AMD Barton 2500+ - How Hot is too Hot???

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 20:47:23 +0000, Linux Man wrote:

 > I'm running my AMD Barton 2500+ at 3200+ speeds (200x11) - rock solid in my
 > NF7-S Ver. 2 motherboard. Prime95 will run indefinitely without errors. My
 > memory is 2-512Mb sticks of Kingston HyperX PC3500 (KHX3500K2/1G) running
 > dual channel at 400 Mhz FSB at 8-3-3-2 speeds. I've had to up the juice
 > into the cpu to 1.8 volts and my ram to 2.8 volts. Under full load using
 > Prime95, my cpu temps stay about 60 degrees C. I'm using aircooling. Is
 > this too hot?

Depends on ambient/case temps, but if it's the stock cooler, then I'd
replace it. A cheap $8 cooler will outperform the stock cooler.

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"Linux Man" wrote
 > I'm running my AMD Barton 2500+ at 3200+ speeds (200x11) - rock solid in
my
 > NF7-S Ver. 2 motherboard. Prime95 will run indefinitely without errors.
My
 > memory is 2-512Mb sticks of Kingston HyperX PC3500 (KHX3500K2/1G) running
 > dual channel at 400 Mhz FSB at 8-3-3-2 speeds. I've had to up the juice
 > into the cpu to 1.8 volts and my ram to 2.8 volts. Under full load using
 > Prime95, my cpu temps stay about 60 degrees C. I'm using aircooling. Is
 > this too hot?


Hi,

60°c is the *absolute* max I would like to see on a Barton running 2.2GHz.
Although it can handle up to 75°c I think, its always better to keep this
things as cool as possible, they just work better. So while not getting to
panicky about your current temps, I'm sure you could get them down 10°c at
least.

First thing, what HSF are you using?

Secondly it sounds like you have a high *ambient* case temp. Every degree
that you can reduce from your case temp will be reduced from your CPU temps
also. Just by taking the door off my case both the Ambient and CPU temps
drop by 6°c, so obviously I need to re-work my case Air-flow as I prefer to
have the case door on (sealed). The max temp I have seen on my AMD machine
is 57°c Load, and that was during running Prime95 for 2 days with the case
sealed and the central heating on in my flat.

My Barton needed 1.175v to run @2.2GHz, yours is 1.8vCore! (ouch) makes me
wonder at all these people who can do this at default vCore of 1.65v. Also
why have you got your vDimm set to 2.8volts? My Pc3500 runs the same
timings as yours and is running 2.6volts? (Maybe turn your vDimm down?)
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Linux Man" <eatme.RemoveThis@root.net> wrote in message
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 > I'm running my AMD Barton 2500+ at 3200+ speeds (200x11) - rock solid in
my
 > NF7-S Ver. 2 motherboard. Prime95 will run indefinitely without errors.
My
 > memory is 2-512Mb sticks of Kingston HyperX PC3500 (KHX3500K2/1G) running
 > dual channel at 400 Mhz FSB at 8-3-3-2 speeds. I've had to up the juice
 > into the cpu to 1.8 volts and my ram to 2.8 volts. Under full load using
 > Prime95, my cpu temps stay about 60 degrees C. I'm using aircooling. Is
 > this too hot?
 >
 >
 >

What is the size of the power supply your running to overclock to that? I
just updated to this board and I have a 350 watt power supply. Seems to run
just fine but for overclocking I know it is not enough. I must be at the
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I'm running an Antec 480watt power supply. As suggested in many forums, I
removed the HSF and sanded it with 1000 grit sandpaper. I applied Arctic
Silver 5 to the sanded area and wiped off the excess to fill the
imperfections. Then, I reapplied it on my CPU and remounted the HSF. Now,
I'm getting temps in the upper 40s. I'm amazed that made so much
difference.

