Welcome to PCForumz.com!
FAQFAQ      ProfileProfile    Private MessagesPrivate Messages   Log inLog in

About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200

 
Goto page 1, 2
   Hardware Problem Solving Community! (Home) -> Nvidia RSS
Next:  Refresh rate override with 162.18?  
Author Message
NoSpam

External


Since: Aug 03, 2007
Posts: 7



(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:27 pm
Post subject: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200
Archived from groups: alt>comp>periphs>videocards>nvidia (more info?)

Dear Group,

I need a graphics card for the ASUS A7N8X-X
motherboard. ( I do images, not gaming, not TV.)

I am thinking of the NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 200
or 400 card. These are listed as compatible for the
mentioned motherboard.

What confuses me and for which I am seeking ad-
vice is that the described card is offered under
names like Jaton, HP, Dell etc.

Are all these cards interchangeable? Do they
differ in driver, in output cables or format
(VGA vs DVI)? Do you know of a reliable source
for purchase?

I have spent a lot of time trying to find answers
by googling, but without success.

Any help is appreciated.

GR.

 >> Stay informed about: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 
Back to top
Login to vote
Victek

External


Since: Aug 03, 2007
Posts: 3



(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:27 pm
Post subject: Re: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

> I need a graphics card for the ASUS A7N8X-X
> motherboard. ( I do images, not gaming, not TV.)
>
> I am thinking of the NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 200
> or 400 card. These are listed as compatible for the
> mentioned motherboard.
>
> What confuses me and for which I am seeking ad-
> vice is that the described card is offered under
> names like Jaton, HP, Dell etc.
>
> Are all these cards interchangeable? Do they
> differ in driver, in output cables or format
> (VGA vs DVI)? Do you know of a reliable source
> for purchase?

Have a look at www.newegg.com - there will be pictures for the cards that
will show the outputs. I haven't checked, but it may be possible to get
different combinations of ports, such as S-Video output, VGA, DVI, etc. In
my experience they all use the standard Nvidia drivers so the brand doesn't
matter in that respect.

 >> Stay informed about: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 
Back to top
Login to vote
Paul57

External


Since: Oct 09, 2004
Posts: 984



(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:27 pm
Post subject: Re: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Victek wrote:
>> I need a graphics card for the ASUS A7N8X-X
>> motherboard. ( I do images, not gaming, not TV.)
>>
>> I am thinking of the NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 200
>> or 400 card. These are listed as compatible for the
>> mentioned motherboard.
>>
>> What confuses me and for which I am seeking ad-
>> vice is that the described card is offered under
>> names like Jaton, HP, Dell etc.
>>
>> Are all these cards interchangeable? Do they
>> differ in driver, in output cables or format
>> (VGA vs DVI)? Do you know of a reliable source
>> for purchase?
>
> Have a look at www.newegg.com - there will be pictures for the cards
> that will show the outputs. I haven't checked, but it may be possible
> to get different combinations of ports, such as S-Video output, VGA,
> DVI, etc. In my experience they all use the standard Nvidia drivers so
> the brand doesn't matter in that respect.

I'd agree with that. You want to be more curious about the
output options, and whether they are sufficient for your needs.

If you have an old CRT monitor, there may be less to worry about.
VGA connectors, with good analog capabilities, are easy to find.
If you have an LCD, it could have an analog input (VGA), a digital
input (DVI) or both. Depending on the age of the video card,
there may not be a DVI connector, and no digital output. Or,
there may be resolution restrictions on the DVI connector.

Your video card slot on the A7N8X-X is pretty universal. The "keys" cut
in the video card, are what is used to ensure there is agreement on
voltages. If the card fits in the slot, it should be safe. There
are exceptions to that rule, but the exceptions should be getting
harder and harder to find, as time passes. This overview article
should help.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html

There are 136 AGP 4X/8X video cards in this list. Many are duplicates and
are made by different manufacturers. The prices vary slightly on the
duplicates, as the RAM used may be different brands, and the manufacturer
may have been able to save a few dimes here and there. For the more
expensive cards, the ones that break more often, the warranty details
may factor into the purchase decision. For a $50 card, you may not care
too much about the warranty, as the expense of shipping the card around
may not make it worthwhile to fix or seek a warranty replacement.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048...6960963

In this example card, you get to see the results of going too cheap.

