Adding Netgear MR814v2 to wireless network

Steve thanks for the reply,
....in the installation guide for step 1 it says I have to connect the MR814
router to the Cable Modem via ethernet cable, which as you rightly pointed
out I can do, and also connect an ethernet
cable between the local port on the router and the computer.
Neither of my PCs has an ethernet connector and I have been using wireless
cards in a peer-to-peer network for many months. I'm a bit lost as the guide
seems to assume I should have a wired network. I suppose I have to connect
my PC to the router somehow to set up the internet connection for the
router - the second step of the installation guide requires me to 'log into
the router' in order to access the setup wizard. (Note, my cable internet
access is fine when I go through the USB on my laptop direct to the
cablemodem)

Anyhow, I powered everything down then, plugged the router into the cable
modem via the ethernet cable, then brought it all back up - cablemodem,
computer then router.
I then tried to connect to the router via my browser by using
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://192.168.0.1" target="_blank">http://192.168.0.1</a> as instructed but as I expected, it couldn't find it.

Have I got the wrong product? Shouldn't I be able to connect to the router
with my MA401 cards? Maybe there's another step I'm missing - are my cards
somehow not recognising the wireless router? Should I not be using a
peer-to-peer configuration?

Any clues what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks, Bill

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <winograd.TakeThisOut@pobox.com> wrote in message

 > I installed an MR814 router for one of my clients recently, and I
 > assure you that the computers can connect to it using either their
 > wireless PCMCIA cards or an Ethernet cable. What did you see that
 > seems to say otherwise?
 >
 > It's the cable modem that can only connect to the router using an
 > Ethernet cable, and yours can do that.
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In article <cCcNa.9927$Hw.6868268@news2.news.adelphia.net>, "Bill
Bradford" <wsbradford DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
  >> I installed an MR814 router for one of my clients recently, and I
  >> assure you that the computers can connect to it using either their
  >> wireless PCMCIA cards or an Ethernet cable. What did you see that
  >> seems to say otherwise?
  >>
  >> It's the cable modem that can only connect to the router using an
  >> Ethernet cable, and yours can do that.
 >
 >Steve thanks for the reply,
 >...in the installation guide for step 1 it says I have to connect the MR814
 >router to the Cable Modem via ethernet cable, which as you rightly pointed
 >out I can do, and also connect an ethernet
 >cable between the local port on the router and the computer.
 >Neither of my PCs has an ethernet connector and I have been using wireless
 >cards in a peer-to-peer network for many months. I'm a bit lost as the guide
 >seems to assume I should have a wired network. I suppose I have to connect
 >my PC to the router somehow to set up the internet connection for the
 >router - the second step of the installation guide requires me to 'log into
 >the router' in order to access the setup wizard. (Note, my cable internet
 >access is fine when I go through the USB on my laptop direct to the
 >cablemodem)
 >
 >Anyhow, I powered everything down then, plugged the router into the cable
 >modem via the ethernet cable, then brought it all back up - cablemodem,
 >computer then router.
 >I then tried to connect to the router via my browser by using
 >http://192.168.0.1 as instructed but as I expected, it couldn't find it.
 >
 >Have I got the wrong product? Shouldn't I be able to connect to the router
 >with my MA401 cards? Maybe there's another step I'm missing - are my cards
 >somehow not recognising the wireless router? Should I not be using a
 >peer-to-peer configuration?
 >
 >Any clues what I'm doing wrong?
 >
 >Thanks, Bill

Hi, Bill. I'm sorry that the router is giving you such a hard time.
I assure you that you can set it up using a wireless connection, with
no need for a wired Ethernet connection. I did exactly that recently
with the MR814, MA401, and MA101.

I think that you've found the problem: a peer-to-peer (Ad-Hoc)
configuration is right for your old setup, but not for your new setup.
A network with a wireless router uses an access point (Infrastructure)
configuration, so you need to change that setting on the wireless
network adapters. Here are some other things to check:

1. Set the SSID to "Wireless" to match the router.

2. Disable WEP encryption, and don't enable it until everything is
working.

3. Configure the TCP/IP settings to obtain an IP address
automatically.

I can't find anything in the Netgear documentation that says that you
have to use wired Ethernet to set up the router. If you can, please
quote it in its entirety.

