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drewrichardson

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:06 pm
Post subject: Biostar GeForce 6100 AM2 problems
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I purchased a Biostar GeForce 6100 AM2 (build in video, net and audio),
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ AM2 and a 1G DDR2 800 stick of Kingston RAM. When
I put the three components together and plugged my keyboard, monitor,
PC Speaker, and a IDE Hard Drive into it to check my BIOS settings
didn't work. My keyboard lights flash, the power light is on, and the
hard drive and fans spin, but my monitor doesn't turn on, and there is
no post beep (with or without ram installed) Unfortunately, I don't
have a PCI or E-PCI (The only sockets the board has) video card to try
another video source, but in order to enable it I likely need to get to
the BIOS anyway.
Initially I wondered if my power supply was too weak (it's only 300W),
so I tried booting it without the drives but the same thing still
happens. But this too has happened before. Sometimes you just have to
take everything apart and put it back together. It didn't work. I
checked all the jumper settings from the manual, and drained the bios,
but still nothing. In fact, it's now worse, because the keyboard
lights don't flash any more.
I think that there's something wrong with the motherboard, but before I
ship it back for a replacement, I wanted to make sure it's the
motherboard that's broken.

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kony

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:28 am
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On 16 Sep 2006 21:06:33 -0700, drewrichardson.DeleteThis@gmail.com
wrote:

>I purchased a Biostar GeForce 6100 AM2 (build in video, net and audio),
>AMD Athlon 64 3200+ AM2 and a 1G DDR2 800 stick of Kingston RAM. When
>I put the three components together and plugged my keyboard, monitor,
>PC Speaker, and a IDE Hard Drive into it to check my BIOS settings
>didn't work.

What do you mean?

A) It worked before you added something.
B) It worked before you changed bios settings.
C) It never worked in any way shape or form yet, it has
never posted once since you bought it.

I suggest you unplug the HDD, keyboard, speaker, and case
connectors. Have only CPU, 1 memory module, heatsink/fan,
and turn it on by shorting the PS-On pin to ground pin.


>My keyboard lights flash, the power light is on, and the
>hard drive and fans spin, but my monitor doesn't turn on, and there is
>no post beep (with or without ram installed) Unfortunately, I don't
>have a PCI or E-PCI (The only sockets the board has) video card to try
>another video source, but in order to enable it I likely need to get to
>the BIOS anyway.

Unplug AC. Pull out battery and check for a plastic
insulator. Check that the clear CMOS jumper is in the
correct position. Leave battery out for at least 10
minutes, then put it back in and restore AC power and turn
it on, as mentioned above in the bare minimal config.


>Initially I wondered if my power supply was too weak (it's only 300W),

Depends entirely on make and model, whether it's really
worth 300W and with healthy 12V rail.


>so I tried booting it without the drives ...

Drive_S_? You only mentioned one above.

>... but the same thing still
>happens. But this too has happened before. Sometimes you just have to
>take everything apart and put it back together. It didn't work. I
>checked all the jumper settings from the manual, and drained the bios,
>but still nothing. In fact, it's now worse, because the keyboard
>lights don't flash any more.

Don't leave the keyboard connected. Check the board for
5V/5VSB jumper for PS2 and USB, and put in the 5V, not 5VSB
position.

Are these parts reasonably expected working? I mean you
bought from a major retailer, these aren't from ebay or some
other questionable source?


>I think that there's something wrong with the motherboard, but before I
>ship it back for a replacement, I wanted to make sure it's the
>motherboard that's broken.

Had you determined that any of the other parts work
properly? Odds are it is the board, or PSU is insufficient
if not a modern name-brand 300W, but ultimately to be sure
you'd have to either get it working or start swapping parts
around with another good and compatible system.

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drewrichardson

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:13 am
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Kony, thanks for asking these questions to clear up my ambiguous post
Smile

kony wrote:
> Are these parts reasonably expected working? I mean you
> bought from a major retailer, these aren't from ebay or some
> other questionable source?

> A) It worked before you added something.
> B) It worked before you changed bios settings.
> C) It never worked in any way shape or form yet, it has
> never posted once since you bought it.

My motherboard, CPU and RAM are new components bought from newegg.com.
It never worked in any way shape or form yet, it has never posted once
since I received it two days ago.

> I suggest you unplug the HDD, keyboard, speaker, and case
> connectors. Have only CPU, 1 memory module, heatsink/fan,
> and turn it on by shorting the PS-On pin to ground pin.

Nope, same problem.

> Unplug AC. Pull out battery and check for a plastic
> insulator. Check that the clear CMOS jumper is in the
> correct position. Leave battery out for at least 10
> minutes, then put it back in and restore AC power and turn
> it on, as mentioned above in the bare minimal config.

Good idea, I only left the battery out for 10 seconds, but it didn't
work Sad.

> Depends entirely on make and model, whether it's really
> worth 300W and with healthy 12V rail.

I /hope/ that it's really 300W. Is there an easy way to tell? It
admitidly just a cheap Austin (never heard of them before) power
supply.
The power supply does have the 12V rail, and it has the 24 pin
connector as opposed to the original 20 pin ATX connector. The
motherboard has a place to plug both the 24 pin connector and the 12V
rail into.

