Audio codec problem?

Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> Yousuf Khan <bbbl67.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> writes:

>> Franc Zabkar wrote:
>>> You have posted a *software* question to *hardware* groups. As such it
>>> is off-topic and in violation of accepted Usenet practice. Even though
>>> you are a regular (major) contributor to c.s.i.p.h.c, that still
>>> doesn't entitle you to special privileges.
>>> - Franc Zabkar
>> This is the most appropriate place to ask these questions, period.

> Since it was crossposted to three different groups, that can't be true
> of all of them!

Two different groups.

Yousuf Khan

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On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:56:57 +0200, "The Lone Gunman"
<lone RemoveThis @invalid.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

>Franc Zabkar <fzabkar RemoveThis @iinternode.on.net> wrote:
>: On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:03:04 -0500, daytripper
>: <day_trippr RemoveThis @REMOVEyahoo.com> put finger to keyboard and
>: composed:
><snip>
>
>:: Settle down, Francis...
>:
>: <sigh>
>:
>: Franc is my full name. It is not an English name, therefore
>: there is no English derivative. As I find it hard to believe
>: that your remark was intended as a petty schoolyard taunt,
>: I'll just attribute it to your anglocentric ignorance
>: (although I know you are not of anglosaxon background).
>:
>: To put it in familiar terms, think of Franz as in Franz Liszt,
>: Franz Kafka, Franz Schubert. My name is pronounced the same,
>: at least in my country of origin.
>:
>: Here endeth the lesson.
>:
>
>That pretty much explains "the attitude." You're of Germanic decent?

Liszt was Hungarian, Kafka was Czech, Schubert was Austrian, and I'm
Slovenian. The only thing we have in common is that our countries were
once part of the Austro-Hungarian empire. My only connection to
Germany is via my parents and grandparents who spent WW2 in a
concentration camp as unwilling guests of Adolf. Despite this, none of
us bear any animosity toward Germans.

BTW, this is the *second* time that I have been taunted in this manner
in this group. The first time I let it go without comment. Obviously
that was a mistake.

>I have lot's of German friends...spend a lot of time there doing business.
>One thing I know of Germans: Their refusal to think "outside the box."
>They gotta live by a set of rules which simply can't be bent....seen it a
>million times. Your behavior is oh SO typical, Frank (even if you're not
>German, you're sure acting like one). Like I said before, lighten up a bit,
>dude!!
>
>TLG

Maybe you missed it, but the OP is the one with the "attitude". All I
said in my initial statement was "try a software group". Twice now the
OP has basically said "screw you, I'll post my OT tripe wherever I
want, whenever I want". Maybe he really doesn't grasp the difference
between chips and codecs, but I don't think he is that ignorant.

- Franc Zabkar
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Franc Zabkar <fzabkar.RemoveThis@iinternode.on.net> wrote:
: On Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:56:57 +0200, "The Lone Gunman"
: <lone.RemoveThis@invalid.net> put finger to keyboard and composed:

<snip for brevity>

: Maybe you missed it, but the OP is the one with the
: "attitude". All I said in my initial statement was "try a
: software group". Twice now the OP has basically said "screw
: you, I'll post my OT tripe wherever I want, whenever I want".
: Maybe he really doesn't grasp the difference between chips and
: codecs, but I don't think he is that ignorant.
:
: - Franc Zabkar

Ok Frank. I was being a little tongue-in-cheek with the "quit behaving like
a German" remark. But really, as I said before, with the number of posts in
this NG down to maybe one a day (or sometimes NONE), is it really such a big
deal that a software-related post is made? I mean, what gives? Sure,
Yousuf probably would get better replies in a s/w group, but I really think
this issue is "much ado about nothing." So for the last time, will you
**please** lighten up a bit?

/TLG (STILL looking out for all the .chips MIA's)
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The Lone Gunman wrote:
> Ok Frank. I was being a little tongue-in-cheek with the "quit behaving like
> a German" remark. But really, as I said before, with the number of posts in
> this NG down to maybe one a day (or sometimes NONE), is it really such a big
> deal that a software-related post is made? I mean, what gives? Sure,
> Yousuf probably would get better replies in a s/w group, but I really think
> this issue is "much ado about nothing." So for the last time, will you
> **please** lighten up a bit?


There are no more relevant newsgroups than the soundcard and chips
newsgroups. The Chips newsgroup being the one that's traditionally been
the home of debugging all kinds of PC systems problems, not just
hardware. Regardless, it was also relevant to hardware groups because it
was a sound card problem. What possible software newsgroups are relevant
to sound card problems? Besides adding too many newsgroups gets you
accused of over-crossposting.

