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NIV Consulting

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:01 am
Post subject: What is the Fastest MHz/GHz Clock Speed For the Intel P3 Slot 1 Processor/CPU?
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What is the fastest clock speed (in MHz or in GHz) for the Intel P3
Slot 1 Processor/CPU that Intel sold? The reason that I ask is that I
have a Tyan S1834 Tiger 133 Dual Processor Slot 1 motherboard. I
currently have 2 X P3 933MHz CPU's in my current configuration and
would like to get the fastest P3 Slot 1 processor. I know that the
P3's went up to 1.3 GHz clock speed but I have never seen one this
speed in the Slot 1 form factor. With this in mind, does anyone know
what is the fastest clock speed Slot 1 that was produced and sold by
Intel?

Also, is the P3 Xeon Slot (I am not sure which Slot it is) form factor
CPU the same as Slot 1? I am specifically referring to the P3 Xeon
that is the Slot form factor and NOT the flat chip form factor. Thus,
will the P3 Xeon CPU/Processor fit in my Slot 1 motherboard?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:01 am
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 04:01:28 -0000, NIV Consulting
<kevinwinstonshen RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>What is the fastest clock speed (in MHz or in GHz) for the Intel P3
>Slot 1 Processor/CPU that Intel sold? The reason that I ask is that I
>have a Tyan S1834 Tiger 133 Dual Processor Slot 1 motherboard. I
>currently have 2 X P3 933MHz CPU's in my current configuration and
>would like to get the fastest P3 Slot 1 processor.

1) Your post is redundant since you already asked a similar
question in another post.

2) Your board cannot support Tualatin CPUs, so 933MHz x 2
is the fastest you can practically use, any further effort
or expense would not have enough gain to be worthwhile.


>I know that the
>P3's went up to 1.3 GHz clock speed but I have never seen one this
>speed in the Slot 1 form factor.


Yes, because calling it a "P3" does not mean it's the same,
it was a Tualatin that went to (about, my memory of max
tualatin speed is vague but I think it was 1.4GHz), while
the coppermines your board supports only went to 1.1GHz.
1.1 isn't enough of an increase to bother with even if they
were free processors, when you aready had 933MHz.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 6:02 am
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NIV Consulting wrote:
> What is the fastest clock speed (in MHz or in GHz) for the Intel P3
> Slot 1 Processor/CPU that Intel sold? The reason that I ask is that I
> have a Tyan S1834 Tiger 133 Dual Processor Slot 1 motherboard. I
> currently have 2 X P3 933MHz CPU's in my current configuration and
> would like to get the fastest P3 Slot 1 processor. I know that the
> P3's went up to 1.3 GHz clock speed but I have never seen one this
> speed in the Slot 1 form factor. With this in mind, does anyone know
> what is the fastest clock speed Slot 1 that was produced and sold by
> Intel?
>
> Also, is the P3 Xeon Slot (I am not sure which Slot it is) form factor
> CPU the same as Slot 1? I am specifically referring to the P3 Xeon
> that is the Slot form factor and NOT the flat chip form factor. Thus,
> will the P3 Xeon CPU/Processor fit in my Slot 1 motherboard?
>

You can use http://processorfinder.intel.com to find processor
information.

Select the Pentium III section.

Use the package type selector, to limit the displayed items to
the package type you are interested in. Like SECC2.

For that generation of components, the stepping code indicated
the family type. Tualatin (1.5V) were Txx. Coppermine were Cxx.
And so on.

What I see there is a 1GHz Coppermine at the top of a SECC2 list.

Paul
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:30 pm
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kony wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 04:01:28 -0000, NIV Consulting
> <kevinwinstonshen DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > What is the fastest clock speed (in MHz or in GHz) for the Intel P3
> > Slot 1 Processor/CPU that Intel sold? The reason that I ask is
> > that I have a Tyan S1834 Tiger 133 Dual Processor Slot 1
> > motherboard. I currently have 2 X P3 933MHz CPU's in my current
> > configuration and would like to get the fastest P3 Slot 1 processor.
>
> 1) Your post is redundant since you already asked a similar
> question in another post.
>
> 2) Your board cannot support Tualatin CPUs, so 933MHz x 2
> is the fastest you can practically use, any further effort
> or expense would not have enough gain to be worthwhile.
>
>
> > I know that the
> > P3's went up to 1.3 GHz clock speed but I have never seen one this
> > speed in the Slot 1 form factor.
>
>
> Yes, because calling it a "P3" does not mean it's the same,
> it was a Tualatin that went to (about, my memory of max
> tualatin speed is vague but I think it was 1.4GHz),

Yes, you're right. I have a Tualatin Celeron here that is the fastest Tui
they made, 1.4Ghz. The PIII Tui's topped out at 1.33Ghz I think.