I'm looking at the Installation Guide on this web page:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/netgear1/MR814_QCard.pdf" target="_blank">ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/netgear1/MR814_QCard.pdf</a>

On page 8, which is in section 1 (Prepare to Install the Router), it
says:

Skip this step if you're using a wireless computer. Use the
Ethernet patch cable to connect the computer to one of the four
numbered Ethernet ports on the router."

The router's Reference Manual is available here:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/netgear1/MR814_RefGuide.pdf" target="_blank">ftp://downloads.netgear.com/files/netgear1/MR814_RefGuide.pdf</a>

On page 2-2, is says:

To install and run the Model MR814 router over your network, each
computer must have the following:

o An installed 802.11b-compliant wireless adapter

OR

o An Ethernet Network Interface Card (NIC).
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Steve, thanks so much.

The installation guide that came with my router made no mention of that.
Also the guide on the accompanying CD quotes:-
"For each computer that you want to connect to the router, you need:
o An available RJ-45 Ethernet port. The Ethernet port connector looks
similar to a modular telephone jack, but the Ethernet port is larger.
o A Category 5 Ethernet patch (straight-through) cable, which is included in
the box with the router.
o Microsoft Windows networking software installed. The TCP/IP protocol and
Client for Microsoft Networks can be verified by looking at the Network
Neighborhood (Windows 98/Me) or My Network Places (Windows 2000/XP)
properties. Gather connection information"

I have downloaded the guide that you were looking at and I think it's all
clear now.

Much appreciated!!

Bill
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Thanks Steve, that did the trick - once I changed the network type and SSID
it was fine. Both computers are now connected via the router just fine.
I really appreciate your help.
Any suggestion as to the best settings for WEP?

Bill

"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <winograd.DeleteThis@pobox.com> wrote in message
 > Hi, Bill. I'm sorry that the router is giving you such a hard time.
 > I assure you that you can set it up using a wireless connection, with
 > no need for a wired Ethernet connection. I did exactly that recently
 > with the MR814, MA401, and MA101.
 >
 > I think that you've found the problem: a peer-to-peer (Ad-Hoc)
 > configuration is right for your old setup, but not for your new setup.
 > A network with a wireless router uses an access point (Infrastructure)
 > configuration, so you need to change that setting on the wireless
 > network adapters. Here are some other things to check:
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In article <rJpNa.9996$Hw.7038850@news2.news.adelphia.net>, "Bill
Bradford" <wsbradford RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
  >> Hi, Bill. I'm sorry that the router is giving you such a hard time.
  >> I assure you that you can set it up using a wireless connection, with
  >> no need for a wired Ethernet connection. I did exactly that recently
  >> with the MR814, MA401, and MA101.
  >>
  >> I think that you've found the problem: a peer-to-peer (Ad-Hoc)
  >> configuration is right for your old setup, but not for your new setup.
  >> A network with a wireless router uses an access point (Infrastructure)
  >> configuration, so you need to change that setting on the wireless
  >> network adapters. Here are some other things to check:
 >
  >>1. Set the SSID to "Wireless" to match the router.
  >>
  >>2. Disable WEP encryption, and don't enable it until everything is
  >>working.
  >>
  >>3. Configure the TCP/IP settings to obtain an IP address
  >>automatically.
 >
 >Thanks Steve, that did the trick - once I changed the network type and SSID
 >it was fine. Both computers are now connected via the router just fine.
 >I really appreciate your help.
 >Any suggestion as to the best settings for WEP?
 >
 >Bill

You're welcome, Bill!

I'd go for the highest level (128-bit) of encryption that the hardware
offers. It's easiest to set up using a passphrase, which is a short
string of ordinary characters that generates a full hexadecimal
encryption key. You can also create your own hex encryption key using
26 characters in the ranges 0-9 or A-F.
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Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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