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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:55 pm
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For one "occasional" reason or another(I won't get into details, but
we'll say that performance was not up to par...), I was prompted to
perform some memory testing on my " fa$t ram in the above mentioned
"p4p800e-deluxe"

In june I purchased some crucial *balistic pc3200 (2-2-2-6 @2.8v)
4sticks @256mb for a total of 1 gb, just to give me some extra
overhead when and if I decide to heat up my northwood 2.8 @800fsb.
Benckmark gains were not that *steller and the occasional error or
other problem would arise.

Test results from "memtest" on a clean boot would vary from none to
many errors reported. The results were inconsistant, but the errors
were there. Tests were performed at a minimum of 2-3 hrs at 2-2-2-6 /
2.8v and at spd / auto voltage overnight.

Tests results from "memtest86" were similar, ranging from one error
overnight to 1500+ in the span of less than one hour. Very
inconsistant and sporadic.

I broke down the pairs and ran one pair without incident. The second
pair produced a single error in a 3-4hr run. Testing individual sticks
from this pair produced no errors. Tests were run 2hrs+ at 2-2-2-6 /
2.8v and then at spd / auto voltage overnight.

I have a retail enermax 350w psu that I've been using for less than a
year and I'm running stock crucial pc3200 (3-3-3-Cool 2x512 mb as I type
this. I'm gonna run this pair overnight, but so far a 1hour run with
memtest86 produced no errors.

Other points of concerning the balistic modules and this board:
-with all ram slots full, spd / auto sets as 2.5-2-2-8, where as cpu-z
reads spd as 2-2-2-8 and its running at 2.5-2-2-8!
-I can set the voltage at 2.65v, 2.75v, or 2.85v and run the memory at
any latency (spd or manual 2-2-2-6) and the computer keeps running.
Most errors are transparent, noticeable only by the responsivness of
any given task. Occastional windows will generate an error report and
this is probably appilcation specific.

So I'm assuming the memory hub on this board is very flaky or it
cannot handle the balistic timmings very well. If it is the latter, I
can live with it, but if it is the former, then how far can I take
this?

I'm gonna throw the balistic pairs in my son's intel board to see what
will happen. Otherwise I appreciate any additional feedback!
Regards,

ñíñjà¤têç

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:55 pm
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"ñíñjà¤têç" wrote:
>
> For one "occasional" reason or another(I won't get into details, but
> we'll say that performance was not up to par...), I was prompted to
> perform some memory testing on my " fa$t ram in the above mentioned
> "p4p800e-deluxe"
>
> In june I purchased some crucial *balistic pc3200 (2-2-2-6 @2.8v)
> 4sticks @256mb for a total of 1 gb, just to give me some extra
> overhead when and if I decide to heat up my northwood 2.8 @800fsb.
> Benckmark gains were not that *steller and the occasional error or
> other problem would arise.
>
> Test results from "memtest" on a clean boot would vary from none to
> many errors reported. The results were inconsistant, but the errors
> were there. Tests were performed at a minimum of 2-3 hrs at 2-2-2-6 /
> 2.8v and at spd / auto voltage overnight.
>
> Tests results from "memtest86" were similar, ranging from one error
> overnight to 1500+ in the span of less than one hour. Very
> inconsistant and sporadic.
>
> I broke down the pairs and ran one pair without incident. The second
> pair produced a single error in a 3-4hr run. Testing individual sticks
> from this pair produced no errors. Tests were run 2hrs+ at 2-2-2-6 /
> 2.8v and then at spd / auto voltage overnight.
>
> I have a retail enermax 350w psu that I've been using for less than a
> year and I'm running stock crucial pc3200 (3-3-3-Cool 2x512 mb as I type
> this. I'm gonna run this pair overnight, but so far a 1hour run with
> memtest86 produced no errors.
>
> Other points of concerning the balistic modules and this board:
> -with all ram slots full, spd / auto sets as 2.5-2-2-8, where as cpu-z
> reads spd as 2-2-2-8 and its running at 2.5-2-2-8!
> -I can set the voltage at 2.65v, 2.75v, or 2.85v and run the memory at
> any latency (spd or manual 2-2-2-6) and the computer keeps running.
> Most errors are transparent, noticeable only by the responsivness of
> any given task. Occastional windows will generate an error report and
> this is probably appilcation specific.
>
> So I'm assuming the memory hub on this board is very flaky or it
> cannot handle the balistic timmings very well. If it is the latter, I
> can live with it, but if it is the former, then how far can I take
> this?
>
> I'm gonna throw the balistic pairs in my son's intel board to see what
> will happen. Otherwise I appreciate any additional feedback!
> Regards,
>
> ñíñjà¤têç
>
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:55 pm
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Why ? Are you running this board with low latency OCZ memory ? I've
always supported Crucial and so far there has been no reason to
deflect my loyalty.

