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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:43 am
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:35 am
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What sort of PSU (make/model and rated max power) is in the machine? I
strongly suspect its not a chipset specific problem but more likely
something else wrong with the system. I've had an ATI TV Wonder Tuner
working fine with an Intel 850 Chipset board in the past - not an AIW X800
XT though. Such a combination would be VERY demanding on power (especially
at the when the tuner is initialised/used - this could explain the freezing
at just that point).

Paul

"Rocker" <Rocker.DeleteThis@RockHer.com> wrote in message
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 > I've been having a major problem getting the TV Tuner on an AIW
 > X800 XT to work correctly on my system. The card installs fine and is
 > stable but the TV tuner simply will not work. When I start up the TV
 > Initialization wizard, I can get as far as the "Scan for channels"
 > button but when I press it the system completely freezes, requiring a
 > reboot.
 > As a test, I tried the card in a friend's computer and the tuner
 > worked fine. His system is almost identical to mine except his
 > motherboard uses the Intel 865 chipset whereas my system uses the
 > Intel 850 chipset.
 > My system is completely up to date. I've got the latest BIOS for
 > my ASUS motherboard and I'm using the latest Intel chipset drivers.
 > The system is a P4, 3.06GHz with Hyper-Threading and 1 gig of RAM.
 > I'm using Catalyst 5.3, MMC 9.06, and DirectX 9.0c. I've tried
 > uninstalling the ATI drivers and reinstalling them again to no avail.
 > I'm convinced that the problem is with the Intel 850 chipset. Anybody
 > out there have an AIW X800 XT with a working TV Tuner and an Intel 850
 > chipset and if so, how'd ya do it? Thanks.
 >
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:32 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:35 pm
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"Rocker" <Rocker RemoveThis @RockHer.com> wrote in message
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 > On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:51:46 +0100, "Paul Murphy"
 > <p_murphynothanks RemoveThis @tospamhotmail.com> wrote:
 >
  >>What sort of PSU (make/model and rated max power) is in the machine? I
  >>strongly suspect its not a chipset specific problem but more likely
  >>something else wrong with the system. I've had an ATI TV Wonder Tuner
  >>working fine with an Intel 850 Chipset board in the past - not an AIW X800
  >>XT though. Such a combination would be VERY demanding on power (especially
  >>at the when the tuner is initialised/used - this could explain the
  >>freezing
  >>at just that point).
  >>
  >>Paul
 >
 > Hi, thanks for the reply. My power supply is an Enermax 550W which
 > is higher than what ATI recommends for the AIW X800 XT (they recommend
 > 300W) so I don't think that's the problem. My previous card was an
 > AIW 9700 Pro and the TV tuner worked fine on that with the Intel 850
 > chipset. But the AIW X800 XT locks up my system everytime I attempt
 > to use the tuner.
 > Rocker

OK thanks for that - I agree that the PSU should be sufficient. How did you
replace the AIW 9700 Pro with your current card? If you haven't already done
so, you'll need to uninstall all the ATI drivers/software, reboot and
reinstall. This is because even though they use the same drivers and
software, the installations will pick up the different features of each
card. Failing that, there's a possibility that remnants of the old
installation may remain and a fresh install on a clean HDD may be in order.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:41 am
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:35 am
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"Rocker" <Rocker.RemoveThis@RockHer.com> wrote in message
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 > On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 22:45:52 +0100, "Paul Murphy"
 > <p_murphynothanks.RemoveThis@tospamhotmail.com> wrote:
 >
  >>"Rocker" <Rocker.RemoveThis@RockHer.com> wrote in message
  >>news:oo4351tkl7cji4bh6035m77g3r0k5o61oi@4ax.com...
   >>> On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:51:46 +0100, "Paul Murphy"
   >>> <p_murphynothanks.RemoveThis@tospamhotmail.com> wrote:
   >>>
   >>>>What sort of PSU (make/model and rated max power) is in the machine? I
   >>>>strongly suspect its not a chipset specific problem but more likely
   >>>>something else wrong with the system. I've had an ATI TV Wonder Tuner
   >>>>working fine with an Intel 850 Chipset board in the past - not an AIW
   >>>>X800
   >>>>XT though. Such a combination would be VERY demanding on power
   >>>>(especially
   >>>>at the when the tuner is initialised/used - this could explain the
   >>>>freezing
   >>>>at just that point).
   >>>>
   >>>>Paul
   >>>
   >>> Hi, thanks for the reply. My power supply is an Enermax 550W which
   >>> is higher than what ATI recommends for the AIW X800 XT (they recommend
   >>> 300W) so I don't think that's the problem. My previous card was an
   >>> AIW 9700 Pro and the TV tuner worked fine on that with the Intel 850
   >>> chipset. But the AIW X800 XT locks up my system everytime I attempt
   >>> to use the tuner.
   >>> Rocker
  >>
  >>OK thanks for that - I agree that the PSU should be sufficient. How did
  >>you
  >>replace the AIW 9700 Pro with your current card? If you haven't already
  >>done
  >>so, you'll need to uninstall all the ATI drivers/software, reboot and
  >>reinstall. This is because even though they use the same drivers and
  >>software, the installations will pick up the different features of each
  >>card. Failing that, there's a possibility that remnants of the old
  >>installation may remain and a fresh install on a clean HDD may be in
  >>order.
  >>
  >>Paul
  >>
 >
 > The first thing I did was to thoroughly uninstall all of the ATI
 > drivers and software related to the 9700 Pro. I used ATI's removal
 > utility in conjunction with my usual removal routine which involves
 > cleaning out the remaining ATI related files and registry entries.
 > I've done this many times (everytime I upgrade drivers) and I've never
 > once had a problem so I'm confident that I removed everything ATI
 > related before I put the X800 XT into my system. I also made sure to
 > upgrade my Intel chipset drivers too, prior to installing the X800 XT.
 > Besides the TV tuner not working, I also noticed that in the
 > Advanced Smartgart Properties dialog, that my AGP Write is turned off.
 > If I turn it back on, it will get turned off again on the next reboot.
 > I'm not sure if this is related to the tuner problem but it probably
 > is because I know that ideally, the AGP Write should be on. I also
 > know that having this off is usually due to an outdated chipset driver
 > but as I said, I did install the latest one from Intel. I've even
 > tried installing 2 later beta versions but nothing seems to fix this
 > problem.
 > Rocker

Although the ATI uninstaller is claimed to remove remaining ATI related
files and registry entries I'd still want to give the machine a completely
fresh start off a formatted disk before deciding the card was faulty or
incompatible. Just because ATIs uninstaller has worked for you with previous
uninstalls, there's no guarantee that it did this time or, just as
importantly, that something else with the current installation isn't to
blame. There are some ATI related entries in the registry that are there as
part of windows and are supposed to be there - if *everything* ATI is
removed, that's not going to take the machine back to a fresh install state.
If for whatever reason you don't want to format your drive and start fresh,
you may have another HDD that you could temporarily use to install XP on and
test it out.

Although tedious, reinstalls on a freshly formatted HDD are often the
simplest way to sort out software issues. Given the card tests fine on
another machine I'd say that's your best bet.

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