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Since: Jan 03, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:35 pm
Post subject: Does Dell make its own motherboards?
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Do all Dell PCs (for the UK market) come with Dell's own
motherboards?
I am thinking of getting a Dell but I don't want to find that it uses
a Dell proprietary motherboard that may have little technical data
available.
ISTR hearing that Dell used a non-standad wiring on the 20 or 24 pin
mobo power connector. And I imagine there may be several other Dell
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 2:35 pm
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Lem wrote:
> Do all Dell PCs (for the UK market) come with Dell's own
> motherboards?
>
> I am thinking of getting a Dell but I don't want to find that it uses
> a Dell proprietary motherboard that may have little technical data
> available.
>
> ISTR hearing that Dell used a non-standad wiring on the 20 or 24 pin
> mobo power connector. And I imagine there may be several other Dell
> quirks.
>
They don't make their own boards, but they do have boards made for them
(usually by Intel) to their specs. I don't think they do the nonstandard
power connector anymore, but they do still do the nonstandard front
panel controls connector. Also, some boards have had a somewhat
nonstandard shape which may prevent replacing with a standard ATX board.
Essentially, don't count on being able to change out the motherboard in
the original case..
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:35 pm
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Lem wrote:
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> Do all Dell PCs (for the UK market) come with Dell's own
> motherboards?
>
> I am thinking of getting a Dell but I don't want to find that it uses
> a Dell proprietary motherboard that may have little technical data
> available.
>
> ISTR hearing that Dell used a non-standad wiring on the 20 or 24 pin
> mobo power connector. And I imagine there may be several other Dell
> quirks.
most every stupid branded maker has proprietry hardware.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:35 pm
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"Gordon Scott" <gordsmail DeleteThis @NOSPAMshaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Lem wrote:
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>> Do all Dell PCs (for the UK market) come with Dell's own
>> motherboards?
>>
>> I am thinking of getting a Dell but I don't want to find that it uses
>> a Dell proprietary motherboard that may have little technical data
>> available.
>>
>> ISTR hearing that Dell used a non-standad wiring on the 20 or 24 pin
>> mobo power connector. And I imagine there may be several other Dell
>> quirks.
>
> most every stupid branded maker has proprietry hardware.
> Get a clone.
A company called Hon Hai makes them in China<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Does Dell make its own motherboards? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 3:35 pm
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On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 19:14:40 GMT, Gordon Scott <gordsmail.DeleteThis@NOSPAMshaw.ca>
wrote:
>Lem wrote:
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>> Do all Dell PCs (for the UK market) come with Dell's own
>> motherboards?
>>
>> I am thinking of getting a Dell but I don't want to find that it uses
>> a Dell proprietary motherboard that may have little technical data
>> available.
>>
>> ISTR hearing that Dell used a non-standad wiring on the 20 or 24 pin
>> mobo power connector. And I imagine there may be several other Dell
>> quirks.
>
>most every stupid branded maker has proprietry hardware.
>Get a clone.
Plus the BIOS usually has 75% of the features/options pre-set/disabled
that you will find on the same/similar mobo you can buy off the shelf.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:35 pm
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"Lem" <z.DeleteThis@mail.com> wrote in message news:95D3C039A8FB6D5E712@130.133.1.4...
> Do all Dell PCs (for the UK market) come with Dell's own
> motherboards?
>
> I am thinking of getting a Dell but I don't want to find that it uses
> a Dell proprietary motherboard that may have little technical data
> available.
>
> ISTR hearing that Dell used a non-standad wiring on the 20 or 24 pin
> mobo power connector. And I imagine there may be several other Dell
> quirks.
>
If your ever considering "looking under the bonnet", or peeking at the
BIOS - don't do Dell!
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:25 pm
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Dell does not make its own motherboards.
But they are made to its specifications.
"Lem" <z.DeleteThis@mail.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
95D3C039A8FB6D5E712.DeleteThis@130.133.1.4...
> Do all Dell PCs (for the UK market) come with Dell's own
> motherboards?
>
> I am thinking of getting a Dell but I don't want to find that it uses
> a Dell proprietary motherboard that may have little technical data
> available.
>
> ISTR hearing that Dell used a non-standad wiring on the 20 or 24 pin
> mobo power connector. And I imagine there may be several other Dell
> quirks.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 7:35 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:35 pm
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Dell uses PROPRIETARY motherboards. They are NOT standard.
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DaveW
"Lem" <z.DeleteThis@mail.com> wrote in message news:95D3C039A8FB6D5E712@130.133.1.4...
> Do all Dell PCs (for the UK market) come with Dell's own
> motherboards?
>
> I am thinking of getting a Dell but I don't want to find that it uses
> a Dell proprietary motherboard that may have little technical data
> available.
>
> ISTR hearing that Dell used a non-standad wiring on the 20 or 24 pin
> mobo power connector. And I imagine there may be several other Dell
> quirks.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:55 pm
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FG wrote:
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> Dell does not make its own motherboards.
> But they are made to its specifications.
But there's a range of possibilities in that statement.
Any OEM of any significance has motherboards (and other hardware)
"made to its own specifications" but in many cases that simply means
they take the vendor's (say Intel's) spec. and incorporate it as their
own. They then order parts to this (their own) spec.