ASUS A9250/TD/128 Radeon 9250 128MB 64-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814121525

To understand why some of the people have problems with the DVI output, you
need to look at this article first.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvi

In this picture, you can see some of the connector variations.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/DVI_Connector...pes.svg

That Asus card has a DVI-D connector. It carries only digital signals.
The Asus card has a VGA connector, so there is an analog output. If you
wanted to use two monitors, one would be analog and the other one would have
to use the digital-only connector.

Most video cards with DVI connectors, will be DVI-I. The DVI-I connector
has both analog and digital signals on it. The analog signals are on the
"four dot" end. If the "four dots" are missing, there are no analog signals
on the DVI connector.

To get at the available analog signals on the DVI-I connector, you use
one of these. It picks up the signals from the "four dots" end and puts
it in the familiar 15 pin VGA connector format. So for the majority of
video cards, if you see a DVI-I connector, then a DVI-VGA adapter can be
used to run an analog monitor, like a CRT.

http://www.cooltechpc.com/ctpc/images/dvi-vga.jpg
http://www.cooltechpc.com/ctpc/images/vga.jpg

To save on future discomfort, it is a good idea to get a card with the
DVI-VGA adapter included in the box. It is one less thing to have to shop
for at the last minute, when you get a new monitor, or a friend comes over
and needs their monitor tested.

Anyway, back to that cheap Asus card. A DVI-VGA adapter won't fit. You
would not discover that, unless you looked closely at the connector. In
the picture here, you can see the "four dot" end is deficient.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-121-525-08.jpg

I picked this picture next, to illustrate a card with a dual link DVI
connector. The way I can tell, is the arrow they drew next to the
connector, because otherwise I wouldn't have been able to guess Smile
Dual link DVI can drive a digital monitor like an Apple 30".
With the two connectors, you could drive one monitor with the VGA
connector (analog signals), while the DVI-I dual link would be
able to drive the 30" screen.

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-241-044-02.jpg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814241044

(A card with two dual-link-DVI could drive two 30" monitors at the
same time. This is a X1650Pro.)

http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-241-043-02.jpg

There are other criterion I use when selecting cards. For example, if you
can see yourself using Vista in the future, and the Aero interface option,
knowing what shader support is provided might be important. There are
AGP cards that support DirectX 9 in the Newegg list, but there aren't
any DirectX 10 video cards in AGP format (yet). DirectX 10 is more
important for future gaming considerations.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/

Video card power dissipation, is important both for sizing the needed
power supply, and for helping to keep the computer cool inside. There
isn't a comprehensive source of power information, and you have to
scrounge through individual articles to find the info. Xbitlabs
has a search page, and if you use the Advanced Search and set the
"Search Using" to "All Words", then enter the video card model, as in
"7300 GT power', you can find articles like this. A 30W card is low
power, a 60W is midrange (what I have in my computer right now), while
a 120W card is typical of a high end card. For computers with limited
power supplies, and if you aren't a gamer, then a 30W card would be a good
choice.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/power-noise_7.html

Some video cards have a power connector on the end. For the AGP cards,
the connector type is the same as a disk drive. The connector
provides additional power, rather than trying to pull the power
through the slot connector. Seeing the connector, doesn't necessarily
mean the card draws a lot of power. It is just more convenient, if they
wanted to use +12V to run the card.

I didn't pick a "winning card" for you, because you might be price
sensitive. Maybe the MX 400 is all you need or want. It all depends
on what you plan on using for a monitor, as to whether that card
would be enough.

Paul
 >> Stay informed about: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 
Back to top
Login to vote
NoSpam

External


Since: Aug 03, 2007
Posts: 7



(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:25 pm
Post subject: Re: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Dear Victek,

Thank you for your quick response. I looked at the newegg.com
site and found two versions of the GeForce2 MX 400 card.
They are both PCI cards, no AGP is available. The pictures do
show the output which is of value.

