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MachineMessiah

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:58 pm
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Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570
SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more
reliable or is it better to wait a few months?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

MachineMessiah wrote: > Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570 > SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more > reliable or is it better to wait a few months? Now that months have passed, the Intel P965 is mature. Why not buy one of those, if waiting is a virtue ? If you must have the latest and greatest stuff, then expect to put a little extra effort into it. There are people in these forums, who have had access to P35 for a couple months. If there are any lessons to be learned, you'll find them here (try the "Intel" forum). http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/ An example thread... "Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3" May14/2007 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=144199 Paul >> Stay informed about: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:28 am Post subject: Re: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <f6hols$80u$1@aioe.org>, nospam.TakeThisOut@needed.com says... > MachineMessiah wrote: > > Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570 > > SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more > > reliable or is it better to wait a few months? > > Now that months have passed, the Intel P965 is mature. Why not > buy one of those, if waiting is a virtue ? > > If you must have the latest and greatest stuff, then expect to put > a little extra effort into it. > > There are people in these forums, who have had access to P35 for a > couple months. If there are any lessons to be learned, you'll find > them here (try the "Intel" forum). > > http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/ > > An example thread... > > "Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3" May14/2007 > http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=144199 > > Paul > Thanks We were looking at the asus P5K w/o the deluxe. Not really into latest and greatest so much as hubby wants good gaming rig. Need something that has 2 pci express x16 and takes 667 1.8v ram. I build 2 P4 machines for myself, northwod & prescott with intel chip sets. -- >> Stay informed about: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:33 am Post subject: Re: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

MachineMessiah wrote: > Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570 > SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more > reliable or is it better to wait a few months? http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-p5k-deluxe-ov...lock.ht New chipsets always have quirks. That's the price for having bleeding edge gear. Some P35 based boards use DDR2, some DDR3. The upcoming Asus P5KC can use either. The Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Rev3.3, GA-965P-DQ6, Asus Striker Extreme, and Asus P5B Deluxe are all quality and refined motherboards. Motherboards based on the nForce 680i chipset did have issues related to SATA harddrives. Perhaps someone else can share their first hand experience. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=680i+%2B+sata+issues&btnG=Search >> Stay informed about: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:52 am Post subject: Re: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

MachineMessiah wrote: > In article <f6hols$80u$1@aioe.org>, nospam RemoveThis @needed.com says... >> MachineMessiah wrote: >>> Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia >>> nForce 570 SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from >>> intel any more reliable or is it better to wait a few months? >> >> Now that months have passed, the Intel P965 is mature. Why not >> buy one of those, if waiting is a virtue ? >> >> If you must have the latest and greatest stuff, then expect to put >> a little extra effort into it. >> >> There are people in these forums, who have had access to P35 for a >> couple months. If there are any lessons to be learned, you'll find >> them here (try the "Intel" forum). >> >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/ >> >> An example thread... >> >> "Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3" >> May14/2007 >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=144199 >> >> Paul >> > Thanks > We were looking at the asus P5K w/o the deluxe. > Not really into latest and greatest so much as hubby wants good gaming > rig. Need something that has 2 pci express x16 and takes 667 1.8v ram. > I build 2 P4 machines for myself, northwod & prescott with intel chip > sets. http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/D975XBX2/index.htm -- Cheerz - Brownz http://www.brownz.org/ >> Stay informed about: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

MachineMessiah wrote: > > Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570 > SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more > reliable or is it better to wait a few months? Many people like to buy the newest/greatest new hardware. Keep in mind that such hardware is sold before all the bugs are worked. Motherboards have verion numbers, just like software does. Often it's best to wait 6 months before you become a BETA tester for the hew hardware. -- http://www.bootdisk.com/ >> Stay informed about: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:11 am Post subject: Re: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Paul" <nospam.RemoveThis@needed.com> wrote in message news:f6hols$80u$1@aioe.org... > MachineMessiah wrote: >> Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570 >> SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more >> reliable or is it better to wait a few months? > > Now that months have passed, the Intel P965 is mature. Why not > buy one of those, if waiting is a virtue ? > > If you must have the latest and greatest stuff, then expect to put > a little extra effort into it. > > There are people in these forums, who have had access to P35 for a > couple months. If there are any lessons to be learned, you'll find > them here (try the "Intel" forum). > > http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/ > > An example thread... > > "Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3" May14/2007 > http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=144199 > > Paul Hello Paul, On the second link you provided, there is a nice temp monitoring tool (the one with the blue screens). Any idea what it is or where I could find it? Thanks in advance. >> Stay informed about: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:11 am Post subject: Re: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

