Welcome to PCForumz.com!
FAQFAQ      ProfileProfile    Private MessagesPrivate Messages   Log inLog in

Defective CPU or mobo ?

 
   Hardware Problem Solving Community! (Home) -> AMD Thunderbird RSS
Next:  OC 2600 xp advice  
Author Message
Zotin Khuma

External


Since: Mar 16, 2004
Posts: 55



(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:07 pm
Post subject: Defective CPU or mobo ?
Archived from groups: alt>comp>hardware>amd>thunderbird (more info?)

Over the past 12 months, I've built more than 30 systems based on
boxed Athlon XP processors and Asus A7N266-VM mobos, and never had any
problem until very recently. One new CPU, a 2000+ Thoroughbred, failed
completely (confirmed by cross-substitution), giving continuous
high-low BIOS beeps. Another new case, a 2400+, is harder to pinpoint
because the fault is intermittent. It has never failed during usage
but sometimes refuses to start up, sometimes silently, sometimes with
high-low beeps. Resetting the BIOS by removing the battery and
discharging the CMOS enables it to start again, even if the RTC and
BIOS settings are immediately changed to preference again. Battery is
OK and replacement makes no difference. Even just removing and
reinstalling the battery restores it without shorting the "clear"
pins. One indication : It seems to be OK as long as the BIOS time/date
is not adjusted (NOT confirmed). Hard to confirm this because the
fault sometimes takes days (hours at the least) to reappear although
this particular computer is normally turned on and off several times a
day.

At first I thought it was probably a faulty BIOS chip, but the other
dead CPU, so closely followed in time, makes me wonder. I live in a
small isolated town and get all my supplies from a city more than
500km away. My point of purchase will replace confirmed defective
products without fuss, but I'm reluctant to remove the CPU for
substitution because the AMD-recommended "thermal interface" is not
available here or with my supplier. I have normal electronic heatsink
compound but not the special AMD gunk.

I've eliminated other obvious factors like memory, power supply,
drives, etc. I'll be grateful for any suggestions.

-Zotin

 >> Stay informed about: Defective CPU or mobo ? 
Back to top
Login to vote
stacey

External


Since: Nov 19, 2003
Posts: 351



(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:38 am
Post subject: Re: Defective CPU or mobo ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Zotin Khuma wrote:

 > Over the past 12 months, I've built more than 30 systems based on
 > boxed Athlon XP processors and Asus A7N266-VM mobos, and never had any
 > problem until very recently. One new CPU, a 2000+ Thoroughbred, failed
 > completely (confirmed by cross-substitution), giving continuous
 > high-low BIOS beeps. Another new case, a 2400+, is harder to pinpoint
 > because the fault is intermittent. It has never failed during usage
 > but sometimes refuses to start up, sometimes silently, sometimes with
 > high-low beeps. Resetting the BIOS by removing the battery and
 > discharging the CMOS enables it to start again, even if the RTC and
 > BIOS settings are immediately changed to preference again. Battery is
 > OK and replacement makes no difference. Even just removing and
 > reinstalling the battery restores it without shorting the "clear"
 > pins. One indication : It seems to be OK as long as the BIOS time/date
 > is not adjusted (NOT confirmed). Hard to confirm this because the
 > fault sometimes takes days (hours at the least) to reappear although
 > this particular computer is normally turned on and off several times a
 > day.
 >
 > At first I thought it was probably a faulty BIOS chip, but the other
 > dead CPU, so closely followed in time, makes me wonder.

Given the other system gave the same beeps, I'd be leaning towards another
CPU. I've used a bunch of those boards as well and they work great.

