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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:32 pm
Post subject: Install an IDE harddrive on a SATA Motherboard??
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Hi all:
It's been several years since I've messed with the insides of my
computer, so I'm kinda out of date.
Anyway, the motherboard I'm looking at for a new computer build has 4
SATA connectors and 1 IDE connector. I'll buy a new SATA harddrive
for the boot drive but I have an IDE drive with *lots* of data on it
that I'd like to install too. This may be an elementary question, but
I *assume* I can install an optical drive and my old IDE drive on the
one IDE connection on the motherboard and that'll work OK so I can
transfer data and use the IDE for backup. Can't see why this wouldn't
work but I thought I should ask before committing to going this route.
TIA
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:15 pm
Post subject: Re: Install an IDE harddrive on a SATA Motherboard?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Jul 10, 12:45 am, "Travis McGee" <noth... RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
> "TomYoung" <tgyo... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Can't see why this wouldn't
>
> > work but I thought I should ask before committing to going this route.
>
> The onlw way this won't work, if the mobo in question has flaky drivers that
> won't allow booting from sata. You might check that out.
can you elaborate?
i've seen a few boards, and , like IDE, SATA doesn't need drivers at
all.
You tell the BIOS what drive to boot from.
I think I may have heard that many of these boards are only RAID..
There are some issues related to RAID (IDE or SATA), and installing
windows xp (or nt i guess).. pressing F5.. (it could be you only have
to do that if installing windows on the RAID drive(s). ) If you
aren't, then i think you can let the RAID drives get detected in
windows. Regarding pressing F5.. it asks you for a floppy with the
MBRD's SATA RAID driver.. I think you can use a CD (perhaps has to be
windows cd.. but add the driver to a certain directory), or you can
use a USB floppy drive. I guess either way, you need SATA RAID
Drivers.. They are just part and parcel with the MBRD drivers.. And
maybe the drivers are only for Windows NT to write to the drive. I
think you can still boot from the drive without the drivers.
And by the way.. I think this is for RAID. Non-RAID doesn't need
drivers.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:56 pm
Post subject: Re: Install an IDE harddrive on a SATA Motherboard?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"TomYoung" <tgyoung RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Can't see why this wouldn't
> work but I thought I should ask before committing to going this route.
>
The onlw way this won't work, if the mobo in question has flaky drivers that
won't allow booting from sata. You might check that out. >> Stay informed about: Install an IDE harddrive on a SATA Motherboard?? |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Install an IDE harddrive on a SATA Motherboard?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"TomYoung" <tgyoung DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all:
>
> It's been several years since I've messed with the insides of my
> computer, so I'm kinda out of date.
>
> Anyway, the motherboard I'm looking at for a new computer build has 4
> SATA connectors and 1 IDE connector. I'll buy a new SATA harddrive
> for the boot drive but I have an IDE drive with *lots* of data on it
> that I'd like to install too. This may be an elementary question, but
> I *assume* I can install an optical drive and my old IDE drive on the
> one IDE connection on the motherboard and that'll work OK so I can
> transfer data and use the IDE for backup. Can't see why this wouldn't
> work but I thought I should ask before committing to going this route.
>
> TIA
>
> Tom Young
>
that should work fine assuming its an 80-wire IDE cable you're using.
be sure to download all SATA drivers from the mobo manufacturers website
and put them on floppy disk just in case they're needed during the install.
On my mobo a SATA I drive installs smoothly with WinXP +SP2 but a SATA II
needs
drivers. >> Stay informed about: Install an IDE harddrive on a SATA Motherboard?? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:27 pm
Post subject: Re: Install an IDE harddrive on a SATA Motherboard?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Jul 10, 6:06 am, "Sleepy" <nos....RemoveThis@here.com> wrote:
> "TomYoung" <tgyo....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:1184023920.434981.143920@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
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>
>
>
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> > Hi all:
>
> > It's been several years since I've messed with the insides of my
> > computer, so I'm kinda out of date.
>
> > Anyway, the motherboard I'm looking at for a new computer build has 4
> > SATA connectors and 1 IDE connector. I'll buy a new SATA harddrive
> > for the boot drive but I have an IDE drive with *lots* of data on it
> > that I'd like to install too. This may be an elementary question, but
> > I *assume* I can install an optical drive and my old IDE drive on the
> > one IDE connection on the motherboard and that'll work OK so I can
> > transfer data and use the IDE for backup. Can't see why this wouldn't
> > work but I thought I should ask before committing to going this route.