I had been wishing for an AGP card. Since I do have empty PCI
slots I could install the card from newegg, but I think that an AGP
card would be better. What do you think

I could also get an AGP card elsewhere since I now seem to know
what the output looks like

Thanks
GR.
"Victek" <Victek.TakeThisOut@xyz.com> wrote in message
news:a9Isi.652$rG7.132@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
> > I need a graphics card for the ASUS A7N8X-X
> > motherboard. ( I do images, not gaming, not TV.)
> >
> > I am thinking of the NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 200
> > or 400 card. These are listed as compatible for the
> > mentioned motherboard.
> >
> > What confuses me and for which I am seeking ad-
> > vice is that the described card is offered under
> > names like Jaton, HP, Dell etc.
> >
> > Are all these cards interchangeable? Do they
> > differ in driver, in output cables or format
> > (VGA vs DVI)? Do you know of a reliable source
> > for purchase?
>
> Have a look at www.newegg.com - there will be pictures for the cards that
> will show the outputs. I haven't checked, but it may be possible to get
> different combinations of ports, such as S-Video output, VGA, DVI, etc.
In
> my experience they all use the standard Nvidia drivers so the brand
doesn't
> matter in that respect.
>
 >> Stay informed about: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 
Back to top
Login to vote
NoSpam

External


Since: Aug 03, 2007
Posts: 7



(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:25 pm
Post subject: Re: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Paul" <nospam RemoveThis @needed.com> wrote in message news:f8voks$ud6$1@aioe.org...
> Victek wrote:
> >> I need a graphics card for the ASUS A7N8X-X
> >> motherboard. ( I do images, not gaming, not TV.)
> >>
> >> I am thinking of the NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 200
> >> or 400 card. These are listed as compatible for the
> >> mentioned motherboard.
> >>
> >> What confuses me and for which I am seeking ad-
> >> vice is that the described card is offered under
> >> names like Jaton, HP, Dell etc.
> >>
> >> Are all these cards interchangeable? Do they
> >> differ in driver, in output cables or format
> >> (VGA vs DVI)? Do you know of a reliable source
> >> for purchase?
> >
> > Have a look at www.newegg.com - there will be pictures for the cards
> > that will show the outputs. I haven't checked, but it may be possible
> > to get different combinations of ports, such as S-Video output, VGA,
> > DVI, etc. In my experience they all use the standard Nvidia drivers so
> > the brand doesn't matter in that respect.
>
> I'd agree with that. You want to be more curious about the
> output options, and whether they are sufficient for your needs.
>
> If you have an old CRT monitor, there may be less to worry about.
> VGA connectors, with good analog capabilities, are easy to find.
> If you have an LCD, it could have an analog input (VGA), a digital
> input (DVI) or both. Depending on the age of the video card,
> there may not be a DVI connector, and no digital output. Or,
> there may be resolution restrictions on the DVI connector.
>
> Your video card slot on the A7N8X-X is pretty universal. The "keys" cut
> in the video card, are what is used to ensure there is agreement on
> voltages. If the card fits in the slot, it should be safe. There
> are exceptions to that rule, but the exceptions should be getting
> harder and harder to find, as time passes. This overview article
> should help.
>
> http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html
>
> There are 136 AGP 4X/8X video cards in this list. Many are duplicates and
> are made by different manufacturers. The prices vary slightly on the
> duplicates, as the RAM used may be different brands, and the manufacturer
> may have been able to save a few dimes here and there. For the more
> expensive cards, the ones that break more often, the warranty details
> may factor into the purchase decision. For a $50 card, you may not care
> too much about the warranty, as the expense of shipping the card around
> may not make it worthwhile to fix or seek a warranty replacement.
>
>
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048...6960963
>
> In this example card, you get to see the results of going too cheap.
>
> ASUS A9250/TD/128 Radeon 9250 128MB 64-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814121525
>
> To understand why some of the people have problems with the DVI output,
you
> need to look at this article first.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvi
>
> In this picture, you can see some of the connector variations.
>
>
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/DVI_Connector...pes.svg
>
> That Asus card has a DVI-D connector. It carries only digital signals.
> The Asus card has a VGA connector, so there is an analog output. If you
