Installing 9800 card

"david bazley" <david.bazley.RemoveThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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 > Have just slotted in new ATI 9800 Pro card, which was easy, but now my PC
 > will not boot up.
 > The immediate symptom is that when I switch on I then get an unfamiliar
two
 > initiating beebs instead of the ususal one beeb and the boot up process
 > stops.
 >
 > I don't know a lot about PCs but I think this may indicate that there is
 > something wrong in the power circuit. But my Power Unit is 350 watts which
I
 > assumed would be large enough to take care of the slight increase in load
 > caused by the little 9800 fan. I have checked out the continuity of the
 > power leads supplied with the 9800 card and they are OK.
 >
 > I have the old Matrox card back in now and that's working fine.
 >
 > Suggestions would be very welcome.

What the beeps mean will depend on your bios.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.romulus2.com/articles/guides/beeps/beeps.htm" target="_blank">http://www.romulus2.com/articles/guides/beeps/beeps.htm</a>

You may want to make sure the card was seated deep enough, so maybe try
again. Might also need to wiggle it *gently* in the slot. If you suspect
your new 9800 card is DOA, may want to see if a friend will let you plug it
into his PC to test it. Better yet, if the you bought it local and if they
have a test bench at the store, see if they can plug it in and verify it
works. Also you might want to do a search on google for your motherboard and
make sure there are no incompatibilities with your card, unlikely, but don't
rule it out. Good Luck!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Thanks guys for your helpful comments. So it probably isn't a power problem.
The web site that Sam Higgins gave me says that one long and two short beebs
(I think that's what I'm getting) indicates a video problem.
Anyway between posting my problem and seeing your replies I finally got thru
to the suppliers (Overclockers) and they straightway said "Send it back
immediately". Apparently this is by no means an uncommon problem. It looks
to me as if these cards can be a bit like temperamental prima donnas,
beautiful when they are performing but liable to a nervous breakdown on the
first night. So I am sending it back, will report later.

Baz


"david bazley" <david.bazley.DeleteThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:t4l%b.3161$Vv.535@newsfe2-gui.server.ntli.net...
 > Have just slotted in new ATI 9800 Pro card, which was easy, but now my PC
 > will not boot up.
 > The immediate symptom is that when I switch on I then get an unfamiliar
two
 > initiating beebs instead of the ususal one beeb and the boot up process
 > stops.
 >
 > I don't know a lot about PCs but I think this may indicate that there is
 > something wrong in the power circuit. But my Power Unit is 350 watts which
I
 > assumed would be large enough to take care of the slight increase in load
 > caused by the little 9800 fan. I have checked out the continuity of the
 > power leads supplied with the 9800 card and they are OK.
 >
 > I have the old Matrox card back in now and that's working fine.
 >
 > Suggestions would be very welcome.
 >
 > Baz
 >
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Before you send it back, you may want to try re-inserting it. If that
doesn't work, try clearing your bios. There should be a jumper on your
motherboard for it somewhere. That's what I had to do to get mine working.
I've had this happen on a lot of motherboards, but my AI7 needs it done when
I make any hardware changes, like sound card, memory and video card changes.