"Delfs" <Dhaven.DeleteThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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 > Linux Man" <eatme.DeleteThis@root.net> wrote in message
 > news:vBdTb.31782$9p5.30661@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
  > > I'm running my AMD Barton 2500+ at 3200+ speeds (200x11) - rock solid in
 > my
  > > NF7-S Ver. 2 motherboard. Prime95 will run indefinitely without errors.
 > My
  > > memory is 2-512Mb sticks of Kingston HyperX PC3500 (KHX3500K2/1G)
running
  > > dual channel at 400 Mhz FSB at 8-3-3-2 speeds. I've had to up the juice
  > > into the cpu to 1.8 volts and my ram to 2.8 volts. Under full load
using
  > > Prime95, my cpu temps stay about 60 degrees C. I'm using aircooling.
Is
  > > this too hot?
  > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 > What is the size of the power supply your running to overclock to that? I
 > just updated to this board and I have a 350 watt power supply. Seems to
run
 > just fine but for overclocking I know it is not enough. I must be at the
 > absolute max for overclocking.
 >
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Wow, that's a big temp drop. Could someone please elaborate on what
needs to be done when sanding, etc. ie the procedure of what needs to
be done to do this. Also, could someone please explain why doing this
would make such a difference?

Thanks!

- Andy Gray



Linux Man wrote:

 > I'm running an Antec 480watt power supply. As suggested in many forums, I
 > removed the HSF and sanded it with 1000 grit sandpaper. I applied Arctic
 > Silver 5 to the sanded area and wiped off the excess to fill the
 > imperfections. Then, I reapplied it on my CPU and remounted the HSF. Now,
 > I'm getting temps in the upper 40s. I'm amazed that made so much
 > difference.
 >
 > "Delfs" <Dhaven.RemoveThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
 > news:zcAUb.40405$fH2.7092@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
 >
  >>Linux Man" <eatme.RemoveThis@root.net> wrote in message
  >>news:vBdTb.31782$9p5.30661@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
  >>
   >>>I'm running my AMD Barton 2500+ at 3200+ speeds (200x11) - rock solid in
  >>
  >>my
  >>
   >>>NF7-S Ver. 2 motherboard. Prime95 will run indefinitely without errors.
  >>
  >>My
  >>
   >>>memory is 2-512Mb sticks of Kingston HyperX PC3500 (KHX3500K2/1G)
 >
 > running
 >
   >>>dual channel at 400 Mhz FSB at 8-3-3-2 speeds. I've had to up the juice
   >>>into the cpu to 1.8 volts and my ram to 2.8 volts. Under full load
 >
 > using
 >
   >>>Prime95, my cpu temps stay about 60 degrees C. I'm using aircooling.
 >
 > Is
 >
   >>>this too hot?
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
  >>
  >>What is the size of the power supply your running to overclock to that? I
  >>just updated to this board and I have a 350 watt power supply. Seems to
 >
 > run
 >
  >>just fine but for overclocking I know it is not enough. I must be at the
  >>absolute max for overclocking.
  >>
  >>
 >
 >
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Smoothing the surfaces will not help this much by itself. Something
else must have occurred.

Forrest

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On Sun, 08 Feb 2004 19:23:17 +1000, Andrew Gray <No RemoveThis @way.com> wrote:

 >Wow, that's a big temp drop. Could someone please elaborate on what
 >needs to be done when sanding, etc. ie the procedure of what needs to
 >be done to do this. Also, could someone please explain why doing this
 >would make such a difference?
 >
 >Thanks!
 >
 >- Andy Gray
 >
 >
 >
 >Linux Man wrote:
 >
  >> I'm running an Antec 480watt power supply. As suggested in many forums, I
  >> removed the HSF and sanded it with 1000 grit sandpaper. I applied Arctic
  >> Silver 5 to the sanded area and wiped off the excess to fill the
  >> imperfections. Then, I reapplied it on my CPU and remounted the HSF. Now,
  >> I'm getting temps in the upper 40s. I'm amazed that made so much
  >> difference.
  >>
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