Company of Heroe's and Opposing Fronts both have ALT-TAB B..

Never heard of such a thing, probably nonsense too.

I could imagine the processor's cache is emptied, filled with other stuff...
when alt-tabbing to windows.

Surely the processor cache will be re-filled with coh code.

It probably isn't even swapped out since it's running in the background.

Me thinks it's a timing issue.

Bye,
Skybuck.
 >> Stay informed about: Company of Heroe's and Opposing Fronts both have ALT-TAB B.. 

Oh well forget that thread.

Not much info in there.

I am seeing "stutter"

Once the "stutter" happens it can't be fixed by alt-tabbing.

Only restarting the game fixes it.

To me it seems like:

1. Threads keep running and aren't cleaned up properly.

(I could check this in task manager under threads... I'll do that
sometime... if "dangling" threads is causing this it will show up in an
increased ammount of threads running)

2. Timing problem.

Timing code in the game is not updated properly... however seems kind weird
since when returning to the game this should be solved me thinks or maybe
just bad coding or something.

3. Something else ?

Bye,
Skybuck.
 >> Stay informed about: Company of Heroe's and Opposing Fronts both have ALT-TAB B.. 

Hmm maybe you mean some other kind of cache.

Maybe graphics cache.

Gonna investigate that some more.

Here is link about somebody writing something about Company of Heroe's and
the
"alt-tab problem"

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?threadid=240317

Bye,
Skybuck.
 >> Stay informed about: Company of Heroe's and Opposing Fronts both have ALT-TAB B.. 

I have installed the lastest AMD Processor Driver.

AMD has not updated it's main website... but the driver is on another link.

I don't think that matters much because it's the same driver I think, just
installer is different... but who knows..

One thing I did do is:

I installed X2 Core Optimizer driver.

I am gonna play the game with it installed for a while.

The performance indicator in the game is now on all high.

Another dude said it solved problems for him as well..

So who knows.

I just hope my windows booting time doesnt get bad as it did back in the
past with this core optimizer driver

Bye,
Skybuck !
 >> Stay informed about: Company of Heroe's and Opposing Fronts both have ALT-TAB B.. 

You installed it before and complain about slow bootup times.
Then say the driver has not changed. Then you Install the same driver again
and hope it does not slow down your boot time.

So what's changed from the last time you Installed this driver ?

Now I know your a troll.

"Skybuck Flying" <spam.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:feu3jd$n84$1@news4.zwoll1.ov.home.nl...
>I have installed the lastest AMD Processor Driver.
>
> AMD has not updated it's main website... but the driver is on another
> link.
>
> I don't think that matters much because it's the same driver I think, just
> installer is different... but who knows..
>
> One thing I did do is:
>
> I installed X2 Core Optimizer driver.
>
> I am gonna play the game with it installed for a while.
>
> The performance indicator in the game is now on all high.
>
> Another dude said it solved problems for him as well..
>
> So who knows.
>
> I just hope my windows booting time doesnt get bad as it did back in the
> past with this core optimizer driver
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck !
>
 >> Stay informed about: Company of Heroe's and Opposing Fronts both have ALT-TAB B.. 

I am not certain if the core optimizer was the cause of it.

I think so, but I am not sure...

If the boot time becomes slow again then I am pretty sure.

For now I plan on playing some more COH so it's the possible price to pay.

If I am done with COH and boot times get worse I simply remove it again

No big deal !

If on the other hand boot time remains ok... then maybe other games will
benefit from it.

Maybe airborne... but I don't like to play another ww2 shooter... I am done
with that

Bye,
Skybuck =D
 >> Stay informed about: Company of Heroe's and Opposing Fronts both have ALT-TAB B.. 

Well that didn't last long.

Dual Core Optimizer probably caused the following system crash:


Microsoft (R) Windows Debugger Version 6.6.0007.5
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.