> wanted to use two monitors, one would be analog and the other one would
have
> to use the digital-only connector.
>
> Most video cards with DVI connectors, will be DVI-I. The DVI-I connector
> has both analog and digital signals on it. The analog signals are on the
> "four dot" end. If the "four dots" are missing, there are no analog
signals
> on the DVI connector.
>
> To get at the available analog signals on the DVI-I connector, you use
> one of these. It picks up the signals from the "four dots" end and puts
> it in the familiar 15 pin VGA connector format. So for the majority of
> video cards, if you see a DVI-I connector, then a DVI-VGA adapter can be
> used to run an analog monitor, like a CRT.
>
> http://www.cooltechpc.com/ctpc/images/dvi-vga.jpg
> http://www.cooltechpc.com/ctpc/images/vga.jpg
>
> To save on future discomfort, it is a good idea to get a card with the
> DVI-VGA adapter included in the box. It is one less thing to have to shop
> for at the last minute, when you get a new monitor, or a friend comes over
> and needs their monitor tested.
>
> Anyway, back to that cheap Asus card. A DVI-VGA adapter won't fit. You
> would not discover that, unless you looked closely at the connector. In
> the picture here, you can see the "four dot" end is deficient.
>
> http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-121-525-08.jpg
>
> I picked this picture next, to illustrate a card with a dual link DVI
> connector. The way I can tell, is the arrow they drew next to the
> connector, because otherwise I wouldn't have been able to guess Smile
> Dual link DVI can drive a digital monitor like an Apple 30".
> With the two connectors, you could drive one monitor with the VGA
> connector (analog signals), while the DVI-I dual link would be
> able to drive the 30" screen.
>
> http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-241-044-02.jpg
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814241044
>
> (A card with two dual-link-DVI could drive two 30" monitors at the
> same time. This is a X1650Pro.)
>
> http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-241-043-02.jpg
>
> There are other criterion I use when selecting cards. For example, if you
> can see yourself using Vista in the future, and the Aero interface option,
> knowing what shader support is provided might be important. There are
> AGP cards that support DirectX 9 in the Newegg list, but there aren't
> any DirectX 10 video cards in AGP format (yet). DirectX 10 is more
> important for future gaming considerations.
>
> http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/
>
> Video card power dissipation, is important both for sizing the needed
> power supply, and for helping to keep the computer cool inside. There
> isn't a comprehensive source of power information, and you have to
> scrounge through individual articles to find the info. Xbitlabs
> has a search page, and if you use the Advanced Search and set the
> "Search Using" to "All Words", then enter the video card model, as in
> "7300 GT power', you can find articles like this. A 30W card is low
> power, a 60W is midrange (what I have in my computer right now), while
> a 120W card is typical of a high end card. For computers with limited
> power supplies, and if you aren't a gamer, then a 30W card would be a good
> choice.
>
> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/power-noise_7.html
>
> Some video cards have a power connector on the end. For the AGP cards,
> the connector type is the same as a disk drive. The connector
> provides additional power, rather than trying to pull the power
> through the slot connector. Seeing the connector, doesn't necessarily
> mean the card draws a lot of power. It is just more convenient, if they
> wanted to use +12V to run the card.
>
> I didn't pick a "winning card" for you, because you might be price
> sensitive. Maybe the MX 400 is all you need or want. It all depends
> on what you plan on using for a monitor, as to whether that card
> would be enough.
>
> Paul

I thank you for your detailed info. It will take me some time to look into
it. In the meantime I wish to say that I am currently using a Mitsubishi
Diamond Pro 920 19inch monitor. I am thinking of getting a good LCD
in the future. I definitely do not need what is called three D performance
and fast action. I need good color and good resolution.

Another point is, that my image processing PC is not connected to the
net. It uses Win2k with Service Pack 4 and no updates. I have Direct
X 8.1 on it. I think and I hope that I am correct, that for my imaging
purposes I do not need late issues of Direct X. These all have to do
with creating images under various pixel generation algorithms. I do
not need the card to fill in anything. I generate still computer generated
images and I process my microphotographs only which come from
a single lens reflex digital camera.

Thank you for your help. If you have further suggestions please let
me know.

