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Since: Jul 07, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 12:44 am
Post subject: "Crossgrading" VA-503+ --> PA-2013
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Hi all,
I recently found (?) a PA-2013 v2.0 and an ATX case/PS. I Already have
a VA-503+ with a K6-2 500 (100x5) on it. I was thinking of "cross
grading" all the components on the VA to the PA to get the new ATX
power supply and USB etc.
My questions:
1. I installed WinXP SP1 on the VA with the "press the F key and
select Standard PC" option (I am using the "hacked" APM bios); will
that be a problem if I just swap the HD over to the PA? Maybe it will
just detect the new power options and install the drivers off the CD?
Yes?
2. Given that the lastest BIOS for the VA isn't always the one that's
mentioned on the FIC website, whats the latest BIOS for the PA-2013?
TIA!
---->Zanadou |
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Since: May 14, 2004
Posts: 183
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 2:36 pm
Post subject: Re: "Crossgrading" VA-503+ --> PA-2013 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Question 1:
----------------------------
I am not sure exactly what will happen. One possibility is that Windows
will detect the new motherboard with the ACPI BIOS and install all the
drivers from that, including the ACPI HAL. The other possibility is that
Windows will detect all the devices, but leave the Standard PC HAL alone.
If this is the case, you can always go back into the Device Manager -->
Computer --> Standard PC --> Driver --> Update Drivers to install the ACPI
HAL.
Note that you can go only from Standard PC to ACPI through the Device
Manager. If you want to go from ACPI to Standard PC, you must do an
"in-place upgrade" of Windows XP -- that is, reinstall Windows on top of
itself, doing the F5 thing along the way.
If you decide to stick with the Standard PC HAL, you can still get the
computer to turn itself off when you shut down. Go to Control Panel -->
Power Options --> APM --> Enable Advanced Power Management Support.
If you do switch to ACPI, you may see some events in the Event Viewer that
state the "ACPI BIOS is attempting to write to an illegal IO port
address". These messages can safely be ignored. Basically, Windows XP
does not allow the ACPI BIOS to access certain I/O ports, and FIC never
upgraded the BIOS to accomodate this. It's no big deal, though. We've
been running a VA-503A like this for years, no problems.
Question 2:
-----------------------
You can find the latest BIOS at
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://ftp.fic.com.tw/motherboard/bios/socket7/pa-2013/" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.fic.com.tw/motherboard/bios/socket7/pa-2013/</a> . It appears that
the newest BIOS is JI4333, which supports the K6-2+ and K6-III+ processors
and adds support for hard disk drives up to 137 GB.
Hope this helps.
--Alex
Zanadou wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I recently found (?) a PA-2013 v2.0 and an ATX case/PS. I Already have
> a VA-503+ with a K6-2 500 (100x5) on it. I was thinking of "cross
> grading" all the components on the VA to the PA to get the new ATX
> power supply and USB etc.
>
> My questions:
>
> 1. I installed WinXP SP1 on the VA with the "press the F key and
> select Standard PC" option (I am using the "hacked" APM bios); will
> that be a problem if I just swap the HD over to the PA? Maybe it will
> just detect the new power options and install the drivers off the CD?
> Yes?
>
> 2. Given that the lastest BIOS for the VA isn't always the one that's
> mentioned on the FIC website, whats the latest BIOS for the PA-2013?
>
> TIA!
>
> ---->Zanadou<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> |
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Since: Feb 21, 2004
Posts: 143
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 1:59 pm
Post subject: Re: "Crossgrading" VA-503+ --> PA-2013 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I believe changing machine definition from ACPI to STD PC, or vice
versa, will cause problems due to resource re-allocation (IRQ's in
particular), and an in-place upgrade should be performed with either
move.
