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Erik Harris1

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:32 am
Post subject: Athlon XP-M 2600+ and Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe - no higher multipliers?
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Can someone clarify something for me? I was always under the impression that
the multiplier values valid for an Athlon CPU were built into the CPU, and
not into the motherboard.

However, I picked up an Athlon XP-M 2600+ from NewEgg, which is supposed to
run at 133x14 by default (or was it 133x14.5?). However, I can't get any of
the higher multipliers to work. They all work as their lower counterparts on
this CPU. I can get a 6X multiplier, but not a 14X multiplier, for example.

Anyone have any idea why this is? I plan on boosting the FSB and reducing
the multiplier (gingerly pushing it up, currently have it at 190x11, knowing
full well that it should be able to go quite a bit faster). But I'm still
curious about this.

Thanks

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:12 am
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Because of the different bridge configuration on mobile CPU's the multiplier
is not recognised properly on desktop boards.... they all get recognised a
6x. If you had a motherboard that supported 5th bit multiplier control you
would have manual access to the full range, however your board obviously
does not have this feature so for a CPU that is recognised with a multi 12.5
or below ,you only get access to multi's up to 12.5, for a CPU with default
multi higher than 12.5 you get access to the multi range 12.5 to 24x.
You can wire pins to make the default multi higher if you wish.

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 > Can someone clarify something for me? I was always under the impression
 > that
 > the multiplier values valid for an Athlon CPU were built into the CPU, and
 > not into the motherboard.
 >
 > However, I picked up an Athlon XP-M 2600+ from NewEgg, which is supposed
 > to
 > run at 133x14 by default (or was it 133x14.5?). However, I can't get any
 > of
 > the higher multipliers to work. They all work as their lower counterparts
 > on
 > this CPU. I can get a 6X multiplier, but not a 14X multiplier, for
 > example.
 >
 > Anyone have any idea why this is? I plan on boosting the FSB and reducing
 > the multiplier (gingerly pushing it up, currently have it at 190x11,
 > knowing
 > full well that it should be able to go quite a bit faster). But I'm still
 > curious about this.
 >
 > Thanks
 >
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:22 am
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 06:12:37 +0100, "BigBadger" <big_badger RemoveThis @NOSPAM.com>
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 >Because of the different bridge configuration on mobile CPU's the multiplier
 >is not recognised properly on desktop boards.... they all get recognised a
 >6x. If you had a motherboard that supported 5th bit multiplier control you
 >would have manual access to the full range, however your board obviously
 >does not have this feature so for a CPU that is recognised with a multi 12.5
 >or below ,you only get access to multi's up to 12.5, for a CPU with default
 >multi higher than 12.5 you get access to the multi range 12.5 to 24x.
 >You can wire pins to make the default multi higher if you wish.

Thanks for the explanation! No need to modify the CPU, I don't plan on using
any of the higher multipliers. I'd much rather use higher bus speeds. Smile

Another XP-M question - for those using the XP-M chips on desktop boards,
does 3DMark2003 recognize your chip as a Duron? Most software I've used
recognizes the XP-M as an XP-M, but 3DMark2003 tells me I've got a 2100MHz
Duron. Like with my last question, I'm not overly concerned, just curious.

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