GR.
 >> Stay informed about: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 
Back to top
Login to vote
Augustus

External


Since: Jan 21, 2006
Posts: 122



(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:46 pm
Post subject: Re: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

> I then looked on the CD for this MB and found a lot of drivers for various
> cards, among which were the NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 200 and 400 cards.
> For this reason I figured that these cards would work.
>
> Now since you tell me that other cards will work, may be I should look
> into them. I feel however that to display images and work on them in
> Photo-
> shop and not doing games or movies, almost any card will do. Currently I
> use a fancy Mitsubishi display, but I wish to plan for an LCD

Your logic here in choosing a ancient video card based on using the the
drivers supplied on a 7 year old m/b driver CD is really odd. Any modern low
end AGP Nvidia or ATI based card will perform flawlessly in that m/b and
cost about $40. If you wish to plan for an LCD don't go with a dinosaur
card. If I was doing exclusively Photoshop, I wouldn't be looking for a
Gefroce2MX200 or 400 card. Photoshop CS2 is known to have perfromance issues
with older video cards.
http://avondale.typepad.com/pixelupdate/2005/05/photoshop_cs2_p.html
 >> Stay informed about: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 
Back to top
Login to vote
NoSpam

External


Since: Aug 03, 2007
Posts: 7



(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:25 pm
Post subject: Re: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Augustus" <no_one DeleteThis @nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:ICLsi.72648$tB5.47736@edtnps90...
> > I then looked on the CD for this MB and found a lot of drivers for
various
> > cards, among which were the NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 200 and 400 cards.
> > For this reason I figured that these cards would work.
> >
> > Now since you tell me that other cards will work, may be I should look
> > into them. I feel however that to display images and work on them in
> > Photo-
> > shop and not doing games or movies, almost any card will do. Currently I
> > use a fancy Mitsubishi display, but I wish to plan for an LCD
>
> Your logic here in choosing a ancient video card based on using the the
> drivers supplied on a 7 year old m/b driver CD is really odd. Any modern
low
> end AGP Nvidia or ATI based card will perform flawlessly in that m/b and
> cost about $40. If you wish to plan for an LCD don't go with a dinosaur
> card. If I was doing exclusively Photoshop, I wouldn't be looking for a
> Gefroce2MX200 or 400 card. Photoshop CS2 is known to have perfromance
issues
> with older video cards.
> http://avondale.typepad.com/pixelupdate/2005/05/photoshop_cs2_p.html
>
>

Hello,

I have looked at the above link. I am afraid for people who need to use
camera raw files CS2 is the only choice. The program is terribly bloated.
Many agree with that statement..

Now since you know what I need to do on my PC and know the mother-
board and the OS, what graphics card would you propose that allows me
to use my current monitor, Mitshubishi Diamond Pro and will later allow
connection to an LCD panel? Again I do no gaming, no movies, no TV.
Strictly images up to 5000 by 5000 pixels.

GR.
 >> Stay informed about: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 
Back to top
Login to vote
Bill16

External


Since: Jul 11, 2003
Posts: 330



(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 8:25 pm
Post subject: Re: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <AaMsi.5058$ug3.1757@trnddc06>,
NoSpam DeleteThis @nottobefound.org says...
>
>
<nsip>
> Hello,
>
> I have looked at the above link. I am afraid for people who need to use
> camera raw files CS2 is the only choice. The program is terribly bloated.
> Many agree with that statement..
>
> Now since you know what I need to do on my PC and know the mother-
> board and the OS, what graphics card would you propose that allows me
> to use my current monitor, Mitshubishi Diamond Pro and will later allow
> connection to an LCD panel? Again I do no gaming, no movies, no TV.
> Strictly images up to 5000 by 5000 pixels.
>
> GR.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?
Item=N82E16814130207

http://tinyurl.com/2gl9yl

This will probably fit your needs.

