Dead SCSI System

John R Weiss wrote:
 > "Darren Harris" <Searcher7.DeleteThis@mail.con2.com> wrote...
 >
  >>Okay. Every couple of months I try again, and I'm still no closer to
  >>getting this PC running again.
 >
 >
 > When did it last work? For you, or did you buy it from a garage sale?
 >
 >
 >
  >>I tried disconnecting the hard drives, and as a result, only get as
  >>far as the BIOS screen right after the memory count up.
 >
 >
 > Hardware description? Does it have an IDE drive as well? Will it boot from
 > CD? Can you get to the SCSI BIOS?
 >
 >
 >
  >>With the hard drives re-connected I've lately and consistently been
  >>getting the "Invalid System Disk" message(even though there is no
  >>floppy disk in the drive), at which point I can only turn the PC off.
 >
 >
 > Is the HD formatted?
 >
 >
 >
  >>Anyway to get around this?
 >
 >
 > New HD
 > New SCSI card
 > Load an OS on the current HD
 >
 >
 >
  >>The problem now seems to me to be the mobo and/or the BIOS.
 >
 >
 > Will it boot from a DOS system floppy?
 >
 >
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Amazingly little information.
I hope you know what hardware you have in there; we certainly don't.
What SCSI card are you using - or is it part of the motherboard?
Do the drives spin up? Can you hear/see/feel them?
Does the SCSI card have onboard BIOS?
Have you tried to enter the SCSI card BIOS to configure the card?
Have you entered the SCSI card BIOS to low level format the drives?
What drives? Single ended? LVD? HVD?
Are the drives 50pin? 68pin? 80pin?
Do you have a terminator on the end of the SCSI bus segment?
Are the drives jumpered for their own individual SCSI ID numbers?
Does it boot from a bootable floppy?
Do you have a bootable floppy?
Can you boot an OS from the CDROM?
Do you have a CDROM?


 >Okay. Every couple of months I try again, and I'm still no closer to
 >getting this PC running again.
 >
 >I tried disconnecting the hard drives, and as a result, only get as
 >far as the BIOS screen right after the memory count up.
 >
Is that with or without a bootable floppy/CD in the system?
If it's without..... what had you expected the system to do next?

 >With the hard drives re-connected I've lately and consistently been
 >getting the "Invalid System Disk" message(even though there is no
 >floppy disk in the drive), at which point I can only turn the PC off.
 >
Has nothing to do with the floppy. The invalid system disk is the hard drive
you reconnected.

 >Anyway to get around this?
 >
A. Wait another couple months, and when the urge comes over you -
don't turn it on.

OR

B. Tell us something more than I have a computer with a scsi drive and
it doesn't work.

 >The problem now seems to me to be the mobo and/or the BIOS.
 >
 >Thanks.
 >
 >Darren Harris
 >Staten Island, New York.
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Well crap, I posted this in pc-homebuilt where only the last 3 posts
were visible with no RE: prefix. Made it look like a different thread
and without the info from the OP.


On Thu, 20 May 2004 23:58:40 GMT, kurt_SPAMLESS.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (Overlord) wrote:

 >Amazingly little information.
 >I hope you know what hardware you have in there; we certainly don't.
 >What SCSI card are you using - or is it part of the motherboard?
 >Do the drives spin up? Can you hear/see/feel them?
 >Does the SCSI card have onboard BIOS?
 >Have you tried to enter the SCSI card BIOS to configure the card?
 >Have you entered the SCSI card BIOS to low level format the drives?
 >What drives? Single ended? LVD? HVD?
 >Are the drives 50pin? 68pin? 80pin?
 >Do you have a terminator on the end of the SCSI bus segment?
 >Are the drives jumpered for their own individual SCSI ID numbers?
 >Does it boot from a bootable floppy?
 >Do you have a bootable floppy?
 >Can you boot an OS from the CDROM?
 >Do you have a CDROM?
 >
 >
  >>Okay. Every couple of months I try again, and I'm still no closer to
  >>getting this PC running again.
  >>
  >>I tried disconnecting the hard drives, and as a result, only get as
  >>far as the BIOS screen right after the memory count up.
  >>
 >Is that with or without a bootable floppy/CD in the system?
 >If it's without..... what had you expected the system to do next?
 >
  >>With the hard drives re-connected I've lately and consistently been
  >>getting the "Invalid System Disk" message(even though there is no
  >>floppy disk in the drive), at which point I can only turn the PC off.
  >>
 >Has nothing to do with the floppy. The invalid system disk is the hard drive
 >you reconnected.
 >
  >>Anyway to get around this?
  >>
 >A. Wait another couple months, and when the urge comes over you -
 > don't turn it on.
 >
 >OR
 >
 >B. Tell us something more than I have a computer with a scsi drive and
 > it doesn't work.
 >
  >>The problem now seems to me to be the mobo and/or the BIOS.
  >>
  >>Thanks.
  >>
  >>Darren Harris
  >>Staten Island, New York.
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Anyway, I'm going to have to try a whole new motherboard. So teans a
lot of work ahead of me, making sure I have all needed drivers.

I really just want to get the info off of the "C" drive, before I
can't anymore.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
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kurt_SPAMLESS.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (Overlord) wrote in message news:<40ad5ce5.330938328.DeleteThis@news.central.cox.net>...
 > Well crap, I posted this in pc-homebuilt where only the last 3 posts
 > were visible with no RE: prefix. Made it look like a different thread
 > and without the info from the OP.
 >
 >
 > On Thu, 20 May 2004 23:58:40 GMT, kurt_SPAMLESS.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (Overlord) wrote:
 >
  > >Amazingly little information.
  > >I hope you know what hardware you have in there; we certainly don't.
  > >What SCSI card are you using - or is it part of the motherboard?
  > >Do the drives spin up? Can you hear/see/feel them?
  > >Does the SCSI card have onboard BIOS?
  > >Have you tried to enter the SCSI card BIOS to configure the card?
  > >Have you entered the SCSI card BIOS to low level format the drives?
  > >What drives? Single ended? LVD? HVD?
  > >Are the drives 50pin? 68pin? 80pin?
  > >Do you have a terminator on the end of the SCSI bus segment?
  > >Are the drives jumpered for their own individual SCSI ID numbers?
  > >Does it boot from a bootable floppy?
  > >Do you have a bootable floppy?
  > >Can you boot an OS from the CDROM?
  > >Do you have a CDROM?
  > >
  > >
   > >>Okay. Every couple of months I try again, and I'm still no closer to
   > >>getting this PC running again.
   > >>
   > >>I tried disconnecting the hard drives, and as a result, only get as
   > >>far as the BIOS screen right after the memory count up.
   > >>
  > >Is that with or without a bootable floppy/CD in the system?
  > >If it's without..... what had you expected the system to do next?
  > >
   > >>With the hard drives re-connected I've lately and consistently been
   > >>getting the "Invalid System Disk" message(even though there is no
   > >>floppy disk in the drive), at which point I can only turn the PC off.
   > >>
  > >Has nothing to do with the floppy. The invalid system disk is the hard drive
  > >you reconnected.
  > >
   > >>Anyway to get around this?
   > >>
  > >A. Wait another couple months, and when the urge comes over you -
  > > don't turn it on.
  > >
  > >OR
  > >
  > >B. Tell us something more than I have a computer with a scsi drive and
  > > it doesn't work.
  > >
   > >>The problem now seems to me to be the mobo and/or the BIOS.
   > >>
   > >>Thanks.
   > >>
   > >>Darren Harris
   > >>Staten Island, New York.
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