>
> > TIA
>
> > Tom Young
>
> that should work fine assuming its an 80-wire IDE cable you're using.
> be sure to download all SATA drivers from the mobo manufacturers website
> and put them on floppy disk just in case they're needed during the install.
> On my mobo a SATA I drive installs smoothly with WinXP +SP2 but a SATA II
> needs
> drivers.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
It doesn't seem to be working, though I think it should.
M/B is SATA 2.0 specifications and boots fine from SATA drive with
Windows Vista installed and an IDE optical drive, jumpered Cable
Select, connected to end connector of an 80-wire IDE cable. When I
install the IDE HD to the middle connector (configured with Win XP,
jumpered Cable Select) the BIOS recognizes it OK, though it indicates
boot order as: Optical drive, IDE drive, SATA drive. I can change
boot order to start with the SATA drive, but computer will not boot.
I get a brief flash of Blue Screen and then the message that a
software or hardware change has caused the computer not to boot. No
option presented - start windows normally, start from last known good
boot, etc. - will get it to boot.
Went back and changed jumpers on the optical drive to master and the
IDE drive to slave, but same thing happens. I suppose I could keep
trying all the permutations of device to connectors and jumper
settings, but maybe someone can give me a clue here?
TIA.
Tom Young >> Stay informed about: Install an IDE harddrive on a SATA Motherboard?? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:00 pm
Post subject: Re: Install an IDE harddrive on a SATA Motherboard?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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You can transfer data and audio files, but you cannot transfer Programs that
way. You would need to install the programs poperly from the CD and then
transfer associated data files.
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"TomYoung" <tgyoung.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184023920.434981.143920@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Hi all:
>
> It's been several years since I've messed with the insides of my
> computer, so I'm kinda out of date.
>
> Anyway, the motherboard I'm looking at for a new computer build has 4
> SATA connectors and 1 IDE connector. I'll buy a new SATA harddrive
> for the boot drive but I have an IDE drive with *lots* of data on it
> that I'd like to install too. This may be an elementary question, but
> I *assume* I can install an optical drive and my old IDE drive on the
> one IDE connection on the motherboard and that'll work OK so I can
> transfer data and use the IDE for backup. Can't see why this wouldn't
> work but I thought I should ask before committing to going this route.
>
> TIA
>
> Tom Young
> >> Stay informed about: Install an IDE harddrive on a SATA Motherboard?? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:16 pm
Post subject: Re: Install an IDE harddrive on a SATA Motherboard?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Jul 10, 2:54 pm, "Sleepy" <nos....DeleteThis@here.com> wrote:
> "TomYoung" <tgyo....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> news:1184099262.059544.166400@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
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>
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> > On Jul 10, 6:06 am, "Sleepy" <nos....DeleteThis@here.com> wrote:
> >> "TomYoung" <tgyo....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1184023920.434981.143920@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > Hi all:
>
> >> > It's been several years since I've messed with the insides of my
> >> > computer, so I'm kinda out of date.
>
> >> > Anyway, the motherboard I'm looking at for a new computer build has 4
> >> > SATA connectors and 1 IDE connector. I'll buy a new SATA harddrive
> >> > for the boot drive but I have an IDE drive with *lots* of data on it
> >> > that I'd like to install too. This may be an elementary question, but
> >> > I *assume* I can install an optical drive and my old IDE drive on the
> >> > one IDE connection on the motherboard and that'll work OK so I can
> >> > transfer data and use the IDE for backup. Can't see why this wouldn't
> >> > work but I thought I should ask before committing to going this route.
>
> >> > TIA
>
> >> > Tom Young
>
> >> that should work fine assuming its an 80-wire IDE cable you're using.
> >> be sure to download all SATA drivers from the mobo manufacturers website
> >> and put them on floppy disk just in case they're needed during the
> >> install.
> >> On my mobo a SATA I drive installs smoothly with WinXP +SP2 but a SATA II
> >> needs
> >> drivers.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > It doesn't seem to be working, though I think it should.
