Athlon XP 3000+ Barton 333 on a GA-7N400 Pro2 (rev2) = "Un..

Op Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:10:52 -0400 schreef "jpsga" <jpsga.RemoveThis@comcast.net>:

>
>"Hans Reese" <reese.RemoveThis@home.nl> wrote in message
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>> According to my BIOS, my CPU is "unknown"...
>>
>> EVEREST v2.20.405 gives me the following Quick Report on it:
>>
>> CPU Type Unknown, 2166 MHz (13 x 167)
>> CPU Alias Barton
>> CPU Stepping A2
>> Instruction Set x86, MMX, 3DNow!, SSE
>> L1 Code Cache 64 KB
>> L1 Data Cache 64 KB
>> L2 Cache 64 KB (On-Die, Full-Speed)
>>
>> This is almost what one would expect, except for the L2 Cache. This should
>> be 512, afaik...
>>
>> I have the latest BIOS, version FK.
>>
>> Any thoughts, anybody?
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Groeten,
>>
>> Hans
>
>It is interesting that the boot up screen reports 'unknown'.
>This computer reports the CPU and speed correctly.
>Also it reports a CPUID.
>A guess is that it uses the CPUID to name the CPU.
>
>Everest reports L2 at 512KB but does not report L2 cache correctly.
>
>I assume that, beside this annoyance, the board is running to your
>expectations.
>
>Jim

What is your BIOS version?

I tried every system-tool I could find (AIDA32, Sandra, Everest), but they
all agree: unknown CPU @ 2166, 64 MB L2 Cache, like the BIOS tells me on
boot-up.

What the BIOS doesn't tell me, however, is the CPUID: AIDA and Everest
tell me it is 000006A0h. Extended CPUID is 000007A0h.

Memory benchmarks in Everest report decent overall performance; reading
2406 MB/s and writing 915 MB/s with 512 MB Dual Channel PC2700, so no
complaints there.

However...

When I benchmark the Cache/Memory performance with Sandra2005, the
performance-curve is comparable to a Celeron 2GHz 128L2. The largest
blocks that can be processed at a decent speed (>10GB/s) are 64Kb. 128Kb
blocks still get moved with 7 GB/s, but that's it. Bigger blocks won't
move much faster than 1 GB/s. This *does* indicate a 64KB L2 Cache.

No biggie, really, but my curiosity is getting the better of me...


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Groeten,

Hans
 >> Stay informed about: Athlon XP 3000+ Barton 333 on a GA-7N400 Pro2 (rev2) = "Un.. 

"Hans Reese" <reese.TakeThisOut@home.nl> wrote in message
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> Op Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:10:52 -0400 schreef "jpsga" <jpsga.TakeThisOut@comcast.net>:
>
>>
>>"Hans Reese" <reese.TakeThisOut@home.nl> wrote in message
>>news:lfvmg1plafejtbde28hhi593vnhf7hcppd@4ax.com...
>>> According to my BIOS, my CPU is "unknown"...
>>>
>>> EVEREST v2.20.405 gives me the following Quick Report on it:
>>>
>>> CPU Type Unknown, 2166 MHz (13 x 167)
>>> CPU Alias Barton
>>> CPU Stepping A2
>>> Instruction Set x86, MMX, 3DNow!, SSE
>>> L1 Code Cache 64 KB
>>> L1 Data Cache 64 KB
>>> L2 Cache 64 KB (On-Die, Full-Speed)
>>>
>>> This is almost what one would expect, except for the L2 Cache. This
>>> should
>>> be 512, afaik...
>>>
>>> I have the latest BIOS, version FK.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts, anybody?
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Groeten,
>>>
>>> Hans
>>
>>It is interesting that the boot up screen reports 'unknown'.
>>This computer reports the CPU and speed correctly.
>>Also it reports a CPUID.
>>A guess is that it uses the CPUID to name the CPU.
>>
>>Everest reports L2 at 512KB but does not report L2 cache correctly.
>>
>>I assume that, beside this annoyance, the board is running to your
>>expectations.
>>
>>Jim
>
> What is your BIOS version?
>
> I tried every system-tool I could find (AIDA32, Sandra, Everest), but they
> all agree: unknown CPU @ 2166, 64 MB L2 Cache, like the BIOS tells me on
> boot-up.
>
> What the BIOS doesn't tell me, however, is the CPUID: AIDA and Everest
> tell me it is 000006A0h. Extended CPUID is 000007A0h.
>
> Memory benchmarks in Everest report decent overall performance; reading
> 2406 MB/s and writing 915 MB/s with 512 MB Dual Channel PC2700, so no
> complaints there.
>
> However...
>
> When I benchmark the Cache/Memory performance with Sandra2005, the
> performance-curve is comparable to a Celeron 2GHz 128L2. The largest
> blocks that can be processed at a decent speed (>10GB/s) are 64Kb. 128Kb
> blocks still get moved with 7 GB/s, but that's it. Bigger blocks won't
> move much faster than 1 GB/s. This *does* indicate a 64KB L2 Cache.
>
> No biggie, really, but my curiosity is getting the better of me...
>
>
> ---
>
> Groeten,
>
> Hans