ElJerid wrote: > "Paul" <nospam RemoveThis @needed.com> wrote in message news:f6hols$80u$1@aioe.org... >> MachineMessiah wrote: >>> Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570 >>> SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more >>> reliable or is it better to wait a few months? >> Now that months have passed, the Intel P965 is mature. Why not >> buy one of those, if waiting is a virtue ? >> >> If you must have the latest and greatest stuff, then expect to put >> a little extra effort into it. >> >> There are people in these forums, who have had access to P35 for a >> couple months. If there are any lessons to be learned, you'll find >> them here (try the "Intel" forum). >> >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/ >> >> An example thread... >> >> "Asus P5K Deluxe - Intel P35 Bearlake + E6600 B1 / Q6600 B3" May14/2007 >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=144199 >> >> Paul > > Hello Paul, > On the second link you provided, there is a nice temp monitoring tool (the > one with the blue screens). Any idea what it is or where I could find it? > Thanks in advance. > > In the picture here, it says Asus AISuite, meaning it is some successor to Asus Probe/ProbeII. (Line wrapped manually, to please my USENET host.) http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K_Deluxe/results/Nautilus500/Q6600_...T1000UB 9x/889/StaticreadAUTO/333-555_5549_3-30-333_1.325-A-1.5-2.3-1.3-1.55-1.05/superpi-32m_dual.png On the Asus download page, you type "tools" instead of a motherboard model number, to get utilities listed. Versions of AiSuite are stored here. No idea what motherboards are supported, whether a superset of ones handled by Asus ProbeII or some truncated list of boards. ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/AiSuit/ ProbeII seems to be even bigger in size. ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/ProbeII_V10419b.zip Paul >> Stay informed about: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

>> Hello Paul, >> On the second link you provided, there is a nice temp monitoring tool >> (the one with the blue screens). Any idea what it is or where I could >> find it? >> Thanks in advance. > > In the picture here, it says Asus AISuite, meaning it is some successor to > Asus Probe/ProbeII. (Line wrapped manually, to please my USENET host.) > > http://fileshosts.com/intel/Asus/P5K_Deluxe/results/Nautilus500/Q6600_...T1000UB > > 9x/889/StaticreadAUTO/333-555_5549_3-30-333_1.325-A-1.5-2.3-1.3-1.55-1.05/superpi-32m_dual.png > > On the Asus download page, you type "tools" instead of a motherboard model > number, to get utilities listed. Versions of AiSuite are stored here. No > idea what motherboards are supported, whether a superset of ones handled > by Asus ProbeII or some truncated list of boards. > > ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/AiSuit/ > > ProbeII seems to be even bigger in size. > > ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/misc/utils/ProbeII_V10419b.zip > > Paul Thanks for the effort, Paul. I checked it out bu unfortunately, the AI Suite is indeed a new (very) extended version of Asus Probe ans runs only on motherboard versions starting from P5xx, and not on my "antique" P4C800 DL. Will be for my next upgrade... >> Stay informed about: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait? Thanks for the replies everybody! [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <f6i3bb$dns$4@news.albasani.net>, xxx.DeleteThis@yyy.invalid says... snip > > > The Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 Rev3.3, GA-965P-DQ6, Asus Striker Extreme, and > Asus P5B Deluxe are all quality and refined motherboards. > Asus Striker Extreme. Wow, that's some board. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asus-striker- extreme.html http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/asus_striker_extreme/ -- The solution is: Winrar and/or DvdDecrypter. Install the ac3 audio codec. >> Stay informed about: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"MachineMessiah" <Geoffthegodofbiscuits DeleteThis @cakeordeath.ne> wrote in message news:Tdydnfy6FOHSwxHbnZ2dnUVZ_u3inZ2d@giganews.com... > Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570 > SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more > reliable or is it better to wait a few months? Interesting reviews at Toms hardware on motherboards with the P35 chipset http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/05/pipe_dreams_six_p35-ddr3_mother...rds_com http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/19/eight_p35-ddr2_motherboards_compared/ The two points that stick in my mind from reading the reviews are: 1 It's a 'bridge' chipset. I don't know about you but that implies compromise to me so both types of RAM will run with the same chipset. I think of the motherboards that had two types of RAM sockets, or two CPU sockets etc. None of them seemed to hang around for long. 2 The crippled second PCI Express Graphics slot. I detect the deadly hand of the Marketing department here, does that mean a P36 is in the pipline to 'fix' that? Best Paul. >> Stay informed about: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject: Re: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

In article <f6ngpt$uca$1@news.albasani.net>, abuse RemoveThis @local.host says... > > "MachineMessiah" <Geoffthegodofbiscuits RemoveThis @cakeordeath.ne> wrote in message > news:Tdydnfy6FOHSwxHbnZ2dnUVZ_u3inZ2d@giganews.com... > > Got burned really bad buying a newly released chipset (nvidia nForce 570 > > SLI). Board is a monstrosity. Are new chipsets from intel any more > > reliable or is it better to wait a few months? > > > Interesting reviews at Toms hardware on motherboards with the P35 chipset > > http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/05/pipe_dreams_six_p35-ddr3_mother...rds_com > > http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/06/19/eight_p35-ddr2_motherboards_compared/ > > The two points that stick in my mind from reading the reviews are: > > 1 It's a 'bridge' chipset. I don't know about you but that implies > compromise to me so both types of RAM will run with the same chipset. I > think of the motherboards that had two types of RAM sockets, or two CPU > sockets etc. None of them seemed to hang around for long. > > 2 The crippled second PCI Express Graphics slot. > I detect the deadly hand of the Marketing department here, does that mean a > P36 is in the pipline to 'fix' that? > > Best > Paul. > > > Thanks for the reply. Think I'll pass on this one and go with nForce 650i or Intel p965. >> Stay informed about: Intel P35 chip set: buy now or wait?

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