--

Stacey<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

 >> Stay informed about: Defective CPU or mobo ? 
Back to top
Login to vote
nemo

External


Since: Oct 15, 2003
Posts: 1



(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 2:46 pm
Post subject: Re: Defective CPU or mobo ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:38:45 -0400, Stacey <fotocord.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:

 >Zotin Khuma wrote:
 >
  >> Over the past 12 months, I've built more than 30 systems based on
  >> boxed Athlon XP processors and Asus A7N266-VM mobos, and never had any
  >> problem until very recently. One new CPU, a 2000+ Thoroughbred, failed
  >> completely (confirmed by cross-substitution), giving continuous
  >> high-low BIOS beeps. Another new case, a 2400+, is harder to pinpoint
  >> because the fault is intermittent. It has never failed during usage
  >> but sometimes refuses to start up, sometimes silently, sometimes with
  >> high-low beeps. Resetting the BIOS by removing the battery and
  >> discharging the CMOS enables it to start again, even if the RTC and
  >> BIOS settings are immediately changed to preference again. Battery is
  >> OK and replacement makes no difference. Even just removing and
  >> reinstalling the battery restores it without shorting the "clear"
  >> pins. One indication : It seems to be OK as long as the BIOS time/date
  >> is not adjusted (NOT confirmed). Hard to confirm this because the
  >> fault sometimes takes days (hours at the least) to reappear although
  >> this particular computer is normally turned on and off several times a
  >> day.
  >>
  >> At first I thought it was probably a faulty BIOS chip, but the other
  >> dead CPU, so closely followed in time, makes me wonder.
 >
 >Given the other system gave the same beeps, I'd be leaning towards another
 >CPU. I've used a bunch of those boards as well and they work great.
 >
 >--
 >
 > Stacey
Re-Flash the bios,Sounds like its corrupt if that dont do it then
change the board coz its faulty, Simple Really Smile<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Defective CPU or mobo ? 
Back to top
Login to vote
Gregory Toomey

External


Since: Oct 20, 2003
Posts: 30



(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 3:15 pm
Post subject: Re: Defective CPU or mobo ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

It was a dark and stormy night, and Zotin Khuma managed to scribble:

 > Over the past 12 months, I've built more than 30 systems based on
 > boxed Athlon XP processors and Asus A7N266-VM mobos, and never had any
 > problem until very recently. One new CPU, a 2000+ Thoroughbred, failed
 > completely (confirmed by cross-substitution), giving continuous
 > high-low BIOS beeps.

I have two a7n266-vm mobos revision 1.005, and a Duron 1300 & and Athlon XP 2000.
One of the CPUs does not work in one of the mobos.

There ARE timing issues that need resolving by ASUS/AMD.
And ASUS needs to get a better method of reporting errors the the old beep codes.

gtoomey<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Defective CPU or mobo ? 
Back to top
Login to vote
Display posts from previous:   
Related Topics:
Anyone have an Nvidia based mobo and uses Soundstorm? - Hey everyone. I've got an Audigy sound card in my AMD system. Like several others, I'm not all that happy with it. Creative's drivers simply suck. I'm looking to upgrade shortly after AMD releases the Athlon 64. I'm thinking about pairing one of..

Quiet fan recomendations for an single Opteron system - I'm about to build a new workstation based on an ASUS SK8V and an Opteron 146. I want the system to be quiet. Does anyone have a recomendations for fans that are both quiet and also do a decent job of cooling the CPU. How noisy is the stock cooler? Power...

power supply - Helo all I will be buying a Asustek S478 Intel 845PE ATX A L R with a P4 2.66 512KB S478 processor, and having looked at all the Atx cases on Dabs, they range from 180 watt to 400 watt, some are even marked as 12 volt, soory if this sounds like a silly....

Returning XP1800+ (box) for warranty replacement - I was talking to the guy to work out the RMA and during the conversation, he told me that they no longer have these processors. My motherboard (MSI K7T Turbo2) allows only up to the 1800+. So he asked me what I wanted to do. So I told him to just send....

AMD Athlon Mobile XP 1800+/2000+/2200+ running at FSB 200 .. - Hi! I got a Mitac Clone MiNote 7321 Notebook from IPC Archtec running a AthlonM 1200 MHz Processor. I worked through the AMD Technical Specification Docs and the CPU-Support-Tables: http://www.mitacservice.com/visitor_htm/cpu.asp..
   Hardware Problem Solving Community! (Home) -> AMD Thunderbird All times are: Pacific Time (US & Canada) (change)
Page 1 of 1

 
You can post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



[ Contact us | Terms of Service/Privacy Policy ]