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Jonesy

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:17 pm
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I am guessing that the answer to this is going to be a big, fat "no",
but I wanted to ask here if anyone has had any success regardless.

I'm building a new pc. The previous computer I owned was a dell, and
after owning it for 6 months I purchased the "upgrade" version of XP (I
was originally using millenium).

Is there *any* possibilty of using the "upgrade" version of XP for the
OS on my new pc?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:13 pm
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In article <1107656259.144160.60530 DeleteThis @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
jonesy1973 DeleteThis @excite.com says...
 >
 >
 >I am guessing that the answer to this is going to be a big, fat "no",
 >but I wanted to ask here if anyone has had any success regardless.
 >
 >I'm building a new pc. The previous computer I owned was a dell, and
 >after owning it for 6 months I purchased the "upgrade" version of XP (I
 >was originally using millenium).
 >
 >Is there *any* possibilty of using the "upgrade" version of XP for the
 >OS on my new pc?


I think so, I do. However this assumes you have a CD for another
version of Windows from which you are upgrading. In your previous case,
it saw whatever was already on the Dell disk. But on a new computer
with blank disk, you have to show it the older version CD.

Near the start of the installation of the installation of the XP Upgrade
version, it will ask to see the CD for the older version (meaning you
take out the XP CD, and put in the older CD for a minute or so). I
dont have a Dell, but I show it an installation CD for a similar Upgrade
version of Win98, and then it's happy, and continues with the XP CD.
Any old Win98 or WinME CD should satisfy it.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:47 pm
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Here is the Microsoft page that describes requirements for installing
the XP Upgrade version.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316941

Says you can show a CD for any of

Windows 98
Windows 98 Second Edition
Windows Millennium Edition
Windows NT 4.0
Windows 2000 Professional
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 12:48 pm
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Wayne Fulton wrote:
 > In article <1107656259.144160.60530.DeleteThis@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
 > jonesy1973.DeleteThis@excite.com says...
  > >
  > >
  > >I am guessing that the answer to this is going to be a big, fat
"no",
  > >but I wanted to ask here if anyone has had any success regardless.
  > >
  > >I'm building a new pc. The previous computer I owned was a dell,
and
  > >after owning it for 6 months I purchased the "upgrade" version of XP
(I
  > >was originally using millenium).
  > >
  > >Is there *any* possibilty of using the "upgrade" version of XP for
the
  > >OS on my new pc?
 >
 >
 > I think so, I do. However this assumes you have a CD for another
 > version of Windows from which you are upgrading. In your previous
case,
 > it saw whatever was already on the Dell disk. But on a new computer
 > with blank disk, you have to show it the older version CD.
 >
 > Near the start of the installation of the installation of the XP
Upgrade
 > version, it will ask to see the CD for the older version (meaning you

 > take out the XP CD, and put in the older CD for a minute or so). I
 > dont have a Dell, but I show it an installation CD for a similar
Upgrade
 > version of Win98, and then it's happy, and continues with the XP CD.

 > Any old Win98 or WinME CD should satisfy it.


Thanks guys for your help. Another thing I forgot to mention was that
I was told that windows OS software is only licensed for use on *one*
computer only. There won't be any problems along this regard, will
there?

And yes, I still do have the "recovery" disk from my Dell that has
millenium.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:47 pm
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On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 21:47:04 -0600, Wayne Fulton <nospam RemoveThis @invalid.com>
wrote:

 >Here is the Microsoft page that describes requirements for installing
 >the XP Upgrade version.
 >
 >http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316941
 >
 >Says you can show a CD for any of
 >
 >Windows 98
 >Windows 98 Second Edition
 >Windows Millennium Edition
 >Windows NT 4.0
 >Windows 2000 Professional
 >

Provided the licence for the previous OS is a full licence. If it is
the OEM license for the Dell, it would be a license violation to use
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:58 pm
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Wayne Fulton wrote:
 > In article <1107722924.935755.236300.TakeThisOut@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
 > jonesy1973.TakeThisOut@excite.com says...
 >
  > >Thanks guys for your help. Another thing I forgot to mention was
that
  > >I was told that windows OS software is only licensed for use on
*one*
  > >computer only. There won't be any problems along this regard, will
  > >there?
 >
 >
 > Yes, the idea is one installed system per purchased CD. That's the
 > entire purpose of the XP Activation system, to enforce that
effectively.
 > You must Activate the new computer within 30 days to be able to
continue
 > using it.
 >
 > Here is a Microsoft FAQ about Activation.
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302878</font" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302878</font</a>>

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:50 pm
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In article <1107722924.935755.236300.RemoveThis@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
jonesy1973.RemoveThis@excite.com says...

 >Thanks guys for your help. Another thing I forgot to mention was that
 >I was told that windows OS software is only licensed for use on *one*
 >computer only. There won't be any problems along this regard, will
 >there?


Yes, the idea is one installed system per purchased CD. That's the
entire purpose of the XP Activation system, to enforce that effectively.
You must Activate the new computer within 30 days to be able to continue
using it.