Loading Dump File [C:\WINDOWS\Minidump\Mini101607-01.dmp]
Mini Kernel Dump File: Only registers and stack trace are available

Symbol search path is:
SRV*c:\Tools\WinDbg\WebSymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
Executable search path is:
Windows Server 2003 Kernel Version 3790 (Service Pack 2) MP (2 procs) Free
x64
Product: WinNt, suite: TerminalServer SingleUserTS
Built by: 3790.srv03_sp2_gdr.070321-2337
Kernel base = 0xfffff800`01000000 PsLoadedModuleList = 0xfffff800`011d4140
Debug session time: Tue Oct 16 05:05:16.671 2007 (GMT+2)
System Uptime: 0 days 4:12:39.478
Loading Kernel Symbols
............................................................................................................................................
Loading User Symbols
Loading unloaded module list
...................................................
*******************************************************************************
*
*
* Bugcheck Analysis
*
*
*
*******************************************************************************

Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information.

BugCheck 4E, {2, 10c, 7ffff, 1}

Probably caused by : memory_corruption ( nt!MiUnlinkPageFromList+7e )

Followup: MachineOwner
---------

0: kd> !analyze -v
*******************************************************************************
*
*
* Bugcheck Analysis
*
*
*
*******************************************************************************

PFN_LIST_CORRUPT (4e)
Typically caused by drivers passing bad memory descriptor lists (ie: calling
MmUnlockPages twice with the same list, etc). If a kernel debugger is
available get the stack trace.
Arguments:
Arg1: 0000000000000002, A list entry was corrupt
Arg2: 000000000000010c, entry in list being removed
Arg3: 000000000007ffff, highest physical page number
Arg4: 0000000000000001, reference count of entry being removed

Debugging Details:
------------------


CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1

DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT

BUGCHECK_STR: 0x4E

PROCESS_NAME: System

CURRENT_IRQL: 2

LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from fffff800010ab7ca to fffff8000102e890

STACK_TEXT:
fffffadf`c90a2ac8 fffff800`010ab7ca : 00000000`0000004e 00000000`00000002
00000000`0000010c 00000000`0007ffff : nt!KeBugCheckEx
fffffadf`c90a2ad0 fffff800`010023f2 : fffffadf`c9603240 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000010 fffffadf`cbd3e8c0 : nt!MiUnlinkPageFromList+0x7e
fffffadf`c90a2b70 fffff800`0100261e : fffffadf`cbb38d90 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!MiGatherPagefilePages+0x4a9
fffffadf`c90a2c60 fffff800`013cf9b2 : fffffadf`cecc1040 00000000`00000080
fffffadf`cecc1040 00000000`00000000 : nt!MiModifiedPageWriterWorker+0x444
fffffadf`c90a2ce0 fffff800`0124a972 : 00000000`00000000 fffffadf`cecc1040
fffffadf`cecc1040 fffffadf`c8c83680 : nt!MiModifiedPageWriter+0x1f2
fffffadf`c90a2d70 fffff800`01020226 : fffffadf`c8c7b180 fffffadf`cecc1040
fffffadf`c8c83680 00000000`00000001 : nt!PspSystemThreadStartup+0x3e
fffffadf`c90a2dd0 00000000`00000000 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000
00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KxStartSystemThread+0x16


STACK_COMMAND: kb

FOLLOWUP_IP:
nt!MiUnlinkPageFromList+7e
fffff800`010ab7ca cc int 3

SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 1

FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner

MODULE_NAME: nt

DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 460280f7

SYMBOL_NAME: nt!MiUnlinkPageFromList+7e

IMAGE_NAME: memory_corruption

FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0x4E_nt!MiUnlinkPageFromList+7e

BUCKET_ID: X64_0x4E_nt!MiUnlinkPageFromList+7e

Followup: MachineOwner
---------

So now I have to choose between restarting the game, or restarting my
computer and crashing during games.

So I rather restart the game instead.

End conclusion:

De-installing dual core optimizer

Hopefully games in the future stick with windows api and don't use asm and
rts clock instruction or something like that

Bye,
Skybuck.
 >> Stay informed about: Company of Heroe's and Opposing Fronts both have ALT-TAB B..