Bill
--
Gmail and Google Groups. This century's answer to AOL and
WebTV.
 >> Stay informed about: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 
Back to top
Login to vote
NoSpam

External


Since: Aug 03, 2007
Posts: 7



(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:14 pm
Post subject: Re: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Paul" <nospam DeleteThis @needed.com> wrote in message news:f8voks$ud6$1@aioe.org...
> Victek wrote:
> >> I need a graphics card for the ASUS A7N8X-X
> >> motherboard. ( I do images, not gaming, not TV.)
> >>
> >> I am thinking of the NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 200
> >> or 400 card. These are listed as compatible for the
> >> mentioned motherboard.
> >>
> >> What confuses me and for which I am seeking ad-
> >> vice is that the described card is offered under
> >> names like Jaton, HP, Dell etc.
> >>
> >> Are all these cards interchangeable? Do they
> >> differ in driver, in output cables or format
> >> (VGA vs DVI)? Do you know of a reliable source
> >> for purchase?
> >
> > Have a look at www.newegg.com - there will be pictures for the cards
> > that will show the outputs. I haven't checked, but it may be possible
> > to get different combinations of ports, such as S-Video output, VGA,
> > DVI, etc. In my experience they all use the standard Nvidia drivers so
> > the brand doesn't matter in that respect.
>
> I'd agree with that. You want to be more curious about the
> output options, and whether they are sufficient for your needs.
>
> If you have an old CRT monitor, there may be less to worry about.
> VGA connectors, with good analog capabilities, are easy to find.
> If you have an LCD, it could have an analog input (VGA), a digital
> input (DVI) or both. Depending on the age of the video card,
> there may not be a DVI connector, and no digital output. Or,
> there may be resolution restrictions on the DVI connector.
>
> Your video card slot on the A7N8X-X is pretty universal. The "keys" cut
> in the video card, are what is used to ensure there is agreement on
> voltages. If the card fits in the slot, it should be safe. There
> are exceptions to that rule, but the exceptions should be getting
> harder and harder to find, as time passes. This overview article
> should help.
>
> http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html
>
> There are 136 AGP 4X/8X video cards in this list. Many are duplicates and
> are made by different manufacturers. The prices vary slightly on the
> duplicates, as the RAM used may be different brands, and the manufacturer
> may have been able to save a few dimes here and there. For the more
> expensive cards, the ones that break more often, the warranty details
> may factor into the purchase decision. For a $50 card, you may not care
> too much about the warranty, as the expense of shipping the card around
> may not make it worthwhile to fix or seek a warranty replacement.
>
>
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010380048...6960963
>
> In this example card, you get to see the results of going too cheap.
>
> ASUS A9250/TD/128 Radeon 9250 128MB 64-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16814121525
>
> To understand why some of the people have problems with the DVI output,
you
> need to look at this article first.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvi
>
> In this picture, you can see some of the connector variations.
>
>
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/DVI_Connector...pes.svg
>
> That Asus card has a DVI-D connector. It carries only digital signals.
> The Asus card has a VGA connector, so there is an analog output. If you
> wanted to use two monitors, one would be analog and the other one would
have
> to use the digital-only connector.
>
> Most video cards with DVI connectors, will be DVI-I. The DVI-I connector
> has both analog and digital signals on it. The analog signals are on the
> "four dot" end. If the "four dots" are missing, there are no analog
signals
> on the DVI connector.
>
> To get at the available analog signals on the DVI-I connector, you use
> one of these. It picks up the signals from the "four dots" end and puts
> it in the familiar 15 pin VGA connector format. So for the majority of
> video cards, if you see a DVI-I connector, then a DVI-VGA adapter can be
> used to run an analog monitor, like a CRT.
>
> http://www.cooltechpc.com/ctpc/images/dvi-vga.jpg
> http://www.cooltechpc.com/ctpc/images/vga.jpg
>
> To save on future discomfort, it is a good idea to get a card with the
> DVI-VGA adapter included in the box. It is one less thing to have to shop
> for at the last minute, when you get a new monitor, or a friend comes over
> and needs their monitor tested.
>
> Anyway, back to that cheap Asus card. A DVI-VGA adapter won't fit. You
> would not discover that, unless you looked closely at the connector. In
> the picture here, you can see the "four dot" end is deficient.
>
> http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-121-525-08.jpg
>
> I picked this picture next, to illustrate a card with a dual link DVI
> connector. The way I can tell, is the arrow they drew next to the
> connector, because otherwise I wouldn't have been able to guess Smile
> Dual link DVI can drive a digital monitor like an Apple 30".
> With the two connectors, you could drive one monitor with the VGA
> connector (analog signals), while the DVI-I dual link would be
> able to drive the 30" screen.
>
> http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-241-044-02.jpg
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814241044
>
> (A card with two dual-link-DVI could drive two 30" monitors at the
> same time. This is a X1650Pro.)
>
> http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-241-043-02.jpg
>
> There are other criterion I use when selecting cards. For example, if you
> can see yourself using Vista in the future, and the Aero interface option,
> knowing what shader support is provided might be important. There are
> AGP cards that support DirectX 9 in the Newegg list, but there aren't
> any DirectX 10 video cards in AGP format (yet). DirectX 10 is more
> important for future gaming considerations.
>
> http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/
>
> Video card power dissipation, is important both for sizing the needed
> power supply, and for helping to keep the computer cool inside. There
> isn't a comprehensive source of power information, and you have to
> scrounge through individual articles to find the info. Xbitlabs
> has a search page, and if you use the Advanced Search and set the
> "Search Using" to "All Words", then enter the video card model, as in
> "7300 GT power', you can find articles like this. A 30W card is low
> power, a 60W is midrange (what I have in my computer right now), while
> a 120W card is typical of a high end card. For computers with limited
> power supplies, and if you aren't a gamer, then a 30W card would be a good
> choice.
>
> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/power-noise_7.html
>
> Some video cards have a power connector on the end. For the AGP cards,
> the connector type is the same as a disk drive. The connector
> provides additional power, rather than trying to pull the power
> through the slot connector. Seeing the connector, doesn't necessarily
> mean the card draws a lot of power. It is just more convenient, if they
> wanted to use +12V to run the card.
>
> I didn't pick a "winning card" for you, because you might be price
> sensitive. Maybe the MX 400 is all you need or want. It all depends
> on what you plan on using for a monitor, as to whether that card
> would be enough.
>
> Paul

