BIOS doesn't find USB keyboard - who can help?

Thanks Martin.
There are no options in BIOS setup to configure USB keyboard support
for initial setup.
While POST I get the failure message. On another machine (with another
BIOS) the keyboard works.
I thougt the newest update of Phoenix should support such
functions..... but nothing happens....
Fisher


On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 15:22:42 -0700, Martin Shoemaker
<invalid_address RemoveThis @withheld.net> wrote:

>Does the BIOS support a USB keyboard for setup? On the last computer I
>built the USB keyboard would not work for initial setup, and I had to
>use a PS/2 keyboard to get the BIOS configured.
>
>Martin
>
>fisher wrote:
>> I have Tiger MP S22460 on the motherboard. All USB applications work
>> properly under w2k. But the BIOS gives an error message regarding the
>> USB keyboard while booting and the startup halts.
>> After flashing the BIOS the failure stays. No ideas.....
>> Somebody knows what could be the reason????
>> Many thanks in advance,
>> Fisher
>>
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In article <kr8hf2pe2jo0bvub24kto5udtahurn7aaq RemoveThis @4ax.com>,
fishing RemoveThis @dreamer.com (known to some as fisher) scribed...

> I have Tiger MP S22460 on the motherboard. All USB applications work
> properly under w2k. But the BIOS gives an error message regarding the
> USB keyboard while booting and the startup halts.
> After flashing the BIOS the failure stays. No ideas.....
> Somebody knows what could be the reason????

Not a clue here, but I do have an observation to make.

All Tyan motherboards (and most other non-Tyan boards) that I've
seen come with a perfectly usable PS/2 style keyboard port, a feature
that has stood the Test of Time extremely well, and functions equally
well. I've only seen ONE failure of such a port since I started messing
with PC's back in 1988, and that was easily fixed by replacing the 5V
fuse associated with it.

That being the case, this odd push for USB keyboards both
fascinates and confuses me. Why try to "fix" something that was never
broken to begin with? USB keyboards can't cost any less to make than one
with a PS/2 type interface. In fact, I would think they'd cost a little
more, as the USB interface is a little more difficult to implement.

With the above in mind: Why in the Multiverse is the computing
world so bloody obsessive about USB keyboards?!

Keep the peace(es).



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"Dr. Anton T. Squeegee" <SpammersBlow.RemoveThis@dev.null> wrote in message
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> In article <kr8hf2pe2jo0bvub24kto5udtahurn7aaq.RemoveThis@4ax.com>,
> fishing.RemoveThis@dreamer.com (known to some as fisher) scribed...
>
>> I have Tiger MP S22460 on the motherboard. All USB applications work
>> properly under w2k. But the BIOS gives an error message regarding the
>> USB keyboard while booting and the startup halts.
>> After flashing the BIOS the failure stays. No ideas.....
>> Somebody knows what could be the reason????
>
> Not a clue here, but I do have an observation to make.
>
> All Tyan motherboards (and most other non-Tyan boards) that I've
> seen come with a perfectly usable PS/2 style keyboard port, a feature
> that has stood the Test of Time extremely well, and functions equally
> well. I've only seen ONE failure of such a port since I started messing
> with PC's back in 1988, and that was easily fixed by replacing the 5V
> fuse associated with it.
>
> That being the case, this odd push for USB keyboards both
> fascinates and confuses me. Why try to "fix" something that was never
> broken to begin with? USB keyboards can't cost any less to make than one
> with a PS/2 type interface. In fact, I would think they'd cost a little
> more, as the USB interface is a little more difficult to implement.
>
> With the above in mind: Why in the Multiverse is the computing
> world so bloody obsessive about USB keyboards?!
>
> Keep the peace(es).
The one advantage the USB keyboard/mouse has over PS/2, is that you can
plug them in/out after the system has booted. Makes switching I/O devices
(either physically, or with an electronic switch), much easier.
There is no cost 'disadvantage', since the processor core needed to
actually scan the keyboard, is commonly available with USB included.
What I find more worrying, is the general reduction in quality of the
mechanisms themselves. I had a Cherry keyboard, that lasted over 15 years.
Replaced it with a modern unit, and have now worked my way through five
keyboards in four yearss. Have tried so far, Microsoft, HP, Logitek, and
Unicomp. My current unit is the Unicomp, and this has already outlived any
of the others. Now I type a _lot_, but no more than a good secretary would
manage, and consider this sort of failure rate appalling...

Best Wishes
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rogerspamignored RemoveThis @ttelmah.demon.co.uk (known to some as Roger Hamlett)
scribed...

> The one advantage the USB keyboard/mouse has over PS/2, is that you can
> plug them in/out after the system has booted. Makes switching I/O devices

Ahhhh... OK, but you can do the same exact thing if the PS/2-based
keyboard is tied to the system through a decent-quality electronic KVM
switch.

> What I find more worrying, is the general reduction in quality of the
> mechanisms themselves. I had a Cherry keyboard, that lasted over 15 years.

Oh, no arguments at all there! For my part, I've been using the
original IBM/Lexmark 'clickers' since I started computing, and I'll
still go out of my way to find them today. Every single 'modern'
keyboard I've tried, with the single exception of the industrial-grade
NEMA-sealed unit I have in my van, just doesn't cut it.

> Replaced it with a modern unit, and have now worked my way through five
> keyboards in four yearss. Have tried so far, Microsoft, HP, Logitek, and
> Unicomp. My current unit is the Unicomp, and this has already outlived any
> of the others. Now I type a _lot_, but no more than a good secretary would
> manage, and consider this sort of failure rate appalling...

The big reason I've stuck with the clickers is not just for the
feel and tactile/audible feedback (I have a very heavy touch): It's also
because of their durability. I bought the one I'm typing on right now
back in 1990, and it's still going strong sixteen years later.

I guess that metal base and the capacitance switches really were a
good idea.

Keep the peace(es).


--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR)
http://www.bluefeathertech.com -- kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t calm
"Salvadore Dali's computer has surreal ports..."
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