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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:35 pm
Post subject: HELP: Athlon Thunderbird 1400+ settings....(?????)
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Hi,
I've got an Athlon Thunderbird 1400+ CPU (the last Athlon before Athlon XP)
on a ABIT KG7, chipset AMD 761....
I would like to know which is the properly speed that I must set it on....
I mean, if it's a 1400+ it means that it works just like a 1400 but it isn't
effectively a CPU working at 1400 MHz...right?
My actual setting is:
-FSB: 133 MHz
-Multiplyer: 10x
==> it works at 1333 Mhz....at 52 °C....is it ok or is it too hot?
In your opinion, is it the proper setting? And which is the base setting?
Any suggestion?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:35 pm
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1400's actualy ran at 1.4ghz. 133 x 10.5
"Ippus" <fcaimiNOSPAM RemoveThis @fastwebnet.it> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I've got an Athlon Thunderbird 1400+ CPU (the last Athlon before Athlon
XP)
> on a ABIT KG7, chipset AMD 761....
> I would like to know which is the properly speed that I must set it on....
>
> I mean, if it's a 1400+ it means that it works just like a 1400 but it
isn't
> effectively a CPU working at 1400 MHz...right?
>
> My actual setting is:
> -FSB: 133 MHz
> -Multiplyer: 10x
> ==> it works at 1333 Mhz....at 52 °C....is it ok or is it too hot?
>
> In your opinion, is it the proper setting? And which is the base setting?
>
> Any suggestion?
>
> Thanks for reading....
>
> Bye
>
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:35 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:35 pm
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"Ippus" <fcaimiNOSPAM.RemoveThis@fastwebnet.it> wrote in message
> news:qHnVd.772$WC1.5@tornado.fastwebnet.it...
> > My actual setting is:
> > -FSB: 133 MHz
> > -Multiplyer: 10x
> > ==> it works at 1333 Mhz....at 52 °C....is it ok or is it too hot?
Temperature is OK for an Thunderbird.... they were well known for their
temperatures, so to say  
And as Dawg already said, a 1400 Mhz Athlon TB runs at 1,4 Ghz
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:35 pm
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And how can I discover it? I mean, how I could understand if I've got the B
or the C one?
....Now I just see that if I set it at 1200*133 it is unstable....at 1333*10
it is ok....but....If I do a simple application, temp increase up to 60°C
......is it "bad"?
Which is the Critical Temperature that it could support?
"Bill" <spamtrap DeleteThis @tinlc.lumbercartel.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:MPG.1c8fdcbd1398c56398968e@news.supernews.com...
> In article <AzpVd.94439$Th1.36908@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> "dawg" <don't look DeleteThis @worldnet.att.net> says...
>> 1400's actualy ran at 1.4ghz. 133 x 10.5
>>
> <snip>
>
> I seem to remember the "B" model ran at 14x100. The "C" ran at 10.5
> x133.
>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:35 pm
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In article <kCrVd.1212$WC1.859@tornado.fastwebnet.it>,
fcaimiNOSPAM RemoveThis @fastwebnet.it says...
> And how can I discover it? I mean, how I could understand if I've got the B
> or the C one?
>
> ...Now I just see that if I set it at 1200*133 it is unstable....at 1333*10
> it is ok....but....If I do a simple application, temp increase up to 60°C
> .....is it "bad"?
> Which is the Critical Temperature that it could support?
>
> "Bill" <spamtrap RemoveThis @tinlc.lumbercartel.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:MPG.1c8fdcbd1398c56398968e@news.supernews.com...
> > In article <AzpVd.94439$Th1.36908@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> > "dawg" <don't look RemoveThis @worldnet.att.net> says...
> >> 1400's actualy ran at 1.4ghz. 133 x 10.5
> >>
> > <snip>
> >
> > I seem to remember the "B" model ran at 14x100. The "C" ran at 10.5
> > x133.
> >
> > Bill
>
>
>
On the top of the processor, < wipe off the heat paste and get your
magnifying glass out > there is a line of numbers that goes like:
A1400XXXXB or A1400XXXXC B for the 100FSB and C for the 133 FSB.
This was nice enough to bookmark:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.thedigerati.us/info/amdcpuchart.html" target="_blank">http://www.thedigerati.us/info/amdcpuchart.html</a>
Scroll down to AMD Thunderbirds/ Model 4. Max Temp on die is 95C, but
since you're not measuring the die temp I wouldn't let it get past 65C
indicated. I seem to remember mine got flaky above that temp.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:35 pm
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"Bill" <spamtrap RemoveThis @tinlc.lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1c900adc29960985989690@news.supernews.com...