Gary

--
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"david bazley" <david.bazley RemoveThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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 > Thanks guys for your helpful comments. So it probably isn't a power
problem.
 > The web site that Sam Higgins gave me says that one long and two short
beebs
 > (I think that's what I'm getting) indicates a video problem.
 > Anyway between posting my problem and seeing your replies I finally got
thru
 > to the suppliers (Overclockers) and they straightway said "Send it back
 > immediately". Apparently this is by no means an uncommon problem. It
looks
 > to me as if these cards can be a bit like temperamental prima donnas,
 > beautiful when they are performing but liable to a nervous breakdown on
the
 > first night. So I am sending it back, will report later.
 >
 > Baz
 >
 >
 > "david bazley" <david.bazley RemoveThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
 > news:t4l%b.3161$Vv.535@newsfe2-gui.server.ntli.net...
  > > Have just slotted in new ATI 9800 Pro card, which was easy, but now my
PC
  > > will not boot up.
  > > The immediate symptom is that when I switch on I then get an unfamiliar
 > two
  > > initiating beebs instead of the ususal one beeb and the boot up process
  > > stops.
  > >
  > > I don't know a lot about PCs but I think this may indicate that there is
  > > something wrong in the power circuit. But my Power Unit is 350 watts
which
 > I
  > > assumed would be large enough to take care of the slight increase in
load
  > > caused by the little 9800 fan. I have checked out the continuity of the
  > > power leads supplied with the 9800 card and they are OK.
  > >
  > > I have the old Matrox card back in now and that's working fine.
  > >
  > > Suggestions would be very welcome.
  > >
  > > Baz
  > >
  > >
 >
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Did you connect the power connector to the vid card?
"GTX_SlotCar" <deroy.RemoveThis@maine.rr.com> wrote in message
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 > Before you send it back, you may want to try re-inserting it. If that
 > doesn't work, try clearing your bios. There should be a jumper on your
 > motherboard for it somewhere. That's what I had to do to get mine working.
 > I've had this happen on a lot of motherboards, but my AI7 needs it done
when
 > I make any hardware changes, like sound card, memory and video card
changes.
 >
 > Gary
 >
 > --
 > Tweaks & Reviews
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 >
 >
 > "david bazley" <david.bazley.RemoveThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
 > news:cBm%b.1165$44.862@newsfe1-win...
  > > Thanks guys for your helpful comments. So it probably isn't a power
 > problem.
  > > The web site that Sam Higgins gave me says that one long and two short
 > beebs
  > > (I think that's what I'm getting) indicates a video problem.
  > > Anyway between posting my problem and seeing your replies I finally got
 > thru
  > > to the suppliers (Overclockers) and they straightway said "Send it back
  > > immediately". Apparently this is by no means an uncommon problem. It
 > looks
  > > to me as if these cards can be a bit like temperamental prima donnas,
  > > beautiful when they are performing but liable to a nervous breakdown on
 > the
  > > first night. So I am sending it back, will report later.
  > >
  > > Baz
  > >
  > >
  > > "david bazley" <david.bazley.RemoveThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
  > > news:t4l%b.3161$Vv.535@newsfe2-gui.server.ntli.net...
   > > > Have just slotted in new ATI 9800 Pro card, which was easy, but now my
 > PC
   > > > will not boot up.
   > > > The immediate symptom is that when I switch on I then get an
unfamiliar
  > > two
   > > > initiating beebs instead of the ususal one beeb and the boot up
process
   > > > stops.
   > > >
   > > > I don't know a lot about PCs but I think this may indicate that there
is
   > > > something wrong in the power circuit. But my Power Unit is 350 watts
 > which
  > > I
   > > > assumed would be large enough to take care of the slight increase in
 > load
   > > > caused by the little 9800 fan. I have checked out the continuity of
the
   > > > power leads supplied with the 9800 card and they are OK.
   > > >
   > > > I have the old Matrox card back in now and that's working fine.
   > > >
   > > > Suggestions would be very welcome.
   > > >
   > > > Baz
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
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"david bazley" <david.bazley.TakeThisOut@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<t4l%b.3161$Vv.535@newsfe2-gui.server.ntli.net>...
 > Have just slotted in new ATI 9800 Pro card, which was easy, but now my PC
 > will not boot up.
 > The immediate symptom is that when I switch on I then get an unfamiliar two
 > initiating beebs instead of the ususal one beeb and the boot up process
 > stops.
 >
 > I don't know a lot about PCs but I think this may indicate that there is
 > something wrong in the power circuit. But my Power Unit is 350 watts which I
 > assumed would be large enough to take care of the slight increase in load
 > caused by the little 9800 fan. I have checked out the continuity of the
 > power leads supplied with the 9800 card and they are OK.
 >
 > I have the old Matrox card back in now and that's working fine.
 >
 > Suggestions would be very welcome.
 >
 > Baz

What kind of motherboard do you have... I think you got a motherboard
unable to take the card.