>
> > M/B is SATA 2.0 specifications and boots fine from SATA drive with
> > Windows Vista installed and an IDE optical drive, jumpered Cable
> > Select, connected to end connector of an 80-wire IDE cable. When I
> > install the IDE HD to the middle connector (configured with Win XP,
> > jumpered Cable Select) the BIOS recognizes it OK, though it indicates
> > boot order as: Optical drive, IDE drive, SATA drive. I can change
> > boot order to start with the SATA drive, but computer will not boot.
> > I get a brief flash of Blue Screen and then the message that a
> > software or hardware change has caused the computer not to boot. No
> > option presented - start windows normally, start from last known good
> > boot, etc. - will get it to boot.
>
> > Went back and changed jumpers on the optical drive to master and the
> > IDE drive to slave, but same thing happens. I suppose I could keep
> > trying all the permutations of device to connectors and jumper
> > settings, but maybe someone can give me a clue here?
>
> > TIA.
>
> > Tom Young
>
> firstly I never use 'cable select' - always configure optical drive as slave
> and hdd as master.
> there's always someway to alter the boot order and select which hdd to boot
> from so take another look at the bios and refer to the mobo manual too.
> without knowing your mobo its impossible to be more specific.
>
>
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> - Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
You're right. I was mis-reading what the BIOS was telling me and even
though I thought I was setting it to boot from the SATA drive it
surely was trying to boot from the IDE HD. I set the IDE HD to slave
and the optical drive to master, got the BIOS set correctly and BOOT!!
I probably should change the master/slave relationship (can't there be
performance problems with my setup?) but for the moment I'm happy to
be able to get my data back.
Thanks for the help.
Tom Young >> Stay informed about: Install an IDE harddrive on a SATA Motherboard?? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 6:58 pm
Post subject: Re: Install an IDE harddrive on a SATA Motherboard?? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"TomYoung" <tgyoung DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184099262.059544.166400@o11g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 10, 6:06 am, "Sleepy" <nos... DeleteThis @here.com> wrote:
>> "TomYoung" <tgyo... DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1184023920.434981.143920@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi all:
>>
>> > It's been several years since I've messed with the insides of my
>> > computer, so I'm kinda out of date.
>>
>> > Anyway, the motherboard I'm looking at for a new computer build has 4
>> > SATA connectors and 1 IDE connector. I'll buy a new SATA harddrive
>> > for the boot drive but I have an IDE drive with *lots* of data on it
>> > that I'd like to install too. This may be an elementary question, but
>> > I *assume* I can install an optical drive and my old IDE drive on the
>> > one IDE connection on the motherboard and that'll work OK so I can
>> > transfer data and use the IDE for backup. Can't see why this wouldn't
>> > work but I thought I should ask before committing to going this route.
>>
>> > TIA
>>
>> > Tom Young
>>
>> that should work fine assuming its an 80-wire IDE cable you're using.
>> be sure to download all SATA drivers from the mobo manufacturers website
>> and put them on floppy disk just in case they're needed during the
>> install.
>> On my mobo a SATA I drive installs smoothly with WinXP +SP2 but a SATA II
>> needs
>> drivers.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> It doesn't seem to be working, though I think it should.
>
> M/B is SATA 2.0 specifications and boots fine from SATA drive with
> Windows Vista installed and an IDE optical drive, jumpered Cable
> Select, connected to end connector of an 80-wire IDE cable. When I
> install the IDE HD to the middle connector (configured with Win XP,
> jumpered Cable Select) the BIOS recognizes it OK, though it indicates
> boot order as: Optical drive, IDE drive, SATA drive. I can change
> boot order to start with the SATA drive, but computer will not boot.
> I get a brief flash of Blue Screen and then the message that a
> software or hardware change has caused the computer not to boot. No
> option presented - start windows normally, start from last known good
> boot, etc. - will get it to boot.
>
> Went back and changed jumpers on the optical drive to master and the
> IDE drive to slave, but same thing happens. I suppose I could keep
> trying all the permutations of device to connectors and jumper
> settings, but maybe someone can give me a clue here?
>
> TIA.
>
> Tom Young
firstly I never use 'cable select' - always configure optical drive as slave
and hdd as master.
there's always someway to alter the boot order and select which hdd to boot
from so take another look at the bios and refer to the mobo manual too.
without knowing your mobo its impossible to be more specific.
> >> Stay informed about: Install an IDE harddrive on a SATA Motherboard?? |
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