> In article <kCrVd.1212$WC1.859@tornado.fastwebnet.it>,
> fcaimiNOSPAM RemoveThis @fastwebnet.it says...
> > And how can I discover it? I mean, how I could understand if I've got
the B
> > or the C one?
> >
> > ...Now I just see that if I set it at 1200*133 it is unstable....at
1333*10
> > it is ok....but....If I do a simple application, temp increase up to
60°C
> > .....is it "bad"?
> > Which is the Critical Temperature that it could support?
> >
> > "Bill" <spamtrap RemoveThis @tinlc.lumbercartel.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
> > news:MPG.1c8fdcbd1398c56398968e@news.supernews.com...
> > > In article <AzpVd.94439$Th1.36908@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> > > "dawg" <don't look RemoveThis @worldnet.att.net> says...
> > >> 1400's actualy ran at 1.4ghz. 133 x 10.5
> > >>
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > I seem to remember the "B" model ran at 14x100. The "C" ran at 10.5
> > > x133.
> > >
> > > Bill
> >
> >
> >
>
> On the top of the processor, < wipe off the heat paste and get your
> magnifying glass out > there is a line of numbers that goes like:
>
> A1400XXXXB or A1400XXXXC B for the 100FSB and C for the 133 FSB.
>
> This was nice enough to bookmark:
>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.thedigerati.us/info/amdcpuchart.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.thedigerati.us/info/amdcpuchart.html</font</a>>
>
> Scroll down to AMD Thunderbirds/ Model 4. Max Temp on die is 95C, but
> since you're not measuring the die temp I wouldn't let it get past 65C
> indicated. I seem to remember mine got flaky above that temp.
>
> Bill
Hmm my ADM TB is getting up to 72c in the summerdays... runs smooth though,
I'm using a C version btw .
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:36 pm
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In article <112fggcmkknb158 DeleteThis @corp.supernews.com>,
bjojk DeleteThis @nospam.dekrijger.demon.nl says...
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> "Bill" <spamtrap DeleteThis @tinlc.lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1c900adc29960985989690@news.supernews.com...
> > In article <kCrVd.1212$WC1.859@tornado.fastwebnet.it>,
> > fcaimiNOSPAM DeleteThis @fastwebnet.it says...
> > > And how can I discover it? I mean, how I could understand if I've got
> the B
> > > or the C one?
> > >
> > > ...Now I just see that if I set it at 1200*133 it is unstable....at
> 1333*10
> > > it is ok....but....If I do a simple application, temp increase up to
> 60°C
> > > .....is it "bad"?
> > > Which is the Critical Temperature that it could support?
> > >
> > > "Bill" <spamtrap DeleteThis @tinlc.lumbercartel.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
> > > news:MPG.1c8fdcbd1398c56398968e@news.supernews.com...
> > > > In article <AzpVd.94439$Th1.36908@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> > > > "dawg" <don't look DeleteThis @worldnet.att.net> says...
> > > >> 1400's actualy ran at 1.4ghz. 133 x 10.5
> > > >>
> > > > <snip>
> > > >
> > > > I seem to remember the "B" model ran at 14x100. The "C" ran at 10.5
> > > > x133.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > On the top of the processor, < wipe off the heat paste and get your
> > magnifying glass out > there is a line of numbers that goes like:
> >
> > A1400XXXXB or A1400XXXXC B for the 100FSB and C for the 133 FSB.
> >
> > This was nice enough to bookmark:
> >
<font color=green> > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.thedigerati.us/info/amdcpuchart.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.thedigerati.us/info/amdcpuchart.html</font</a>>
> >
> > Scroll down to AMD Thunderbirds/ Model 4. Max Temp on die is 95C, but
> > since you're not measuring the die temp I wouldn't let it get past 65C
> > indicated. I seem to remember mine got flaky above that temp.
> >
> > Bill
>
> Hmm my ADM TB is getting up to 72c in the summerdays... runs smooth though,
> I'm using a C version btw .
>
Ya, but how accurate is your measuring device for temp. If it's the
motherboard, who knows what the temp really is. As an old tech/QA guy,
if it wasn't measured with a calibrated meter with recent calibration
sticker on it then I don't trust it. 72C on your board might be the
same as 63C on mine and might really be 71C when measured with the
meter. That'd make you only one degree high, which is erring on the
good side, and mine eight degrees low erring on the bad side.