Why you ask?

Well voltage, old motherboards only can provide 3,3v or even 5v to the
AGP interface, this is what old cards used to run on, but newer cards
run on 1,5v or 0,8v this of course due to keep the heat lower ( since
it's going faster over the new busses )

Unless you have a nice matching motherboard with your 8x AGP card it
won't work. Most AGP4x motherboards for instance will have no problems
with your card.

So yes, upgrading your motherboard, memory and processor is probably
required.

Anyhow tell us what kind of you have now.

By the way 350W says nothing....what matters with PSU is how much
juice they can push EVERYDAY, not how much juice they can push for 1
mere minute.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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If you leave both video cards out do you get the same beep pattern.

Andi.



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"CzarKasM" <Nunya DeleteThis @biz.niz> wrote in message
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 > Did you connect the power connector to the vid card?
 > "GTX_SlotCar" <deroy DeleteThis @maine.rr.com> wrote in message
 > news:c1kvlm$1kkgr9$1@ID-153646.news.uni-berlin.de...
  > > Before you send it back, you may want to try re-inserting it. If that
  > > doesn't work, try clearing your bios. There should be a jumper on your
  > > motherboard for it somewhere. That's what I had to do to get mine
working.
  > > I've had this happen on a lot of motherboards, but my AI7 needs it done
 > when
  > > I make any hardware changes, like sound card, memory and video card
 > changes.
  > >
  > > Gary
  > >
  > > --
  > > Tweaks & Reviews
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.slottweak.com</font" target="_blank">www.slottweak.com</font</a>>
  > >
  > >
  > > "david bazley" <david.bazley DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
  > > news:cBm%b.1165$44.862@newsfe1-win...
   > > > Thanks guys for your helpful comments. So it probably isn't a power
  > > problem.
   > > > The web site that Sam Higgins gave me says that one long and two short
  > > beebs
   > > > (I think that's what I'm getting) indicates a video problem.
   > > > Anyway between posting my problem and seeing your replies I finally
got
  > > thru
   > > > to the suppliers (Overclockers) and they straightway said "Send it
back
   > > > immediately". Apparently this is by no means an uncommon problem. It
  > > looks
   > > > to me as if these cards can be a bit like temperamental prima donnas,
   > > > beautiful when they are performing but liable to a nervous breakdown
on
  > > the
   > > > first night. So I am sending it back, will report later.
   > > >
   > > > Baz
   > > >
   > > >
   > > > "david bazley" <david.bazley DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
   > > > news:t4l%b.3161$Vv.535@newsfe2-gui.server.ntli.net...
   > > > > Have just slotted in new ATI 9800 Pro card, which was easy, but now
my
  > > PC
   > > > > will not boot up.
   > > > > The immediate symptom is that when I switch on I then get an
 > unfamiliar
   > > > two
   > > > > initiating beebs instead of the ususal one beeb and the boot up
 > process
   > > > > stops.
   > > > >
   > > > > I don't know a lot about PCs but I think this may indicate that
there
 > is
   > > > > something wrong in the power circuit. But my Power Unit is 350 watts
  > > which
   > > > I
   > > > > assumed would be large enough to take care of the slight increase in
  > > load
   > > > > caused by the little 9800 fan. I have checked out the continuity of
 > the
   > > > > power leads supplied with the 9800 card and they are OK.
   > > > >
   > > > > I have the old Matrox card back in now and that's working fine.
   > > > >
   > > > > Suggestions would be very welcome.
   > > > >
   > > > > Baz
   > > > >
   > > > >
   > > >
   > > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:16:25 -0600, "CzarKasM" <Nunya RemoveThis @biz.niz> wrote:

||Did you connect the power connector to the vid card?

