DDR2 Memory

As has been said;
Turning off services can be 'fool-proof' method of totally screwing your sys
If by Office apps you mean MS Office then addins and AV apps are the most
likely cause of 'slowness'
Another general cause can be using winupdate for drivers

"Bill" <Bill_NOSPAM RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I have a Gigabyte 965P-DS3 motherboard which I bought over a year ago to
>support the Core2Due (2.4GHz). Back then, I paid quite a bit ($180, I
>think) for 2 pieces of Kingston KVR800D2N5, 512MB DDR2-800 memory. It
>has latency CL=5. I noticed I can get them now for under $30 a piece,
>but I was wondering whether there is a better memory I might choose
>instead. The most heavy-duty thing I do is running NetBeans (Java
>Development). I mostly run office applications, but I appreciate quick
>response. I noticed my systems seems a little slower in recent
>months...maybe I need to turn off a bunch of services? There seem to be a
>lot running. Is doing that mostly fool-proof? Thank you for comments
>
> -Bill
>
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"Kenw" <kenw.TakeThisOut@no295no.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:20:58 -0400, "Bill" <Bill_NOSPAM.TakeThisOut@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>>I have a Gigabyte 965P-DS3 motherboard which I bought over a year ago to
>>support the Core2Due (2.4GHz). Back then, I paid quite a bit ($180, I
>>think) for 2 pieces of Kingston KVR800D2N5, 512MB DDR2-800 memory. It
>>has
>>latency CL=5. I noticed I can get them now for under $30 a piece, but I
>>was wondering whether there is a better memory I might choose instead.
>>The
>>most heavy-duty thing I do is running NetBeans (Java Development). I
>>mostly
>>run office applications, but I appreciate quick response. I noticed my
>>systems seems a little slower in recent months...maybe I need to turn off
>>a
>>bunch of services? There seem to be a lot running. Is doing that mostly
>>fool-proof? Thank you for comments
>>
>>-Bill
>>
> If you are going to stop services, better learn how to use the
> Recovery Console. Been there DONE that !!
> There are some good and accurate sites for services.
> Might want to set them to manual rater than disable.
>
>
> KenW


Thank you for this important bit of advise and to everyone else who has
responded!

-Bill
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In article <8LOdndCFQJfoHpjanZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d.RemoveThis@comcast.com>,
Bill_NOSPAM.RemoveThis@comcast.net says...
> I noticed my
> systems seems a little slower in recent months...maybe I need to turn off a
> bunch of services? There seem to be a lot running. Is doing that mostly
> fool-proof? Thank you for comments
>
> -Bill
>

Hi Bill, yes, turning off services can make a huge difference. So can de-
fragging your harddrive, making sure no harddrive is fuller than 85% and
running several adware/spyware removal tools and a couple of virus scanners
over your system.

There are several websites, which I cannot refer you to at the moment that give
advice on which windows services to turn off, also with regard to security.
I have found that simply copying and pasting the names of different services
into google will lead to several websites that explain comprehensively what
each service is and does and if you need it or not.

Apart from adware and spyware, one big hog is the "Symantec Security" suite.
Sheer bloatware.

Getting your ram from cas5 to cas4 isn't going to make a lot of difference,
i.m.o. unless you are doing very comples ray tracing or huge compiles or
similar computation super-intensive stuff. If you had stability issues I'd
recommend going to Crucial or Corsair, but you don't need to do that for speed,
I feel.

h.t.h., -Peter

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"Peter Huebner" <no.one.TakeThisOut@this.address> wrote in message
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> In article <8LOdndCFQJfoHpjanZ2dnUVZ_vGinZ2d.TakeThisOut@comcast.com>,
> Bill_NOSPAM.TakeThisOut@comcast.net says...
>> I noticed my
>> systems seems a little slower in recent months...maybe I need to turn off
>> a
>> bunch of services? There seem to be a lot running. Is doing that mostly
>> fool-proof? Thank you for comments
>>
>> -Bill
>>
>
> Hi Bill, yes, turning off services can make a huge difference. So can de-
> fragging your harddrive, making sure no harddrive is fuller than 85% and
> running several adware/spyware removal tools and a couple of virus
> scanners
> over your system.
>
> There are several websites, which I cannot refer you to at the moment that
> give
> advice on which windows services to turn off, also with regard to
> security.
> I have found that simply copying and pasting the names of different
> services
> into google will lead to several websites that explain comprehensively
> what
> each service is and does and if you need it or not.
>
> Apart from adware and spyware, one big hog is the "Symantec Security"
> suite.
> Sheer bloatware.
>
> Getting your ram from cas5 to cas4 isn't going to make a lot of
> difference,
> i.m.o. unless you are doing very comples ray tracing or huge compiles or
> similar computation super-intensive stuff. If you had stability issues I'd
> recommend going to Crucial or Corsair, but you don't need to do that for
> speed,
> I feel.
>
> h.t.h., -Peter

Thank you for your reply. I've got the Symantec Security Suite. I
defragged my disk this weekend and that made a difference. I used one of
the disk performance benchmark programs someone recommended here, and my HDD
appears to be running about where it should be (never fast enough...). It
takes about a minute and a half for my computer to be ready to use after I
press the start button. I'm not sure how much of that is due to Symantec.
What do you prefer to use rather than Symantec?