> Don't leave the keyboard connected. Check the board for
> 5V/5VSB jumper for PS2 and USB, and put in the 5V, not 5VSB
> position.
>

I should specify that I have been using a PS2 keyboard. I don't have a
USB one. I don't see a jumper like the one you've described.

> Had you determined that any of the other parts work
> properly? Odds are it is the board, or PSU is insufficient
> if not a modern name-brand 300W, but ultimately to be sure
> you'd have to either get it working or start swapping parts
> around with another good and compatible system.

I wish I could test the components against what I already have, but I'm
upgrading from socket 939 to socket AM2, from DDR to DDR2, and from AGP
to E-PCI, so I can't test anything Sad.

Some further comments on my motherboard and RAM. According to the
documentation the motherboard supports up to 4G (1G in each slot) of
DDR2 800 2.0V. I have a single 1G Kingston DDR2 800 1.95V stick. The
motherboard also has an undocumented jumper labeled JDDRII_22V, which I
assume ups the RAM to 2.2V, though I shouldn't need it
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Rod Speed

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:28 pm
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drewrichardson.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> I purchased a Biostar GeForce 6100 AM2 (build in video, net and
> audio), AMD Athlon 64 3200+ AM2 and a 1G DDR2 800 stick of Kingston
> RAM. When I put the three components together and plugged my
> keyboard, monitor, PC Speaker, and a IDE Hard Drive into it to check
> my BIOS settings didn't work. My keyboard lights flash, the power
> light is on, and the hard drive and fans spin, but my monitor doesn't
> turn on, and there is no post beep (with or without ram installed)
> Unfortunately, I don't have a PCI or E-PCI (The only sockets the
> board has) video card to try another video source, but in order to
> enable it I likely need to get to the BIOS anyway.

> Initially I wondered if my power supply was too weak (it's only 300W),
> so I tried booting it without the drives but the same thing still
> happens. But this too has happened before. Sometimes you just have
> to take everything apart and put it back together. It didn't work. I
> checked all the jumper settings from the manual, and drained the bios,
> but still nothing. In fact, it's now worse, because the keyboard
> lights don't flash any more.

> I think that there's something wrong with the motherboard,
> but before I ship it back for a replacement, I wanted to
> make sure it's the motherboard that's broken.

There was one Gigabyte motherboard that produced
a result like that just because it didnt like the ram.

I'd certainly try different ram first if it was mine.
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kony

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:08 pm
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On 17 Sep 2006 08:13:25 -0700, drewrichardson.RemoveThis@gmail.com
wrote:


>I /hope/ that it's really 300W. Is there an easy way to tell? It
>admitidly just a cheap Austin (never heard of them before) power
>supply.
>The power supply does have the 12V rail, and it has the 24 pin
>connector as opposed to the original 20 pin ATX connector. The
>motherboard has a place to plug both the 24 pin connector and the 12V
>rail into.

You might use a multimeter to take voltage readings but it
could be it maintains voltage but doesn't bring the rails up
fast enough to post the system. It is likely to be a low
quality unit and it would be useful to try another known
viable PSU.


>
>> Don't leave the keyboard connected. Check the board for
>> 5V/5VSB jumper for PS2 and USB, and put in the 5V, not 5VSB
>> position.
>>
>
>I should specify that I have been using a PS2 keyboard. I don't have a
>USB one. I don't see a jumper like the one you've described.

Maybe there isn't one, it would probably be in the manual
and sometimes is called a "power on by" or some other
wording to denote the power to these ports.


>
>> Had you determined that any of the other parts work
>> properly? Odds are it is the board, or PSU is insufficient
>> if not a modern name-brand 300W, but ultimately to be sure
>> you'd have to either get it working or start swapping parts
>> around with another good and compatible system.
>
>I wish I could test the components against what I already have, but I'm
>upgrading from socket 939 to socket AM2, from DDR to DDR2, and from AGP
>to E-PCI, so I can't test anything Sad.
>
>Some further comments on my motherboard and RAM. According to the
>documentation the motherboard supports up to 4G (1G in each slot) of
>DDR2 800 2.0V. I have a single 1G Kingston DDR2 800 1.95V stick. The
>motherboard also has an undocumented jumper labeled JDDRII_22V, which I
>assume ups the RAM to 2.2V, though I shouldn't need it

I suppose you could always call Newegg and tell them you
think you need an RMA, confirm they'll give a refund.

Next, order same board and a new PSU. Receive them both,
find out which is needed to get system working and return
what you don't need (getting 2nd RMA for new PSU if it isn't
needed, and with two RMAs if you need to return the old
board and new PSU, you can combine them into same box to cut
shipping cost (providing it's labeled well with both RMA #).
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:20 am
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I know this is an old post but I have a thought - did you connect the
CPU power on the mobo? Not the 24 pin ATX power, but the 4 pin (12v)
ATX cable to power the CPU.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:18 pm
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lunaladi wrote:
> I know this is an old post but I have a thought - did you connect the
> CPU power on the mobo? Not the 24 pin ATX power, but the 4 pin (12v)
> ATX cable to power the CPU.

Yes, I did.

And for future reference, I replace the motherboard, and still had
similar problems, though the keyboard lights flash agian. Then I
replaced the CPU and everything works now Smile
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