I second this idea..
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 11:52:07 -0000, "david bazley"
<david.bazley RemoveThis @ntlworld.com> wrote:

 >Have just slotted in new ATI 9800 Pro card, which was easy, but now my PC
 >will not boot up.
 >The immediate symptom is that when I switch on I then get an unfamiliar two
 >initiating beebs instead of the ususal one beeb and the boot up process
 >stops.
 >
 >I don't know a lot about PCs but I think this may indicate that there is
 >something wrong in the power circuit. But my Power Unit is 350 watts which I
 >assumed would be large enough to take care of the slight increase in load
 >caused by the little 9800 fan. I have checked out the continuity of the
 >power leads supplied with the 9800 card and they are OK.
 >
 >I have the old Matrox card back in now and that's working fine.
 >
 >Suggestions would be very welcome.
 >
 >Baz
 >
 >

1. Did you connect up the supplementary power connector ?

2. Is your power-supply capable of at least 15 amps on the
+12Volt rail ? Read the sticker on the power-supply. No sticker-
replace power-supply with current ATX model from
a reputable manufacturer. You may be able to get away
with less current on the +12V rail if your motherboard
is a very old one and does not derive CPU core voltages
from +12Volts. However, the 9800 requires ~ 7 amps
peak from the +12volt rail.

John Lewis<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Thanks for the additional suggestions. Yes of course I checked the power
connector on the card, I may not be very knowledgable on PCs but give me
some credit And I did check that it was correctly seated. Anyway the card
is now on its way back.
Dark Avenger suggests incompatibility between mother and new 9800 card. Well
I really wouldn't know, I can only tell you that my mother board is two
years old: its called a PlatiniX 2 with a Intel 845 chipset, so I hope
that's OK.
Will keep you posted on second card when received.

Thanks for all the help.

Baz


"david bazley" <david.bazley DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:t4l%b.3161$Vv.535@newsfe2-gui.server.ntli.net...
 > Have just slotted in new ATI 9800 Pro card, which was easy, but now my PC
 > will not boot up.
 > The immediate symptom is that when I switch on I then get an unfamiliar
two
 > initiating beebs instead of the ususal one beeb and the boot up process
 > stops.
 >
 > I don't know a lot about PCs but I think this may indicate that there is
 > something wrong in the power circuit. But my Power Unit is 350 watts which
I
 > assumed would be large enough to take care of the slight increase in load
 > caused by the little 9800 fan. I have checked out the continuity of the
 > power leads supplied with the 9800 card and they are OK.
 >
 > I have the old Matrox card back in now and that's working fine.
 >
 > Suggestions would be very welcome.
 >
 > Baz
 >
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If you have an 'inexpensive' 350 Watt power supply, you probably do NOT have
enough power available in your system to run the 9800. Inexpensive power
supplies do NOT put out anywhere near their 'rated' power continuously in
the real world.
Get a good name brand 400 Watt power supply, like an Antec.

--
DaveW



"david bazley" <david.bazley.RemoveThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:t4l%b.3161$Vv.535@newsfe2-gui.server.ntli.net...
 > Have just slotted in new ATI 9800 Pro card, which was easy, but now my PC
 > will not boot up.
 > The immediate symptom is that when I switch on I then get an unfamiliar
two
 > initiating beebs instead of the ususal one beeb and the boot up process
 > stops.
 >
 > I don't know a lot about PCs but I think this may indicate that there is
 > something wrong in the power circuit. But my Power Unit is 350 watts which
I
 > assumed would be large enough to take care of the slight increase in load
 > caused by the little 9800 fan. I have checked out the continuity of the
 > power leads supplied with the 9800 card and they are OK.
 >
 > I have the old Matrox card back in now and that's working fine.
 >
 > Suggestions would be very welcome.
 >
 > Baz
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Installing 9800 card 