Besides, Usenet is dying. There's hardly any postings about anything
anymore. And then you have people playing Netcop complaining about
cross-posting, bottom-quoting/top-posting, complaining about not doing
their own Google searches, etc. Some of it may be justified, but really
it all has the air of "fiddling inside a flammable Rome" quality to it.

More than half of this thread was about complaining about newsgroup
selections, very little about the actual technical problem asked. It's
not the only thread I've seen this problem in.

Yousuf Khan
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Yousuf Khan <bbbl67 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
: The Lone Gunman wrote:
:: Ok Frank. I was being a little tongue-in-cheek with the
:: "quit behaving like a German" remark. But really, as I said
:: before, with the number of posts in this NG down to maybe one
:: a day (or sometimes NONE), is it really such a big deal that
:: a software-related post is made? I mean, what gives? Sure,
:: Yousuf probably would get better replies in a s/w group, but
:: I really think this issue is "much ado about nothing." So
:: for the last time, will you **please** lighten up a bit?
:
:
: There are no more relevant newsgroups than the soundcard and
: chips newsgroups. The Chips newsgroup being the one that's
: traditionally been the home of debugging all kinds of PC
: systems problems, not just hardware. Regardless, it was also
: relevant to hardware groups because it was a sound card
: problem. What possible software newsgroups are relevant to
: sound card problems? Besides adding too many newsgroups gets
: you accused of over-crossposting.
:
: Besides, Usenet is dying. There's hardly any postings about
: anything anymore. And then you have people playing Netcop
: complaining about cross-posting, bottom-quoting/top-posting,
: complaining about not doing their own Google searches, etc.
: Some of it may be justified, but really it all has the air of
: "fiddling inside a flammable Rome" quality to it.
:
: More than half of this thread was about complaining about
: newsgroup selections, very little about the actual technical
: problem asked. It's not the only thread I've seen this problem
: in.
:

Ok, NOW I'm depressed........
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On a sunny day (Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:42:53 -0400) it happened Yousuf Khan
<bbbl67 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in <XO2dnfVGLdMTUJHb4p2dnA DeleteThis @giganews.com>:

>There are no more relevant newsgroups than the soundcard and chips
>newsgroups. The Chips newsgroup being the one that's traditionally been
>the home of debugging all kinds of PC systems problems, not just
>hardware. Regardless, it was also relevant to hardware groups because it
>was a sound card problem. What possible software newsgroups are relevant
>to sound card problems? Besides adding too many newsgroups gets you
>accused of over-crossposting.
>
>Besides, Usenet is dying.

I have thought this too at times.
It is not so however.
It is true that in some groups the noise is so high (sci.physics for example)
that you have to a a specialist to even find anything that makes sense.
In other groups 'everybody already knows everything', so they do not post
about it a lot.
Then there are the hopeless newsreaders, I mean the software required to
read the newsgroups.
10 years ago I wrote my own newsreader (NewsFleX), and it is capable of following
50 or more groups no problem.
If you had to do that with something like a Netscape I am not sure I could.
There is a lot of postings I could make in ..chips, that I do not make because
I know many people read the same forums as I do, so they likely already knew it....
OTOH there is much interesting info I get from Usenet if people actually _do_
post new things.

Usenet will only die when the big newsservers are no more..
Providers sometimes do not like the extra bandwidth.
The binary newsgroups I suppose, this server only does text, and you need to register.
Also there is only so much time I can spend on Usenet....
It still is a great communication medium, better then IRC in some ways,
as you can write when you like, and it will still be there for somebody
who logs in later.
I did not even know ...soundcard existed until now.
Well I just designed some soundcards in the eighties for the PC.
The modern ones... PCIe perhaps LOL, I really dunno about that.
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On Mar 30, 1:42 am, Yousuf Khan <bbb....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The Lone Gunman wrote:

> Besides, Usenet is dying. There's hardly any postings about anything
> anymore. And then you have people playing Netcop complaining about
> cross-posting, bottom-quoting/top-posting, complaining about not doing
> their own Google searches, etc. Some of it may be justified, but really
> it all has the air of "fiddling inside a flammable Rome" quality to it.

> More than half of this thread was about complaining about newsgroup
> selections, very little about the actual technical problem asked. It's
> not the only thread I've seen this problem in.

No, it's this newsgroup. Some of the other NGs actually still have
technical discussions. It's just the regulars in those NGs actually
have reasonable, unbiased views, and technical knowledge to back them
up.