Well Paul, your hints about the connectors are of great value. I am now
in a much better position to appreciate what is involved. I am not planning
on using two monitors, but I may want to use the one to one pixel corre-
spondence between file and monitor which DVI makes possible.

I am now hoping to get some concrete suggestions regarding a good
choice of adapter.

Thank you
GR.
 >> Stay informed about: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 
Back to top
Login to vote
Augustus

External


Since: Jan 21, 2006
Posts: 122



(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 10:24 pm
Post subject: Re: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Again I do no gaming, no movies, no TV.
> Strictly images up to 5000 by 5000 pixels.
>
> GR.

If you want to go Nvidia, in the $50 range, this fanless EVGA 6200....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130233

In the $60 range, this Diamond ATI X1050 is very good for the money. Has
some minor 3D ability too, but is also a 128bit card whereas the $50 EVGA is
a 64bit card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814103033


There's plenty of others in this range that will do.
 >> Stay informed about: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 
Back to top
Login to vote
Mac Cool

External


Since: Sep 29, 2004
Posts: 414



(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 4:42 am
Post subject: Re: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Back to top
Login to vote
Benjamin Gawert

External


Since: Oct 03, 2005
Posts: 190



(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:17 pm
Post subject: Re: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

* NoSpam:

> Thank you so much and I am glad I found knowledgable people to
> help.

You're welcome. That's what newsgroups are for.

> It is true that my motherboard CD lists some 38 cards which
> are compatible and it gives the drivers for them. It is also true that
> drivers will have been updated, but the list is of value because it gives
> compatible video cards.

Not really. It just tells you what video cards are supported by the
drivers on that CD, nothing more.

As to compatibility: your mobo is compatible with all AGP4x or AGP8x
cards, that means with every ATI Radeon and every Nvidia Geforce that
has an AGP interface. AGP is a standard.

And: methusalem cards like the ATI Rage128 should *never* be considered
to be used in such a mainboard. Never. Ever.

> The question is which card should I use which
> meets my requirements? Do you have any ideas?

Yes. Forget that list and get a modern entry level card.