--
Best regards,
Kyle
"Alex Zorrilla" <apz DeleteThis @zxeng.com> wrote in message
news:3FCE1F34.95B72860@zxeng.com...
| Question 1:
| ----------------------------
| I am not sure exactly what will happen. One possibility is that
Windows
| will detect the new motherboard with the ACPI BIOS and install all
the
| drivers from that, including the ACPI HAL. The other possibility is
that
| Windows will detect all the devices, but leave the Standard PC HAL
alone.
| If this is the case, you can always go back into the Device
Manager -->
| Computer --> Standard PC --> Driver --> Update Drivers to install
the ACPI
| HAL.
|
| Note that you can go only from Standard PC to ACPI through the
Device
| Manager. If you want to go from ACPI to Standard PC, you must do an
| "in-place upgrade" of Windows XP -- that is, reinstall Windows on
top of
| itself, doing the F5 thing along the way.
|
| If you decide to stick with the Standard PC HAL, you can still get
the
| computer to turn itself off when you shut down. Go to Control
Panel -->
| Power Options --> APM --> Enable Advanced Power Management Support.
|
| If you do switch to ACPI, you may see some events in the Event
Viewer that
| state the "ACPI BIOS is attempting to write to an illegal IO port
| address". These messages can safely be ignored. Basically, Windows
XP
| does not allow the ACPI BIOS to access certain I/O ports, and FIC
never
| upgraded the BIOS to accomodate this. It's no big deal, though.
We've
| been running a VA-503A like this for years, no problems.
|
| Question 2:
| -----------------------
| You can find the latest BIOS at
| ftp://ftp.fic.com.tw/motherboard/bios/socket7/pa-2013/ . It appears
that
| the newest BIOS is JI4333, which supports the K6-2+ and K6-III+
processors
| and adds support for hard disk drives up to 137 GB.
|
| Hope this helps.
|
| --Alex
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| Zanadou wrote:
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| > Hi all,
| >
| > I recently found (?) a PA-2013 v2.0 and an ATX case/PS. I Already
have
| > a VA-503+ with a K6-2 500 (100x5) on it. I was thinking of "cross
| > grading" all the components on the VA to the PA to get the new ATX
| > power supply and USB etc.
| >
| > My questions:
| >
| > 1. I installed WinXP SP1 on the VA with the "press the F key and
| > select Standard PC" option (I am using the "hacked" APM bios);
will
| > that be a problem if I just swap the HD over to the PA? Maybe it
will
| > just detect the new power options and install the drivers off the
CD?
| > Yes?
| >
| > 2. Given that the lastest BIOS for the VA isn't always the one
that's
| > mentioned on the FIC website, whats the latest BIOS for the
PA-2013?
| >
| > TIA!
| >
| > ---->Zanadou
| >> Stay informed about: "Crossgrading" VA-503+ --> PA-2013 |
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Since: May 14, 2004
Posts: 183
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:50 pm
Post subject: Re: "Crossgrading" VA-503+ --> PA-2013 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Here is a link to the Microsoft Knowledge Base where they state that you
can go from Standard PC to ACPI in the Device Manager, but not the other
way around:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;810903" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;810903</a>
....and here is one where they advise against it:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;234558" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;234558</a>
I guess they didn't have the same guy review the articles. 
Personally, I would try it through the Device Manager first. If it
doesn't work (for example, your computer does not boot), you can always do
an in-place upgrade to repair it. Might as well try the easy way first.
--Alex
Kyle Brant wrote:
> I believe changing machine definition from ACPI to STD PC, or vice
> versa, will cause problems due to resource re-allocation (IRQ's in
> particular), and an in-place upgrade should be performed with either
> move.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Kyle
> "Alex Zorrilla" <apz.DeleteThis@zxeng.com> wrote in message
> news:3FCE1F34.95B72860@zxeng.com...
> | Question 1:
> | ----------------------------
> | I am not sure exactly what will happen. One possibility is that
> Windows
> | will detect the new motherboard with the ACPI BIOS and install all
> the
> | drivers from that, including the ACPI HAL. The other possibility is
> that
> | Windows will detect all the devices, but leave the Standard PC HAL
> alone.
> | If this is the case, you can always go back into the Device
> Manager -->
> | Computer --> Standard PC --> Driver --> Update Drivers to install
> the ACPI
> | HAL.
> |
> | Note that you can go only from Standard PC to ACPI through the
> Device
> | Manager. If you want to go from ACPI to Standard PC, you must do an
> | "in-place upgrade" of Windows XP -- that is, reinstall Windows on
> top of
> | itself, doing the F5 thing along the way.