As an update, the *Balistic memory is going on 6hrs(memtste86) on the
Intel board (865perl) with pat enabled (by default), with not an
error! All settings are auto and it's running at 2-2-2-7. However, I
must also add that the chip is a 533mhz northwood so that means the
memory is running at 266mhz or pc2100. Maybe the chips are miss
labelled pc3200? Nawwww, can't be...I'll see if I can change the
timmigs.

A 5 hr test with memtest86 on the p4p800e-deluxe produced no errors as
well... with the bottom grade crucial modules out of the intel rig. So
it seems some parts cannot run together and in fact there is truth to
mfg's authorized dual channel ddr vendor's lists...

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On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 19:33:01 GMT, Gordon Scott
<gordsmail.TakeThisOut@NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote:

>"ñíñjà¤têç" wrote:
>>
>> For one "occasional" reason or another(I won't get into details, but
>> we'll say that performance was not up to par...), I was prompted to
>> perform some memory testing on my " fa$t ram in the above mentioned
>> "p4p800e-deluxe"
>>
>> In june I purchased some crucial *balistic pc3200 (2-2-2-6 @2.8v)
>> 4sticks @256mb for a total of 1 gb, just to give me some extra
>> overhead when and if I decide to heat up my northwood 2.8 @800fsb.
>> Benckmark gains were not that *steller and the occasional error or
>> other problem would arise.
>>
>> Test results from "memtest" on a clean boot would vary from none to
>> many errors reported. The results were inconsistant, but the errors
>> were there. Tests were performed at a minimum of 2-3 hrs at 2-2-2-6 /
>> 2.8v and at spd / auto voltage overnight.
>>
>> Tests results from "memtest86" were similar, ranging from one error
>> overnight to 1500+ in the span of less than one hour. Very
>> inconsistant and sporadic.
>>
>> I broke down the pairs and ran one pair without incident. The second
>> pair produced a single error in a 3-4hr run. Testing individual sticks
>> from this pair produced no errors. Tests were run 2hrs+ at 2-2-2-6 /
>> 2.8v and then at spd / auto voltage overnight.
>>
>> I have a retail enermax 350w psu that I've been using for less than a
>> year and I'm running stock crucial pc3200 (3-3-3-Cool 2x512 mb as I type
>> this. I'm gonna run this pair overnight, but so far a 1hour run with
>> memtest86 produced no errors.
>>
>> Other points of concerning the balistic modules and this board:
>> -with all ram slots full, spd / auto sets as 2.5-2-2-8, where as cpu-z
>> reads spd as 2-2-2-8 and its running at 2.5-2-2-8!
>> -I can set the voltage at 2.65v, 2.75v, or 2.85v and run the memory at
>> any latency (spd or manual 2-2-2-6) and the computer keeps running.
>> Most errors are transparent, noticeable only by the responsivness of
>> any given task. Occastional windows will generate an error report and
>> this is probably appilcation specific.
>>
>> So I'm assuming the memory hub on this board is very flaky or it
>> cannot handle the balistic timmings very well. If it is the latter, I
>> can live with it, but if it is the former, then how far can I take
>> this?
>>
>> I'm gonna throw the balistic pairs in my son's intel board to see what
>> will happen. Otherwise I appreciate any additional feedback!
>> Regards,
>>
>> ñíñjà¤têç
>>
>> ---END---PGP---SIGNATURE---
>
>stick with OCZ ram
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:55 pm
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In article <jbsph1domgnr2m8p2bv4g3jt34sdbgufv4.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>, Fakk2 wrote:

