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Since: Jul 04, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:00 pm
Post subject: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card
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Hello Folks,
I am looking to upgrade to an AGP video card with the TV-out
connector. First off, I don't play games on the computer. So, I
don't need the fastest most powerful card out there. I would probably
be limited in that regard anyway, since my power supply is 250 volts.
My primary uses for the video card would be for on-line video
streaming. I frequent the "free tube" web site which let's you watch
live TV.. up to a fulll screen. So, it was my hope that wiith the
TV-out option, maybe I could finally ditch cable TV for free tube. 
So, the card should be able to handle streaming video well. In
addition, I use the computer for photo editing, etc. I may also use
the system for video editing at some point, unless I upgrade to a
faster system before that.
So, I'm basically looking for an improvement on what I already have
(SIS Mirage 2 integrated VIdeo with 128 MB shared memory) and which
has the TV out option.
Here are the Specs of my system:
AMD Athlon 63 3200+
1.5 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM
120 GB 7200 RPM Ultra DMA Hard drive
DVD+RW/CD-RW
CD-ROM
250 watt power supply
Thanks for any assistance you could give me!!
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Since: Jul 13, 2005
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:00 pm
Post subject: Re: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Chris" wrote in message
> Hello Folks,
>
> I am looking to upgrade to an AGP video card with the TV-out
> connector. First off, I don't play games on the computer. So, I
> don't need the fastest most powerful card out there. I would probably
> be limited in that regard anyway, since my power supply is 250 volts.
>
> My primary uses for the video card would be for on-line video
> streaming. I frequent the "free tube" web site which let's you watch
> live TV.. up to a fulll screen. So, it was my hope that wiith the
> TV-out option, maybe I could finally ditch cable TV for free tube.
> So, the card should be able to handle streaming video well. In
> addition, I use the computer for photo editing, etc. I may also use
> the system for video editing at some point, unless I upgrade to a
> faster system before that.
>
> So, I'm basically looking for an improvement on what I already have
> (SIS Mirage 2 integrated VIdeo with 128 MB shared memory) and which
> has the TV out option.
>
> Here are the Specs of my system:
>
> AMD Athlon 63 3200+
> 1.5 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM
> 120 GB 7200 RPM Ultra DMA Hard drive
> DVD+RW/CD-RW
> CD-ROM
> 250 watt power supply
I'm sure that's an Athlon 64, but never mind!
Sounds like you have no great demands on the video card other than a TV out
port. Games would require as much power as you can afford, but none of the
things you list require graphics power. Video/photo editing requires lots of
RAM and as fast a processor as you can afford and the 3200+ would manage
fine for now. Video streaming does not place any load on the graphisc card
either. Practically any AGP graphics card with 16MB or more on-board RAM
will be able to handle any 2d (windows work) going.
I don't think you need to spend more than about £5 and you could even look
on ebay ! Why not look for one with passive cooling (no fan) for silent
running? Check out item number 300125107334 on ebay for an example. I
searched for 'AGP 64MB', then chose 'buy-it-now' only and limited the price
to £20 and got a huge list. Search through the descriptions to check for
TV-out. Alternatively, pop into PC-world or a computer shop and don't be
over-sold something fancy! |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:00 pm
Post subject: Re: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> Alternatively, pop into PC-world or a computer shop and don't be over-sold
> something fancy!
I didn't intend to imply that PC-World isn't a computer shop. However, this
grammatical slip is a little too Freudian!
A "Freudian Slip" - when you say one thing, but mean your mother. >> Stay informed about: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:16:38 GMT, Chris
wrote:
>Hello Folks,
>
>I am looking to upgrade to an AGP video card with the TV-out
>connector. First off, I don't play games on the computer. So, I
>don't need the fastest most powerful card out there. I would probably
>be limited in that regard anyway, since my power supply is 250 volts.
>
>My primary uses for the video card would be for on-line video
>streaming. I frequent the "free tube" web site which let's you watch
>live TV.. up to a fulll screen. So, it was my hope that wiith the
>TV-out option, maybe I could finally ditch cable TV for free tube.
>So, the card should be able to handle streaming video well. In
>addition, I use the computer for photo editing, etc. I may also use
>the system for video editing at some point, unless I upgrade to a
>faster system before that.
>
>So, I'm basically looking for an improvement on what I already have
>(SIS Mirage 2 integrated VIdeo with 128 MB shared memory) and which
>has the TV out option.