-Bill
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In article <kYKdnesY1OdjYpfanZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d RemoveThis @comcast.com>,
Bill_NOSPAM RemoveThis @comcast.net says...
>
> Thank you for your reply. I've got the Symantec Security Suite. I
> defragged my disk this weekend and that made a difference. I used one of
> the disk performance benchmark programs someone recommended here, and my HDD
> appears to be running about where it should be (never fast enough...). It
> takes about a minute and a half for my computer to be ready to use after I
> press the start button. I'm not sure how much of that is due to Symantec.
> What do you prefer to use rather than Symantec?
>
> -Bill
>

I use the Sygate Personal Firewall Pro - nice, sweet, SLIM, moderately
powerful. Unfortunately Sygate have been bought up and shut down by Symantec (I
have a very good idea why - a better program that doesn't lock the user into a
never-ending spiral of renewals and updates; with a FREE version available) --
but you should be able to track down a download site somewhere. The non-pro
version is/was totally free to use, for the pro version you might need to find
a key generator these days. Also, it won't work with Vista.
Alternatively you could try Sunbelt Kerio firewall which is also very
good (the old predecessor-Kerio Firewall used to be very slim as well; haven't
tried the Sunbelt version yet) it is a commercial proposition, but I think they
have a 30 day trial. I may switch to that if I ever install the Vista Ultimate
I have sitting on the shelf here.
Both of these are more geared towards computer literate users rather than
sheeple like the Symantec stuff that doesn't tell you half of what it does, and
loads umpteen services that have no visible function other than making sure
that you don't violate Symantec's DRM in any way. Several competent people have
found the 'security suite' can be about as hard to remove as a clever trojan.
Very highly rated is the Comodo firewall, which is also a free solution,
but some people (including me) encounter the odd random blue screen of death
with it, which makes it a no-no for me.

I rely on Grisoft's free AVG antivirus solution, Avira is also recommended by
many powerusers and sysadmins I talk to. As a Firefox and Pegasus Mail and
Gravity user I have a lot fewer concerns about malware turning up on my
harddrive through browser/email exploits than Outlook/MSIE users ought to have


I run a couple of adware/spyware/trojan removers over my computer every 2 years
or so, and they never turn anything up except for alexa (that is actually a
part of Windows indexing/searching) and a few suspect cookies. See absolutely
no need to run any such on a _continuous_ basis.

cheers, -Peter

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Thank you for all of the information. I printed it out and will attempt to
follow up on it. -Bill


"Peter Huebner" <no.one DeleteThis @this.address> wrote in message
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> In article <kYKdnesY1OdjYpfanZ2dnUVZ_hOdnZ2d DeleteThis @comcast.com>,
> Bill_NOSPAM DeleteThis @comcast.net says...
>>
>> Thank you for your reply. I've got the Symantec Security Suite. I
>> defragged my disk this weekend and that made a difference. I used one of
>> the disk performance benchmark programs someone recommended here, and my
>> HDD
>> appears to be running about where it should be (never fast enough...).
>> It
>> takes about a minute and a half for my computer to be ready to use after
>> I
>> press the start button. I'm not sure how much of that is due to
>> Symantec.
>> What do you prefer to use rather than Symantec?
>>
>> -Bill
>>
>
> I use the Sygate Personal Firewall Pro - nice, sweet, SLIM, moderately
> powerful. Unfortunately Sygate have been bought up and shut down by
> Symantec (I
> have a very good idea why - a better program that doesn't lock the user
> into a
> never-ending spiral of renewals and updates; with a FREE version
> available) --
> but you should be able to track down a download site somewhere. The
> non-pro
> version is/was totally free to use, for the pro version you might need to
> find
> a key generator these days. Also, it won't work with Vista.
> Alternatively you could try Sunbelt Kerio firewall which is also very
> good (the old predecessor-Kerio Firewall used to be very slim as well;
> haven't
> tried the Sunbelt version yet) it is a commercial proposition, but I think
> they
> have a 30 day trial. I may switch to that if I ever install the Vista
> Ultimate
> I have sitting on the shelf here.
> Both of these are more geared towards computer literate users rather than
> sheeple like the Symantec stuff that doesn't tell you half of what it
> does, and
> loads umpteen services that have no visible function other than making
> sure
> that you don't violate Symantec's DRM in any way. Several competent people
> have
> found the 'security suite' can be about as hard to remove as a clever
> trojan.
> Very highly rated is the Comodo firewall, which is also a free solution,
> but some people (including me) encounter the odd random blue screen of
> death
> with it, which makes it a no-no for me.
>
> I rely on Grisoft's free AVG antivirus solution, Avira is also recommended
> by
> many powerusers and sysadmins I talk to. As a Firefox and Pegasus Mail and
> Gravity user I have a lot fewer concerns about malware turning up on my
> harddrive through browser/email exploits than Outlook/MSIE users ought to
> have
>
>
> I run a couple of adware/spyware/trojan removers over my computer every 2
> years
> or so, and they never turn anything up except for alexa (that is actually
> a
> part of Windows indexing/searching) and a few suspect cookies. See
> absolutely
> no need to run any such on a _continuous_ basis.
>
> cheers, -Peter
>
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