DK
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On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:42:53 -0400, Yousuf Khan <bbbl67 DeleteThis @yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Besides, Usenet is dying. There's hardly any postings about anything
>anymore. And then you have people playing Netcop complaining about

I'd have to disagree, traffic in another newsgroup I follow is still
pretty high. It's unfortunately csiphc that's dwindling down

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"Yousuf Khan" <bbbl67 DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:WdSdnQzms6fH_Z7b4p2dnA@giganews.com...
> I've been experiencing some audio problems recently on one my systems. The
> problem only occurs on Windows video files (AVI, WMV, MPG, etc.), but not
> on Quicktime video files (MOV). I've tried several different media
> players, from the default Windows Media Player, to Media Player Classic,
> RealPlayer, Nero Showtime, and various other media players lying around
> that were packaged with various things.
>
> The symptoms are always the same. The video plays, but the audio doesn't
> after the first time. So for example, you can play any video file with its
> video & audio the first time after reboot, but when you try playing it a
> second time (or playing any other video file for that matter), the audio
> doesn't play anymore. Windows Media Player starts and exits saying,
> "You're running low on memory, quit other programs and try again",
> followed by the "Close" button. Yeah, right I have 1GB of RAM, and 3.5GB
> of swap! Media Player Classic just aborts completely. RealPlayer plays the
> video, but there's no sound. Other media players do the same sort of thing
> too.
>
> Now, I think it's an audio codec problem because Quicktime player plays
> its own files without problems, since it has its own native codecs
> built-in. Also audio files aren't affected if you play them through
> Winamp, which also has its own internal MP3 codec. But try to play the
> same MP3's through Windows Media Player, and no sound comes out, because
> it's using the default system codec.
>
> I'm not sure if this is related but the problems seem to have started
> after a recent Microsoft major patch update. I was thinking maybe the
> update to WMP 11 was causing it, so I uninstalled it and reverted back to
> WMP 10, but that didn't cure it. I've also updated the soundcard drivers
> (Hercules GameSurround Fortissimo III 7.1) to the latest available, but
> that didn't do anything. Windows XP SP2, of course.
>
> How would I go about debugging the codec? Changing default codecs, etc.?
>
> Yousuf Khan

Hmm two things to check would be. In the controll Panel open Sound and Audio
Devices Properties,
Select the Audio Codecs Properties , Tab Properties. At this window there
should be a list of codecs install
and the order they are selected in. Which is something like this order here
works for me.
Fraunhofer IIS MPEG Layer-3 Codec
Windows Media Audio Codec
IMA ADPCM Audio CODEC
Microsoft ADPCM Audio CODEC
Microsoft CCITT G.711 Audio CODEC
Microsoft GSM 6.10 Audio CODEC
DSP Group TrueSpeach(TM) Audio CODEC
msg723.acm
Sipro Lab Telecom Audio Codec
Indeo audio software
Microsoft PCM Converter
lhacm.acm

Ok, next the check the Media Controll Devices Properties Button, Properties
Tab. Here Select the
(MCI) Sound Properties button, Settings Button, Move this slider upto 8 from
the default of 4.
Also on the Sound and Audio Device Properties Window on the Audio Tab,
Advanced Button,
Prefromace Tab, Hardware acceleration: Full , Sample Rate coversion : Best.

Then theres the Media Player Classic 6.4.9.0 works good with FFDshow codec
pack installed.
ffdshow-rev780_20070115
and Lame MP3 ACM Codec
Works nicly on mine. with settings rigth in the Audio decoder configuration
part of FFDshow.
Which opens a window Select the Codecs as fallows
WMA 7 disabled,
WMA 8/9 disabled,
MP1,MP2 mp3lib,
MP3 mp3lib,
AC3 disabled,
DTS S/PDIF,
AAC libfaad2 = this setting is nice without having Apples software
installed,
Vorbis libavcodec,
AMR libavcodec,
LPCM disabled,
MS ADPCM disabled,
IMA ADPCM libavcodec,
Other ADPCM disabled,
mulaw/Alaw disabled,
MS GSM disabled,
FLAC disabled,
True Audio disabled,
QDM2 disabled,
AVIS disabled,
Uncompressed disabled..
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Yousuf Khan <bbbl67 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> writes:

> Besides, Usenet is dying.

Popularity is down due to web forum and blog competition, but it's not
clear that Usenet is dying.

> There's hardly any postings about anything anymore.

That depends upon the group. Some are more active than ever.

> And then you have people playing Netcop complaining about
> cross-posting, bottom-quoting/top-posting, complaining about not doing
> their own Google searches, etc.

Thank God that kind of stuff never happens in web forums. :rolleyes:

-Dave
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