>
>Here are the Specs of my system:
>
>AMD Athlon 63 3200+
>1.5 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM
>120 GB 7200 RPM Ultra DMA Hard drive
>DVD+RW/CD-RW
>CD-ROM
>250 watt power supply
What kind of "improvement" are you looking for over the
video you already had? As GT mentioned, there's nothing
particularly demanding about TV-Out, nor your described
tasks, so we'd need to know where the current video is
falling short. Your present PSU could indeed be a
limitation, if you were just itching to replace something
that might be a good area to focus on. >> Stay informed about: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:02 am
Post subject: Re: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:16:12 -0400, kony wrote:
>On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:16:38 GMT, Chris
> wrote:
>
>>Hello Folks,
>>
>>I am looking to upgrade to an AGP video card with the TV-out
>>connector. First off, I don't play games on the computer. So, I
>>don't need the fastest most powerful card out there. I would probably
>>be limited in that regard anyway, since my power supply is 250 volts.
>>
>>My primary uses for the video card would be for on-line video
>>streaming. I frequent the "free tube" web site which let's you watch
>>live TV.. up to a fulll screen. So, it was my hope that wiith the
>>TV-out option, maybe I could finally ditch cable TV for free tube.
>>So, the card should be able to handle streaming video well. In
>>addition, I use the computer for photo editing, etc. I may also use
>>the system for video editing at some point, unless I upgrade to a
>>faster system before that.
>>
>>So, I'm basically looking for an improvement on what I already have
>>(SIS Mirage 2 integrated VIdeo with 128 MB shared memory) and which
>>has the TV out option.
>>
>>Here are the Specs of my system:
>>
>>AMD Athlon 63 3200+
>>1.5 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM
>>120 GB 7200 RPM Ultra DMA Hard drive
>>DVD+RW/CD-RW
>>CD-ROM
>>250 watt power supply
>
>
>What kind of "improvement" are you looking for over the
>video you already had? As GT mentioned, there's nothing
>particularly demanding about TV-Out, nor your described
>tasks, so we'd need to know where the current video is
>falling short. Your present PSU could indeed be a
>limitation, if you were just itching to replace something
>that might be a good area to focus on.
Well, at this point in time I don't have any real issues with the
current video card. I primarily was looking for the tv-out option.
However, if I was going to go through the trouble of upgrading to
begin with, I'd hope to make an improvement over what I already had.
I certainly wouldn't want degraded performance! Also, if I ever do
plan on purchasing a new computer, I may very well sell this one on
E-bay. So, upgrading to a "better" video card may add a bit more
value to the system. But, I also don't want to spend a lot of money
to do so. So, as GT mentioned, it would be great to find a cheap
decent video card on E-bay that would do the job and not cost and arm
and a leg. >> Stay informed about: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:47 am
Post subject: Re: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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>>>Hello Folks,
>>>
>>>I am looking to upgrade to an AGP video card with the TV-out
>>>connector. First off, I don't play games on the computer. So, I
>>>don't need the fastest most powerful card out there. I would probably
>>>be limited in that regard anyway, since my power supply is 250 volts.
>>>
>>>My primary uses for the video card would be for on-line video
>>>streaming. I frequent the "free tube" web site which let's you watch
>>>live TV.. up to a fulll screen. So, it was my hope that wiith the
>>>TV-out option, maybe I could finally ditch cable TV for free tube.
>>>So, the card should be able to handle streaming video well. In
>>>addition, I use the computer for photo editing, etc. I may also use
>>>the system for video editing at some point, unless I upgrade to a
>>>faster system before that.
>>>
>>>So, I'm basically looking for an improvement on what I already have
>>>(SIS Mirage 2 integrated VIdeo with 128 MB shared memory) and which
>>>has the TV out option.
>>>
>>>Here are the Specs of my system:
>>>
>>>AMD Athlon 63 3200+
>>>1.5 GB PC3200 DDR SDRAM
>>>120 GB 7200 RPM Ultra DMA Hard drive
>>>DVD+RW/CD-RW
>>>CD-ROM
>>>250 watt power supply
>>
>>
>>What kind of "improvement" are you looking for over the
>>video you already had? As GT mentioned, there's nothing
>>particularly demanding about TV-Out, nor your described
>>tasks, so we'd need to know where the current video is
>>falling short. Your present PSU could indeed be a
>>limitation, if you were just itching to replace something
>>that might be a good area to focus on.
>
>
> Well, at this point in time I don't have any real issues with the
> current video card. I primarily was looking for the tv-out option.
> However, if I was going to go through the trouble of upgrading to
> begin with, I'd hope to make an improvement over what I already had.