> |
> | If you decide to stick with the Standard PC HAL, you can still get
> the
> | computer to turn itself off when you shut down. Go to Control
> Panel -->
> | Power Options --> APM --> Enable Advanced Power Management Support.
> |
> | If you do switch to ACPI, you may see some events in the Event
> Viewer that
> | state the "ACPI BIOS is attempting to write to an illegal IO port
> | address". These messages can safely be ignored. Basically, Windows
> XP
> | does not allow the ACPI BIOS to access certain I/O ports, and FIC
> never
> | upgraded the BIOS to accomodate this. It's no big deal, though.
> We've
> | been running a VA-503A like this for years, no problems.
> |
> | Question 2:
> | -----------------------
> | You can find the latest BIOS at
> | <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://ftp.fic.com.tw/motherboard/bios/socket7/pa-2013/" target="_blank">ftp://ftp.fic.com.tw/motherboard/bios/socket7/pa-2013/</a> . It appears
> that
> | the newest BIOS is JI4333, which supports the K6-2+ and K6-III+
> processors
> | and adds support for hard disk drives up to 137 GB.
> |
> | Hope this helps.
> |
> | --Alex
> |
> |
> |
> | Zanadou wrote:
> |
> | > Hi all,
> | >
> | > I recently found (?) a PA-2013 v2.0 and an ATX case/PS. I Already
> have
> | > a VA-503+ with a K6-2 500 (100x5) on it. I was thinking of "cross
> | > grading" all the components on the VA to the PA to get the new ATX
> | > power supply and USB etc.
> | >
> | > My questions:
> | >
> | > 1. I installed WinXP SP1 on the VA with the "press the F key and
> | > select Standard PC" option (I am using the "hacked" APM bios);
> will
> | > that be a problem if I just swap the HD over to the PA? Maybe it
> will
> | > just detect the new power options and install the drivers off the
> CD?
> | > Yes?
> | >
> | > 2. Given that the lastest BIOS for the VA isn't always the one
> that's
> | > mentioned on the FIC website, whats the latest BIOS for the
> PA-2013?
> | >
> | > TIA!
> | >
> | > ---->Zanadou
> |<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: "Crossgrading" VA-503+ --> PA-2013 |
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Since: Feb 21, 2004
Posts: 143
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 4:59 am
Post subject: Re: "Crossgrading" VA-503+ --> PA-2013 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Thanks Alex, I thought that there were 2 different opinions on this
subject.
--
Best regards,
Kyle
"Alex Zorrilla" <apz RemoveThis @zxeng.com> wrote in message
news:3FCF73CA.FBE44854@zxeng.com...
| Here is a link to the Microsoft Knowledge Base where they state that
you
| can go from Standard PC to ACPI in the Device Manager, but not the
other
| way around:
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;810903
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| ...and here is one where they advise against it:
|
| http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;234558
|
| I guess they didn't have the same guy review the articles.
|
| Personally, I would try it through the Device Manager first. If it
| doesn't work (for example, your computer does not boot), you can
always do
| an in-place upgrade to repair it. Might as well try the easy way
first.
|
| --Alex
|
|
| Kyle Brant wrote:
|
| > I believe changing machine definition from ACPI to STD PC, or vice
| > versa, will cause problems due to resource re-allocation (IRQ's in
| > particular), and an in-place upgrade should be performed with
either
| > move.
| >
| > --
| > Best regards,
| > Kyle
| > "Alex Zorrilla" <apz RemoveThis @zxeng.com> wrote in message
| > news:3FCE1F34.95B72860@zxeng.com...
| > | Question 1:
| > | ----------------------------
| > | I am not sure exactly what will happen. One possibility is that
| > Windows
| > | will detect the new motherboard with the ACPI BIOS and install
all
| > the
| > | drivers from that, including the ACPI HAL. The other
possibility is
| > that
| > | Windows will detect all the devices, but leave the Standard PC
HAL
| > alone.