> Why ? Are you running this board with low latency OCZ memory ? I've
> always supported Crucial and so far there has been no reason to
> deflect my loyalty.
>
> As an update, the *Balistic memory is going on 6hrs(memtste86) on the
> Intel board (865perl) with pat enabled (by default), with not an
> error! All settings are auto and it's running at 2-2-2-7. However, I
> must also add that the chip is a 533mhz northwood so that means the
> memory is running at 266mhz or pc2100. Maybe the chips are miss
> labelled pc3200? Nawwww, can't be...I'll see if I can change the
> timmigs.
>
> A 5 hr test with memtest86 on the p4p800e-deluxe produced no errors as
> well... with the bottom grade crucial modules out of the intel rig. So
> it seems some parts cannot run together and in fact there is truth to
> mfg's authorized dual channel ddr vendor's lists...
>
> ñíñjà¤têç

I've run 4x512MB PC3200 2-2-2 Ballistix on my P4C800-E with no
problems (zero errors). It could be there is a problem with your
motherboard, such as a wobbly Vdimm or termination voltage regulator.
I don't know whether Asus RMA repair, would be able to detect and
repair a problem like that. There is always a chance, if you RMA
the board, they'll return it with "no fault found". When a board
is operating flaky, there is no guarantee they'll be able to
detect the problem. (It really needs to go through the factory
test procedure.)

Have you tried Prime95 Torture Test ? (mersenne.org)
I'd be interested in what you find while running Prime95.

Paul
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 12:55 am
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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 02:18:47 GMT, nospam.TakeThisOut@needed.com (Paul) wrote:

>In article <jbsph1domgnr2m8p2bv4g3jt34sdbgufv4.TakeThisOut@4ax.com>, Fakk2 wrote:
>
>> Why ? Are you running this board with low latency OCZ memory ? I've
>> always supported Crucial and so far there has been no reason to
>> deflect my loyalty.
>>
>> As an update, the *Balistic memory is going on 6hrs(memtste86) on the
>> Intel board (865perl) with pat enabled (by default), with not an
>> error! All settings are auto and it's running at 2-2-2-7. However, I
>> must also add that the chip is a 533mhz northwood so that means the
>> memory is running at 266mhz or pc2100. Maybe the chips are miss
>> labelled pc3200? Nawwww, can't be...I'll see if I can change the
>> timmigs.
>>
>> A 5 hr test with memtest86 on the p4p800e-deluxe produced no errors as
>> well... with the bottom grade crucial modules out of the intel rig. So
>> it seems some parts cannot run together and in fact there is truth to
>> mfg's authorized dual channel ddr vendor's lists...
>>
>> ñíñjà¤têç
>
>I've run 4x512MB PC3200 2-2-2 Ballistix on my P4C800-E with no
>problems (zero errors). It could be there is a problem with your
>motherboard, such as a wobbly Vdimm or termination voltage regulator.
>I don't know whether Asus RMA repair, would be able to detect and
>repair a problem like that. There is always a chance, if you RMA
>the board, they'll return it with "no fault found". When a board
>is operating flaky, there is no guarantee they'll be able to
>detect the problem. (It really needs to go through the factory
>test procedure.)
>
>Have you tried Prime95 Torture Test ? (mersenne.org)
>I'd be interested in what you find while running Prime95.
>
> Paul

As time allows, I'll try that out (prime95). As for the RMA, this was
actually a replacement for an RMA'd p4p800d...and I certainly agree to
the flaky parts idea. I'll try this memory for a bit and see what
prime95 turns up.

Oh, I was mistaken in my second post, the *Balistic memory is in fact
running at 332mhz (pc2700 with pat @ 2-2-2-7). Intela auto settings
seem to work quite well and at least the intel board knows good memory
when it's there! Also, eveytime I check Asus probe or AI booster, all
my voltages are right there...

I just can't believe how much I'm enjoying using my comp again, it's
that noticeable...
Regards,

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 11:55 am
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Paul:

As I mentioned previously, no problems here since swithcing to the
generic crucial memory modules (3-3-3-Cool. But I did notice some extra
settings in the bios which I would ask your opinion on:

-dram frequency now shows more options, ie: 266mhz ---> 533mhz,thats
up by at least 1...(533mhz)
-DDR reference voltage now shows 2.55v --->2.85v, thats up by
1...(2.55v)
-AGP VDDQ now shows 1.5v ---> 1.8v, that is also up by 1...(1.8v)

So simply changing the memory to the Balistic module has this effect
in my bios. Why ? Simply through the spd? Or can the bios/board
determine the max amperage?