The advantage for the OEM is that it freezes the vendor's spec for the
board so that they can't make subsequent changes without the knowledge
and agreement (by a corresponding spec change) of the oem. This is a
very common practice amongst oems in all industries.
In other cases, large oem's do the whole design job in house, and
have someone make it for them (or make it themselves).<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Does Dell make its own motherboards? |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 9:35 pm
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Robert Hancock wrote:
> Lem wrote:
>
>> Do all Dell PCs (for the UK market) come with Dell's own motherboards?
>>
>> I am thinking of getting a Dell but I don't want to find that it uses
>> a Dell proprietary motherboard that may have little technical data
>> available.
>>
>> ISTR hearing that Dell used a non-standad wiring on the 20 or 24 pin
>> mobo power connector. And I imagine there may be several other Dell
>> quirks.
>
>
> They don't make their own boards, but they do have boards made for them
> (usually by Intel)
Intel hasn't made a motherboard for about 6 years now !
There was a big hubbub in the IT/tech news about it at
the time - how could everyone have forgotten already ?
> to their specs. I don't think they do the nonstandard
> power connector anymore, but they do still do the nonstandard front
> panel controls connector. Also, some boards have had a somewhat
> nonstandard shape which may prevent replacing with a standard ATX board.
>
> Essentially, don't count on being able to change out the motherboard in
> the original case..
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 10:35 pm
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 02:05:17 GMT, Rob Stow <rob.stow.nospam.TakeThisOut@shaw.ca> wrote:
>Robert Hancock wrote:
>> Lem wrote:
>>
>>> Do all Dell PCs (for the UK market) come with Dell's own motherboards?
>>>
>>> I am thinking of getting a Dell but I don't want to find that it uses
>>> a Dell proprietary motherboard that may have little technical data
>>> available.
>>>
>>> ISTR hearing that Dell used a non-standad wiring on the 20 or 24 pin
>>> mobo power connector. And I imagine there may be several other Dell
>>> quirks.
>>
>>
>> They don't make their own boards, but they do have boards made for them
>> (usually by Intel)
>
>Intel hasn't made a motherboard for about 6 years now !
Really? So these two dual-Prestonia/Lindenhurst server boards that we got from
Intel (one is a "Roadrunner" and the other is a "Coyote") don't actually
exist? Wow - that's a scary reality! 
>There was a big hubbub in the IT/tech news about it at
>the time - how could everyone have forgotten already ?
Possibly because it wasn't true?
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:35 am
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daytripper wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 02:05:17 GMT, Rob Stow <rob.stow.nospam DeleteThis @shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
>>Robert Hancock wrote:
>>
>>>Lem wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Do all Dell PCs (for the UK market) come with Dell's own motherboards?
>>>>
>>>>I am thinking of getting a Dell but I don't want to find that it uses
>>>>a Dell proprietary motherboard that may have little technical data
>>>>available.
>>>>
>>>>ISTR hearing that Dell used a non-standad wiring on the 20 or 24 pin
>>>>mobo power connector. And I imagine there may be several other Dell
>>>>quirks.
>>>
>>>
>>>They don't make their own boards, but they do have boards made for them
>>>(usually by Intel)
>>
>>Intel hasn't made a motherboard for about 6 years now !
>
>
> Really? So these two dual-Prestonia/Lindenhurst server boards that we got from
> Intel (one is a "Roadrunner" and the other is a "Coyote") don't actually
> exist? Wow - that's a scary reality!
You weren't paying attention. I didn't say Intel
wasn't selling motherboards - I said they weren't
/making/ them.
>
>
>>There was a big hubbub in the IT/tech news about it at
>>the time - how could everyone have forgotten already ?
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>
> Possibly because it wasn't true?
>
> /daytripper<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Does Dell make its own motherboards? |
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 6:35 am
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"Venom" <Viper RemoveThis @Mailhouse.com> wrote in message
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> Anybody that buys a brand name computer is an idiot.
Let's see, now. I've built about 20 PCs in my time. Yet, recently, I have
chosen to buy in some Dell PCs for the office. One reason might be that I
am, as you say, an idiot. The other reason might be that the Dells do the
job I need for the office, and they cost 20% less to buy in ready-built than
the price at which I can buy the parts.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 8:35 am
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In article <41da6c8e.TakeThisOut@news1.homechoice.co.uk>, NOTsomeone.TakeThisOut@microsoft.com,=20
a.k.a GB says...
>=20
> "Venom" <Viper.TakeThisOut@Mailhouse.com> wrote in message=20
> news:7DkCd.102371$K7.65026@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > Anybody that buys a brand name computer is an idiot.
>=20
> Let's see, now. I've built about 20 PCs in my time. Yet, recently, I have=
=20
> chosen to buy in some Dell PCs for the office. One reason might be that I=
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> am, as you say, an idiot. The other reason might be that the Dells do the=
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> job I need for the office, and they cost 20% less to buy in ready-built t=
han=20
> the price at which I can buy the parts.
20% for not being able to support them *properly* when the machine goes=20
down is worth it is it?
"But I have 3 year on-site warranty" you say
Good luck then.
Personally, i'd spend the extra 20% (which is how much on a home brew=20
machine, =A3100?) and be able to replace stock parts.
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