This machine uses BIOS FK

The CPU is 3200+ and the reported is the same as yours 06A0 and 07A0
Extended.

Memory Bench via Adia is Read=2674 Write =1089

As far as the Cache/Memory results are concerned ... I show about the same
results.
I believe we will live with that unless we go to 64bit machine.

Sanda correctly reports the L2 cash size.

Have you tried the use the other BIOS? Maybe it will find the correct CPU.

I have disabled Thermal Throttling. Had to F1 into Advanced Chip set
features.

Jim
 >> Stay informed about: Athlon XP 3000+ Barton 333 on a GA-7N400 Pro2 (rev2) = "Un.. 

Op Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:55:59 -0400 schreef "jpsga" <jpsga.DeleteThis@comcast.net>:

>If you can find another test you would like to try, like PCmark03, I'd be
>happy to compare findings.

Well, PCMark04 gives me a 3115 score. Does that tell you anything?


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Groeten,

Hans
 >> Stay informed about: Athlon XP 3000+ Barton 333 on a GA-7N400 Pro2 (rev2) = "Un.. 

"Hans Reese" <reese.RemoveThis@home.nl> wrote in message
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> Op Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:55:59 -0400 schreef "jpsga" <jpsga.RemoveThis@comcast.net>:
>
>>If you can find another test you would like to try, like PCmark03, I'd be
>>happy to compare findings.
>
> Well, PCMark04 gives me a 3115 score. Does that tell you anything?
>
>
> ---
>
> Groeten,
>
> Hans

Not bad, my slightly over-clocked 2800+ gets 3303. EasyTune reports that the
CPU speed is 2079.5MHz..

This is the free down loaded version of CPMark04 so I do not have CPU data
broken out.
Jim
Jim
 >> Stay informed about: Athlon XP 3000+ Barton 333 on a GA-7N400 Pro2 (rev2) = "Un.. 

Op Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:04:41 -0400 schreef "jpsga" <jpsga.TakeThisOut@comcast.net>:


>> Well, PCMark04 gives me a 3115 score. Does that tell you anything?
>>
>
>Not bad, my slightly over-clocked 2800+ gets 3303. EasyTune reports that the
>CPU speed is 2079.5MHz..

EasyTune4 reports a not-overclocked CPU speed of 2162.7 MHz. Not too bad,
I guess, but on the downside: even with a better cooler and a DIY airduct
it still reaches CPU temps of slightly over 62°C. I know Bartons produce
more heat than T'breds, but I'm not sure if this particular Barton
justifies this extra heat by performing so much better than the perfectly
healthy 2600+ it replaced. I don't have any benchmarks on that one, but at
least it never got over 56°C fully loaded.

As an aside, my brother produced a screenshot of CPUID identifying the CPU
as a regular Barton 3000+ with the correct L2 cache-size. So, it once
*was* running perfectly, and then, somehow, it managed to loose its ID and
most of its L2 cache. Is it possible that just one or more of the pins are
bent or broke, to cause this?

>This is the free down loaded version of CPMark04 so I do not have CPU data
>broken out

Same here...


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Groeten,

Hans
 >> Stay informed about: Athlon XP 3000+ Barton 333 on a GA-7N400 Pro2 (rev2) = "Un..