> I certainly wouldn't want degraded performance! Also, if I ever do
> plan on purchasing a new computer, I may very well sell this one on
> E-bay. So, upgrading to a "better" video card may add a bit more
> value to the system. But, I also don't want to spend a lot of money
> to do so. So, as GT mentioned, it would be great to find a cheap
> decent video card on E-bay that would do the job and not cost and arm
> and a leg.
A repeat answer, but you are not going to improve performance of anything
you do by upgrading your graphics card, as you don't use any software that
uses 3d power. All you are going to gain is the TV-out, so I would focus on
minimal spend to achieve your requirement. I wouldn't bother buying with a
view to selling in the future, because any budget card you buy now will be
well below gaming spec when you come to sell in a few months. You could
spend £300 on a new PCI-x graphics card and whilst it will be more capable
than any £10 card, it will still be out of date in 6 months! >> Stay informed about: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:01 pm
Post subject: Re: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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>>>What kind of "improvement" are you looking for over the
>>>video you already had? As GT mentioned, there's nothing
>>>particularly demanding about TV-Out, nor your described
>>>tasks, so we'd need to know where the current video is
>>>falling short. Your present PSU could indeed be a
>>>limitation, if you were just itching to replace something
>>>that might be a good area to focus on.
>>
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>>Well, at this point in time I don't have any real issues with the
>>current video card. I primarily was looking for the tv-out option.
>
> I must have been confused about your prior post as something
> made me read it as saying your present card did have TV-Out
> but with the upgrade you also wanted TV-Out and some "other"
> benefit.
A subtle, but easy mistake. He said, "I'm basically looking for an
improvement on what I already have
[snip] and which has the TV out option". If you miss the 'and' after my
snip, you would arrive at your conclusion/confusion! >> Stay informed about: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:15 am
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:11:55 -0400, Chris
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>Man, I just received the Sapphire Radeon 9550SE card today and guess
>what... I can not for the life of me get the TV out to work properly.
>The image is all washed out, flickering up and down, and in black and
>white. Terrible. I used their include VGA to composite adapter and
>hooked to the composte in of my TV. I also played with the settings
>in ATI, but nothing works.
>
>What a drag. I put in a trouble ticket with ATI. Hopefully on of
>their skilled technicians will get back to me soon, otherwise this is
>going right back to Newegg.
>
>
>
Sorry to hear you're having bad luck. If this is a simple
inline pin adapter for the S-Video to Composite, you
probably need to find the right driver setting to change.
I'm not familiar with the Catalyst Control Center anymore
but would look in there first. >> Stay informed about: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 2:56 am
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"kony" wrote in message
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:11:55 -0400, Chris
> wrote:
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>>Man, I just received the Sapphire Radeon 9550SE card today and guess
>>what... I can not for the life of me get the TV out to work properly.
>>The image is all washed out, flickering up and down, and in black and
>>white. Terrible. I used their include VGA to composite adapter and
>>hooked to the composte in of my TV. I also played with the settings
>>in ATI, but nothing works.
What resolution? What TV? Have you tried SVideo? >> Stay informed about: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:42 pm
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Hello,
Well, I finally got it to work! After posting messages to the
Sapphire Help forum, I found that I needed to actually move a jumper
on the card itself. Apparently it was set to PAL format instead of
NTSC format. Once I did that, I also had to apply NTSC in Catalyst.
Once this was done, I got a nice clear picture of just my wallpaper.
To change that, I had to clone the monitor display to the Secondary
display, and that finally did the trick! This is great, I'm watching
Sky News on my TV while I'm typing here and the picture is just as
clear as cable! I'm impressed!
Chris
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:15:36 -0400, kony wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:11:55 -0400, Chris
> wrote:
>
>>Man, I just received the Sapphire Radeon 9550SE card today and guess
>>what... I can not for the life of me get the TV out to work properly.
>>The image is all washed out, flickering up and down, and in black and
>>white. Terrible. I used their include VGA to composite adapter and
>>hooked to the composte in of my TV. I also played with the settings
>>in ATI, but nothing works.
>>
>>What a drag. I put in a trouble ticket with ATI. Hopefully on of
>>their skilled technicians will get back to me soon, otherwise this is
>>going right back to Newegg.
>>
>>
>>
>
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>Sorry to hear you're having bad luck. If this is a simple
>inline pin adapter for the S-Video to Composite, you
>probably need to find the right driver setting to change.
>I'm not familiar with the Catalyst Control Center anymore
>but would look in there first. >> Stay informed about: Need Advice with upgrading to AGP Video Card |
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