> I am enclosing the mentioned list. I am open to all suggestions, that is
> why I turned to this group. I think that using any card newer than the
> ones listed may, just may be asking for problems.

Nope, it's not. You're just projecting the problems you had with an
almost 10 year old gfx card that already was a POS when it was new to
current gfx cards. But that is not the same.

I'd recommend you go for a Geforce 6200 which should be obtainable
around 50 bucks, if you want something cheaper get a Geforce FX5200 or
FX5500. All of these cards are compatible with your mobo, and all of
them fit the requirements you have. No need to hunt for outdated hardware.

Benjamin
 >> Stay informed about: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 
Back to top
Login to vote
NoSpam

External


Since: Aug 03, 2007
Posts: 7



(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:27 pm
Post subject: Re: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200, Thanks to all [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

To all of you,

I thank you for your great and efficient help. It was a pleasure to
interact with this news group.

I have ordered a
GeForce 6200 256MB 64-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X adapter
from newegg. I had not heard of the company previously.
They have a good website.

Greetings

GR
 >> Stay informed about: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 
Back to top
Login to vote
Mr.E Solved!

External


Since: Dec 10, 2006
Posts: 135



(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 5:38 pm
Post subject: Re: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200, Thanks to all [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

NoSpam wrote:
> To all of you,
>
> I thank you for your great and efficient help. It was a pleasure to
> interact with this news group.
>
> I have ordered a
> GeForce 6200 256MB 64-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X adapter
> from newegg. I had not heard of the company previously.
> They have a good website.
>
> Greetings
>
> GR

We look forward to you next PC upgrade in the year 2014. Start saving now.
 >> Stay informed about: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 
Back to top
Login to vote
NoSpam

External


Since: Aug 03, 2007
Posts: 7



(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 11:22 pm
Post subject: Re: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200, Thanks to all [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Mr.E Solved!" <Iamsingle.DeleteThis@askme.out> wrote in message
news:FMWdnfZTKeJwbCnbnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comcast.com...
> NoSpam wrote:
> > To all of you,
> >
> > I thank you for your great and efficient help. It was a pleasure to
> > interact with this news group.
> >
> > I have ordered a
> > GeForce 6200 256MB 64-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X adapter
> > from newegg. I had not heard of the company previously.
> > They have a good website.
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > GR
>
> We look forward to you next PC upgrade in the year 2014. Start saving now.

I understand your humor. But..... its not all that funny. I am an old
man and live on Soc.Security and a tiny pension.I hope to live to
2014 but I may not make it. Even if I do an upgrade then would
be too late.

Greetings

GR.
 >> Stay informed about: About NVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 
Back to top
Login to vote
Display posts from previous:   
Related Topics:
NVidia Geforce 2 MX200 - Is there a WDM driver for this video Card? I installed a driver but my video card is not recognized as a WDM in VirtualDub I just want to make a copy of my VCR on the computer.

Replacing fan on NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS - The fan on my NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS card has begun howling. I cleaned it and oiled it, but it does no good. I think it has to be replaced. The fan is an ADDA #AP4512MX-G90. Does anyone know where I could buy such a fan or a suitable substitute?

NVIDIA Geforce2 MX 400: Tv-Out 'fantastic' problem , Ideas.. - Hello, I'm using an old Geforce2 MX 400 card with TV-OUT for watching movies on my TV. I'm using the program TVTool , my TV-Chip on the videocard is CH7007 ... Everything is ok when I press 'TV Mode' button in my TVTool program: I have the picture from...

Geforce2 MX 100/200 - Using this card with an Intel P3 733 with a Via board. I had problems with a setting in the Bios called "Manual AGP Comp. Driving" I remember setting this to some value, and having it work again -- though, now I've lost the info, and the settin...

geforce2 mx 100/200 - hello I have been trying for hours to download the above driver. I did not make it. In nvidia download i was stucked with the copyright the accept button does not work. Can you help me please. thank you jerome
   Hardware Problem Solving Community! (Home) -> Nvidia All times are: Pacific Time (US & Canada) (change)
Goto page 1, 2
Page 1 of 2

 
You can post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum



[ Contact us | Terms of Service/Privacy Policy ]