> while
> the coppermines your board supports only went to 1.1GHz.

I think that's a 100MHz FSB Celeron as well and very rare. AFAIK the fastest
Slot 1 PIII made was a 1Ghz, 100Mhz FSB model.

> 1.1 isn't enough of an increase to bother with even if they
> were free processors, when you aready had 933MHz.

933Mhz is about as good as it gets for that board, It's on a 133Mhz FSB
which is worth ~10% in CPU speed (IMO). Therefore going to a 1.1Ghz Celeron
would mean not only a slower FSB but also a smaller L2 cache = no
improvement. Likewise going to a 1Ghz/100Mhz PIII means slower RAM and would
be an overall slower machine that he already has.

The only way to put 1.3Ghz PIIIs in that board would be to use a pair of
Slot T adapters from Upgradeware (.com). However, I believe that there were
problems using the adapters in dual CPU boards. Not insurmountable problems
if you're *that* keen on what would be a small increase for the money spent.
Ping a guy called P2B in alt.comp.hardware.overclocking for help although I
haven't seen him post there for a while.
--
Shaun.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:54 am
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except that it was actually a slot 2 for p3's...most p3's were put
into slot 1's which were designed for the p2 originally....however a
bios flash would allow you to run the p3 in the slot 1....your best
bet would be to get a pentium pro....it was much faster throughput
than a p2 or a p3......there was even an overclock made for the
pentium pro of course THAT is a rare find as well

JT
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:54 am
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:54:12 -0000, justin.tierney DeleteThis @gmail.com
wrote:

>except that it was actually a slot 2 for p3's...most p3's were put
>into slot 1's which were designed for the p2

There is no slot 2.
Slot 1 works equally well for P3, but intel deliberately
changed the pinout because of a (GTL?) voltage change, they
didn't "want" you to reuse your old board for Tualatins, nor
even P3 coppermine for that matter but they only have so
much control over what a 3rd party (mobo manufacturer) sees
as value-added support for their customer base.


>originally....however a
>bios flash would allow you to run the p3 in the slot 1....your best
>bet would be to get a pentium pro...

Pentium Pro is not a slot 1 CPU.

>it was much faster throughput
>than a p2 or a p3......

No, it was barely faster than a Pentium 1. Maybe you're
thinking of Xeon?

>there was even an overclock made for the
>pentium pro of course THAT is a rare find as well


It's just not applicable.

There are some hardware hacks that could get a Tualatin to
run but at this late date, it's not worth the bother. If
performance really mattered it'd be time to replace the
system.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:45 pm
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justin.tierney DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> except that it was actually a slot 2 for p3's...most p3's were put
> into slot 1's which were designed for the p2 originally....however a
> bios flash would allow you to run the p3 in the slot 1....

Poppycock. There were many boards designed for PIIIs that came in Slot 1
format.

> your best
> bet would be to get a pentium pro....it was much faster throughput
> than a p2 or a p3......there was even an overclock made for the
> pentium pro of course THAT is a rare find as well

Yeah, great advice! Replace PIII 933MHz CPUs with Pentium Pros that don't
fit the motherboard and came at a stock speed of what? 233Mhz max? This
"overclock made for a pentium pro"? WTF are you on? Get your doctor to
titrate your meds a bit. An overclock isn't a tangible object. It's an
action. I bet the object you refer to is a *very* rare find indeed.

<opinion>

Googletards are ruining usenet. Was a time when a certain level of know-how
was required to post, now that barrier has gone. Good for people seeking
knowledge but bad too, in that clowns might come up with gems like justin's.

Rule of thumb; Take any advice given by someone posting via GG with a pinch
of salt. It could be good or it could be totally inaccurate.

</opinion>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:56 pm
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Hello. I Have a Tyan S1834 Board. I Ran Pentium3 667 133 FSB Coppermines for a long time with no problems. I bought 2 Pentium 3 IGhz 133 FSB (Slot 1) Yes the do make 1Ghz 133 Slot 1 Coppermines. I have only been able to run them both for a short time without the system getting unstable. Apparentlty, you have to have high quality 133 RAM and there is a patch (link Below) from Microsoft for systems running Dual Procs or Dual Core Systems.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/896256

This is an excellent board but it is very picky about what cards and memory you put in it.

If you have any other question\ comments feel free to email me at jimmyzx1 RemoveThis @netzero.com I am always looking for help with my system(s) and i am always experimentin with different combinations of Processors Video cards memory etc.
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