Here is a Microsoft FAQ about Activation.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302878" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302878</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:28 am
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On 6 Feb 2005 21:58:05 -0800, "Jonesy"
 >So, I'm essentially stuck with buying another copy of XP then.

Timing is excellent to download and check out out Linux.
You may be very surprised. Two distributions are easy for
newcomers and freely downloaded, Mandrake 10.1 and SuSE 9.2.

Use this link for these and others: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://linuxiso.org/" target="_blank">http://linuxiso.org/</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:57 am
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On 6 Feb 2005 12:48:44 -0800, "Jonesy" <jonesy1973.DeleteThis@excite.com> wrote:

 >Thanks guys for your help. Another thing I forgot to mention was that
 >I was told that windows OS software is only licensed for use on *one*
 >computer only. There won't be any problems along this regard, will
 >there?
 >
If you can find an full install OS CD (which is not installed on
another PC) you can use to qualify for the XP upgrade, I think you are
fine.


 >And yes, I still do have the "recovery" disk from my Dell that has
 >millenium.
That is irrelvent, as that is an OEM license specifically for that
Dell.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:57 am
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On 6 Feb 2005 21:58:05 -0800, "Jonesy" <jonesy1973.TakeThisOut@excite.com> wrote:

 >
 >So, I'm essentially stuck with buying another copy of XP then.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:24 pm
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No, it will not work. For a new OS installation you MUST use the Full
version.

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DaveW



"Jonesy" <jonesy1973.RemoveThis@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1107656259.144160.60530@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
 >I am guessing that the answer to this is going to be a big, fat "no",
 > but I wanted to ask here if anyone has had any success regardless.
 >
 > I'm building a new pc. The previous computer I owned was a dell, and
 > after owning it for 6 months I purchased the "upgrade" version of XP (I
 > was originally using millenium).
 >
 > Is there *any* possibilty of using the "upgrade" version of XP for the
 > OS on my new pc?
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:35 pm
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  >>Here is a Microsoft FAQ about Activation.
<font color=brown>   >>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302878</font" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;302878</font</a>>
 >
 >
 > So, I'm essentially stuck with buying another copy of XP then.
 >

Oh, for heaven sakes. Install XP. Download "WPA_Kill.exe" from the
Internet and run it. Product Activation goes away.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:16 pm
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KC Computers wrote:
 > "DaveW" <none.RemoveThis@zero.org> wrote in message
 > news:Lq2dnY-dzs08m5XfRVn-1A@comcast.com...
  > > No, it will not work. For a new OS installation you MUST use the
Full
  > > version.
 >
 > If he won't be using the Windows XP OS on the Dell system
 > anymore, then Microsoft may allow him to move it to a differerent
 > system. A phone call to them is suggested.

Which is what I ended up doing (thanks to the polite responders here
though). I chatted with one of the techs on the phone and she seemed
pretty confident that I won't have a problem making the switch over to
the new computer, even with the Dell "reinstallation" cd. In any case,
she said to call back if there *is* a problem.

 >
 >
 >
 > ---
 > Kevin Chalker, Owner KC COMPUTERS
<font color=purple> > E-mail: kc.RemoveThis@kc-computers.com Web: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.kc-computers.com</font" target="_blank">www.kc-computers.com</font</a>>
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 >
 >
 >
  > >
  > > "Jonesy" <jonesy1973.RemoveThis@excite.com> wrote in message
  > > news:1107656259.144160.60530@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
   > >>I am guessing that the answer to this is going to be a big, fat
"no",
   > >> but I wanted to ask here if anyone has had any success regardless.
   > >>
   > >> I'm building a new pc. The previous computer I owned was a dell,
and
   > >> after owning it for 6 months I purchased the "upgrade" version of
XP (I
   > >> was originally using millenium).
   > >>
   > >> Is there *any* possibilty of using the "upgrade" version of XP for
the
   > >> OS on my new pc?
   > >>
  > >
  > ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:35 pm
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"DaveW" <none.TakeThisOut@zero.org> wrote in message
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 > No, it will not work. For a new OS installation you MUST use the Full
 > version.

If he won't be using the Windows XP OS on the Dell system
anymore, then Microsoft may allow him to move it to a differerent
system. A phone call to them is suggested.



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 >
 > "Jonesy" <jonesy1973.TakeThisOut@excite.com> wrote in message
 > news:1107656259.144160.60530@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
  >>I am guessing that the answer to this is going to be a big, fat "no",
  >> but I wanted to ask here if anyone has had any success regardless.
  >>
  >> I'm building a new pc. The previous computer I owned was a dell, and
  >> after owning it for 6 months I purchased the "upgrade" version of XP (I
  >> was originally using millenium).
  >>
  >> Is there *any* possibilty of using the "upgrade" version of XP for the
  >> OS on my new pc?
  >>
 >
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:43 am
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DaveW wrote:

 > No, it will not work. For a new OS installation you MUST use the Full
 > version.
 >

Wrong. All you need is an authorized copy of a supported, 'upgradable',
O.S. for it to verify during the install.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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