > > are over 900 on the CDrom, and 114,680 MORE, for a free, 15 minute
  > > download (on cable broadband).
  > >
  > > Local charities, like the MakeA Wish Foundation runs their own internal
  > > LINUX COMPUTER install and network to manage all their resources, saving
  > > them MILLION$ in licensing, hardware, down-time... AND, your DONATION is
  > > TAX DEDUCTABLE!!!
  > >
  > > So, choose wisely, grasshopper! I will be watching Yahoo News, in the
  > > 'Oddly Enough' column, for the news of your trauma!!!
 >
 > Well I guess the toxicity of the unit will keep me from burning it. I've
been
 > destroying stuff my whole life and have no fear of it exploding. It's all
a matter
 > of managing the rate of the burn through air management and venting of the
 > explosive gasses. I'd like to show you my Dixie cup trick. An explosive
mixture of
 > oxygen and acetylene in a Dixie cup sounds about like a stick of Dynamite.
 >
 > I have a 100 ton press so I guess I'll see exactly how small a complete
Compaq
 > computer can be made.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Roger
 >
If anything like a nickel size under 300 ton comes out as round as a quarter
but you can shave with it.

Larry<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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 > Filling up a computer case with gas >makes a really lethal BOMB!!!

Here's the burning of 2 NeXTcube cases. I wonder how much the cases would be
worth in 2004. Magnesium does burn well though.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.simson.net/photos/hacks/cubefire.html" target="_blank">http://www.simson.net/photos/hacks/cubefire.html</a>

Michael<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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 > I'd like to show you my Dixie cup trick. >An explosive mixture of
 >oxygen and acetylene in a Dixie cup >sounds about like a stick of Dynamite.

One of my favorites was nitrogen triiodide (clear ammonia + iodine crystals).
It's a high explosive with absolutely no practical use. Detonates on contact
and each tiny crystal sounds like a shotgun blast.

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"jealous xmp" <jealousxmp.RemoveThis@aol.commonplace> wrote in message
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  > > I'd like to show you my Dixie cup trick. >An explosive mixture
of
  > >oxygen and acetylene in a Dixie cup >sounds about like a stick of
Dynamite.
 >
 > One of my favorites was nitrogen triiodide (clear ammonia + iodine
crystals).
 > It's a high explosive with absolutely no practical use. Detonates
on contact
 > and each tiny crystal sounds like a shotgun blast.
 >
 > Michael

We used to make up the same stuff "wet" in small amounts and wait
for "appropriate opportunism". ("we" being a bunch of co-operating
practical jokers in High School)

The best one was the day we had our studyhall monitor teacher snooze
off with his feet on the desk. We snuck up and swabbed the bottom
of both shoes with it.

It dried; bell rang; "Lefty" Wigmore woke up . Our mix wasn't that
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