I cant even begin to tell you how important a "good" power supply is. About
2 years ago, I was building a pc for my mother, and I didnt have any
problems except for the vid card (geforce 3 ti500). I was one of those
folks that figured a power supply was a power supply just as long as the
watts seemed to be enough, well, after having all the problems with the vid
card, and actually replacing every single piece in the new computer except
for the power supply, it still locked up, and I had a 400 watt generic power
supply. I finally broke down and spent $90 on an enermax power supply, and
guess what, the problems went away and have never reappeared. So, learn
from my mistakes and dont skimp on the power supply, it'll save you tons of
heart ache in the long run.
"DaveW" <none DeleteThis @zero.org> wrote in message
news:gkw%b.65573$Xp.310400@attbi_s54...
 > If you have an 'inexpensive' 350 Watt power supply, you probably do NOT
have
 > enough power available in your system to run the 9800. Inexpensive power
 > supplies do NOT put out anywhere near their 'rated' power continuously in
 > the real world.
 > Get a good name brand 400 Watt power supply, like an Antec.
 >
 > --
 > DaveW
 >
 >
 >
 > "david bazley" <david.bazley DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message
 > news:t4l%b.3161$Vv.535@newsfe2-gui.server.ntli.net...
  > > Have just slotted in new ATI 9800 Pro card, which was easy, but now my
PC
  > > will not boot up.
  > > The immediate symptom is that when I switch on I then get an unfamiliar
 > two
  > > initiating beebs instead of the ususal one beeb and the boot up process
  > > stops.
  > >
  > > I don't know a lot about PCs but I think this may indicate that there is
  > > something wrong in the power circuit. But my Power Unit is 350 watts
which
 > I
  > > assumed would be large enough to take care of the slight increase in
load
  > > caused by the little 9800 fan. I have checked out the continuity of the
  > > power leads supplied with the 9800 card and they are OK.
  > >
  > > I have the old Matrox card back in now and that's working fine.
  > >
  > > Suggestions would be very welcome.
  > >
  > > Baz
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On 26 Feb 2004 13:51:43 -0800, superxml.DeleteThis@yahoo.com (Dark Avenger)
wrote:


 >
 >What kind of motherboard do you have... I think you got a motherboard
 >unable to take the card.
 >
 >Why you ask?
 >
 >Well voltage, old motherboards only can provide 3,3v or even 5v to the
 >AGP interface, this is what old cards used to run on, but newer cards
 >run on 1,5v or 0,8v this of course due to keep the heat lower ( since
 >it's going faster over the new busses )
 >
 >Unless you have a nice matching motherboard with your 8x AGP card it
 >won't work. Most AGP4x motherboards for instance will have no problems
 >with your card.
 >
 >So yes, upgrading your motherboard, memory and processor is probably
 >required.
 >...


ah, yes.. the infinite upgrade

But aren't I hearing that there's a new PCI something or other video
slot (X times faster) coming out next quarter or so ?

Those fancy AGP whoopteedo-X marketed slots didn't last very long did
they ?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"CzarKasM" <Nunya.TakeThisOut@biz.niz> wrote in message
news:Qby%b.20210$hl6.7007@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
 > I cant even begin to tell you how important a "good" power supply is.
About
 > 2 years ago, I was building a pc for my mother, and I didnt have any
 > problems except for the vid card (geforce 3 ti500). I was one of those
 > folks that figured a power supply was a power supply just as long as the
 > watts seemed to be enough, well, after having all the problems with the
vid
 > card, and actually replacing every single piece in the new computer except
 > for the power supply, it still locked up, and I had a 400 watt generic
power
 > supply. I finally broke down and spent $90 on an enermax power supply,
and
 > guess what, the problems went away and have never reappeared. So, learn
 > from my mistakes and dont skimp on the power supply, it'll save you tons
of
 > heart ache in the long run.
 > "DaveW" <none.TakeThisOut@zero.org> wrote in message

I agree with that 100% Back a few years ago it really didn't matter so much
about what PS you had. But today with video card that pull a lot of juice,
plus dual HD's and all the rest it is vital to have a name brand quality PS.
I read so many posts about major problems that where solved by just spending
a little extra, and getting a good PS. All kinds of weird things can happen
to your component if there not getting enough power. JLC<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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