| > | If this is the case, you can always go back into the Device
| > Manager -->
| > | Computer --> Standard PC --> Driver --> Update Drivers to
install
| > the ACPI
| > | HAL.
| > |
| > | Note that you can go only from Standard PC to ACPI through the
| > Device
| > | Manager. If you want to go from ACPI to Standard PC, you must
do an
| > | "in-place upgrade" of Windows XP -- that is, reinstall Windows
on
| > top of
| > | itself, doing the F5 thing along the way.
| > |
| > | If you decide to stick with the Standard PC HAL, you can still
get
| > the
| > | computer to turn itself off when you shut down. Go to Control
| > Panel -->
| > | Power Options --> APM --> Enable Advanced Power Management
Support.
| > |
| > | If you do switch to ACPI, you may see some events in the Event
| > Viewer that
| > | state the "ACPI BIOS is attempting to write to an illegal IO
port
| > | address". These messages can safely be ignored. Basically,
Windows
| > XP
| > | does not allow the ACPI BIOS to access certain I/O ports, and
FIC
| > never
| > | upgraded the BIOS to accomodate this. It's no big deal, though.
| > We've
| > | been running a VA-503A like this for years, no problems.
| > |
| > | Question 2:
| > | -----------------------
| > | You can find the latest BIOS at
| > | ftp://ftp.fic.com.tw/motherboard/bios/socket7/pa-2013/ . It
appears
| > that
| > | the newest BIOS is JI4333, which supports the K6-2+ and K6-III+
| > processors
| > | and adds support for hard disk drives up to 137 GB.
| > |
| > | Hope this helps.
| > |
| > | --Alex
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | Zanadou wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hi all,
| > | >
| > | > I recently found (?) a PA-2013 v2.0 and an ATX case/PS. I
Already
| > have
| > | > a VA-503+ with a K6-2 500 (100x5) on it. I was thinking of
"cross
| > | > grading" all the components on the VA to the PA to get the new
ATX
| > | > power supply and USB etc.
| > | >
| > | > My questions:
| > | >
| > | > 1. I installed WinXP SP1 on the VA with the "press the F key
and
| > | > select Standard PC" option (I am using the "hacked" APM bios);
| > will
| > | > that be a problem if I just swap the HD over to the PA? Maybe
it
| > will
| > | > just detect the new power options and install the drivers off
the
| > CD?
| > | > Yes?
| > | >
| > | > 2. Given that the lastest BIOS for the VA isn't always the one
| > that's
| > | > mentioned on the FIC website, whats the latest BIOS for the
| > PA-2013?
| > | >
| > | > TIA!
| > | >
| > | > ---->Zanadou
| > |
| >> Stay informed about: "Crossgrading" VA-503+ --> PA-2013 |
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Since: Oct 09, 2003
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:59 am
Post subject: Re: "Crossgrading" VA-503+ --> PA-2013 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I have an APM version based on the latest BETA BIOS for the PA-2013, too.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.geocities.com/tcsenter/ji4333apm.zip" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/tcsenter/ji4333apm.zip</a>
You may have to copy the URL and paste it into your browser vs. clicking on it.
Good luck,
Tim
zanadou RemoveThis @hotmail.com (Zanadou) wrote in message news:<2dfbabc7.0312022144.7e379762 RemoveThis @posting.google.com>...
> Hi all,
>
> I recently found (?) a PA-2013 v2.0 and an ATX case/PS. I Already have
> a VA-503+ with a K6-2 500 (100x5) on it. I was thinking of "cross
> grading" all the components on the VA to the PA to get the new ATX
> power supply and USB etc.
>
> My questions:
>
> 1. I installed WinXP SP1 on the VA with the "press the F key and
> select Standard PC" option (I am using the "hacked" APM bios); will
> that be a problem if I just swap the HD over to the PA? Maybe it will
> just detect the new power options and install the drivers off the CD?
> Yes?
>
> 2. Given that the lastest BIOS for the VA isn't always the one that's
> mentioned on the FIC website, whats the latest BIOS for the PA-2013?
>
> TIA!
>
> ---->Zanadou<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: "Crossgrading" VA-503+ --> PA-2013 |
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