I use the bios temp as a ball park, crank it up 'till I get errors,
then back off a bit 'till it's stable again. YMMV.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:35 am
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"Bill" <spamtrap.DeleteThis@tinlc.lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
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> Ya, but how accurate is your measuring device for temp. If it's the
> motherboard, who knows what the temp really is. As an old tech/QA guy,
> if it wasn't measured with a calibrated meter with recent calibration
> sticker on it then I don't trust it. 72C on your board might be the
> same as 63C on mine and might really be 71C when measured with the
> meter. That'd make you only one degree high, which is erring on the
> good side, and mine eight degrees low erring on the bad side.
>
> I use the bios temp as a ball park, crank it up 'till I get errors,
> then back off a bit 'till it's stable again. YMMV.
>
> Bill
Bios is showing that to me ... and my pc automatically turns off if it
reaches 75c... anyway, I don't have problems with instability and also
never OC'd it yet... and not planning too either .
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:35 pm
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How Could I discover which model I'm using?
Is it strictly necessary to remove the fan?
......
Bye
"Bill" <spamtrap RemoveThis @tinlc.lumbercartel.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> In article <AzpVd.94439$Th1.36908@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> "dawg" <don't look RemoveThis @worldnet.att.net> says...
>> 1400's actualy ran at 1.4ghz. 133 x 10.5
>>
> <snip>
>
> I seem to remember the "B" model ran at 14x100. The "C" ran at 10.5
> x133.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:35 pm
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On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 22:55:58 +0100, Ippus wrote:
> "Bill" <spamtrap.TakeThisOut@tinlc.lumbercartel.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:MPG.1c8fdcbd1398c56398968e@news.supernews.com...
>> In article <AzpVd.94439$Th1.36908@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>> "dawg" <don't look.TakeThisOut@worldnet.att.net> says...
>>> 1400's actualy ran at 1.4ghz. 133 x 10.5
>>>
>> I seem to remember the "B" model ran at 14x100. The "C" ran at 10.5
>> x133.
>>
> How Could I discover which model I'm using?
> Is it strictly necessary to remove the fan?
>
Depends on which Mb you have and how much you understand, otherwise, yes.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 9:35 am
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ABIT KG7 and I understand a lot
However, it doesn't really matter because I've found that it's stable at
50°C @1333 Mhz (133 x 10) and 56 °C working.....
In other I've recently changed my graphic card (I've changed a GeForce2
MX400 for an ATI Radeon 9200) and CPU temperature had decreased a lot....I
know, CPU temp isn't strictly related with GPU temp....but in a closed case
a hot card increase the temperature inside it and keeping it cold is more
difficult....
....
however......
......
nevermind......
Thanks.
"Wes Newell" <w.newell.RemoveThis@TAKEOUTverizon.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> On Sun, 06 Mar 2005 22:55:58 +0100, Ippus wrote:
>
>> "Bill" <spamtrap.RemoveThis@tinlc.lumbercartel.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
>> news:MPG.1c8fdcbd1398c56398968e@news.supernews.com...
>>> In article <AzpVd.94439$Th1.36908@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>>> "dawg" <don't look.RemoveThis@worldnet.att.net> says...
>>>> 1400's actualy ran at 1.4ghz. 133 x 10.5
>>>>
>>> I seem to remember the "B" model ran at 14x100. The "C" ran at 10.5
>>> x133.
>>>
>> How Could I discover which model I'm using?
>> Is it strictly necessary to remove the fan?
>>
> Depends on which Mb you have and how much you understand, otherwise, yes.
>
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2005 12:35 pm
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"Nope" <fcaimi_82-NOSPAM DeleteThis @libero.it> wrote in message
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> ABIT KG7 and I understand a lot
> However, it doesn't really matter because I've found that it's stable at
> 50°C @1333 Mhz (133 x 10) and 56 °C working.....
> In other I've recently changed my graphic card (I've changed a GeForce2
> MX400 for an ATI Radeon 9200) and CPU temperature had decreased a lot....I
> know, CPU temp isn't strictly related with GPU temp....but in a closed
> case a hot card increase the temperature inside it and keeping it cold is
> more difficult....
> ...
> however......
> .....
> nevermind......
>
> Thanks.
>
if you can run at 10*133 you should be able to run at 10.5*133 which is the
correct setting for an athlon 1400 thunderbird. as for keeping you case
cooler I have a couple suggestions. First make sure you have at least 1
exhaust fan in back of the computer .. other than the one on the
powersupply. Second a front intake fan of the same size, as the exhaust fan.
third concider getting a slot fan to cool your video card. I suggest the
Vantec Slot Fan, it's different than standard ones in that insteas of a
blower type that moves very little air (15 cfm) out the back of the
computer, it has two 70 mm fans that move 45 cfm of air and circulates the
air inside the case, eliminating the problem of hot air building up in one
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