Also, my Antec SurePower-SL350 (not enermax) has these specs:
+5v - 35a max/1.5 min
+12v - 16a max/.8 min
+3.3v - 28a max/.5 min
-5v - .5a max/0
-12v - .8a max/0
+5sb - 2 max/0
(+5v,+3.3v,+12v = 330w max)
(+5v,+3.3v = 230w max)

The P4P800e-deluxe has the lan active and the promise raid controler,
in addition I have: (all retail products...)

-ATI X850XT agp8x (no issue at crisis event)
-Audigy 2ZS
-1 ata hdd 30gb maxtor fdb (primary/single)
-2 ata hdd 30gb each maxtor fdb (promise-raid0)
-plextor dvdrw and liteon cdrw (secondary/master,slave)
-2 - 3pin zalman 80m fans (mobo plugs)
-2 - 4pin generic 80m w/color led
-usb is active and working, no peripherals plugged in at crisis event.

I'm thinking that after installing the 4 dimms of Balistic, some of my
power rail(s) may not be adaquet. Otherwise why else would the generic
dimms run without fault? I have 2 more generic dimms to put in for a
total of 4, which I will test tonight. I checked out that prime95
link, but I couldn't find any reference to torture test..?
Regards,

ñíñjà¤têç

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On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 02:18:47 GMT, nospam.DeleteThis@needed.com (Paul) wrote:

>In article <jbsph1domgnr2m8p2bv4g3jt34sdbgufv4.DeleteThis@4ax.com>, Fakk2 wrote:
>
>> Why ? Are you running this board with low latency OCZ memory ? I've
>> always supported Crucial and so far there has been no reason to
>> deflect my loyalty.
>>
>> As an update, the *Balistic memory is going on 6hrs(memtste86) on the
>> Intel board (865perl) with pat enabled (by default), with not an
>> error! All settings are auto and it's running at 2-2-2-7. However, I
>> must also add that the chip is a 533mhz northwood so that means the
>> memory is running at 266mhz or pc2100. Maybe the chips are miss
>> labelled pc3200? Nawwww, can't be...I'll see if I can change the
>> timmigs.
>>
>> A 5 hr test with memtest86 on the p4p800e-deluxe produced no errors as
>> well... with the bottom grade crucial modules out of the intel rig. So
>> it seems some parts cannot run together and in fact there is truth to
>> mfg's authorized dual channel ddr vendor's lists...
>>
>> ñíñjà¤têç
>
>I've run 4x512MB PC3200 2-2-2 Ballistix on my P4C800-E with no
>problems (zero errors). It could be there is a problem with your
>motherboard, such as a wobbly Vdimm or termination voltage regulator.
>I don't know whether Asus RMA repair, would be able to detect and
>repair a problem like that. There is always a chance, if you RMA
>the board, they'll return it with "no fault found". When a board
>is operating flaky, there is no guarantee they'll be able to
>detect the problem. (It really needs to go through the factory
>test procedure.)
>
>Have you tried Prime95 Torture Test ? (mersenne.org)
>I'd be interested in what you find while running Prime95.
>
> Paul
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:55 pm
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The Balistic memory has been getting problematic on the intel board
running at DDR333 (533fsb cpu). This is upsetting, it must be
something with the dimms and the power. The symptoms are the same as
it seems to start, run fine, then just gets worse. I'll have to
contact crucial now as I'm pretty much out of tests...
Sad

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:55 am
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In article <7c67i1lbjp8qpi68a9rbl8uep0gvkq9kcs DeleteThis @4ax.com>, Fakk2 wrote:

> The Balistic memory has been getting problematic on the intel board
> running at DDR333 (533fsb cpu). This is upsetting, it must be
> something with the dimms and the power. The symptoms are the same as
> it seems to start, run fine, then just gets worse. I'll have to
> contact crucial now as I'm pretty much out of tests...
> Sad
>
> ñíñjà¤têç
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Yup. Return them and get what you paid for.

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