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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:55 am
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© 2006 NewsMax.Com

Intel Unveils Details of New Chip Design

SAN FRANCISCO -- Hoping to leap ahead of smaller rival Advanced Micro
Devices Inc., Intel Corp. unveiled details of a next-generation chip
design that it claims will perform better - and consume less power -
than today's Pentium 4.

The technology, dubbed the "Core" microarchitecture, will start
shipping in the second half of 2006 in chips for notebook, desktop,
entertainment and server computers.

"We're going to ramp it like crazy and deliver it in volume," Pat
Gelsinger, senior vice president of Intel's Digital Enterprise Group,
said Tuesday. "As a result, it's a better product, and people buy
better products."

Intel's troubles have mounted over the past year as the Santa
Clara-based company has shuffled product plans, managed inventory
build ups and supply shortages and competed against AMD products that
some analysts say deliver performance that's superior to Intel chips.

Between the fourth quarter of 2005 and the same period of 2004, Intel
lost 5.3 points of market share to AMD, according to Mercury Research.
It remains - by far - the world's largest microprocessor company with
76.9 percent of the worldwide market at the end of 2005.

On Friday, Intel lowered its revenue forecast for the current quarter
after seeing weaker-than-expected demand and a "slight" share loss to
rivals.

During the semiannual Intel Developer Forum, Gelsinger demonstrated a
desktop chip based on the new microarchitecture. The processor,
code-named Conroe, delivers 40 percent better performance while
consuming 40 percent less power, he said.

"That's enough that you have a chance of beating the competition,"
said David Wu, an analyst with Global Crown Capital, said. "If it had
been a 20 percent improvement, you don't have enough to write home
about."


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:00 am
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:55 pm
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On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:24:02 GMT, kony <spam.DeleteThis@spam.com> wrote:

>I doubt they really
>"wanted" to push P4 past 110W, but perhaps better to do that
>than put out a successor before it's time, before it's
>ready.

110W is not all that much - about the power of a typical incandescent
light bulb.

Eventually we will have thermoelectric coolers built into the chip
carrier.


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:55 am
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On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 23:01:51 -0500, CBFalconer <cbfalconer.DeleteThis@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>> 110W is not all that much - about the power of a typical
>> incandescent light bulb.

>It all depends on your viewpoint. My house is blazing with light,
>supplied by compact fluorescents, none consuming over about 15
>watts.

So is mine. Amazing things.


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:55 pm
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On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 02:20:31 GMT, spam.DeleteThis@uce.gov (Bob) wrote:

>On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 00:24:02 GMT, kony <spam.DeleteThis@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>I doubt they really
>>"wanted" to push P4 past 110W, but perhaps better to do that
>>than put out a successor before it's time, before it's
>>ready.
>
>110W is not all that much - about the power of a typical incandescent
>light bulb.
>
>Eventually we will have thermoelectric coolers built into the chip
>carrier.

110W x 8, for the 8 celerons? Granted celeron uses less
than 110W, until that day they're ramped up that high (if
ever), but even so it all adds up. 110W is significant
because they are not yet (if ever) integrating
thermoelectric coolers. Getting rid of any given amount of
heat becomes more problematic because there is finite
expansion of heatsink size possible and nobody wants a loud
heatsink fan (save for a very silly teenagers).

If the heatsink continued to grow taller, it becomes a
significant mechanical stress, even if mounted to the case
wall behind the motherboard (through-board mounting), and in
shipment (remember that OEMs are always a large
consideration), such a large 'sink will flex the board as it
is mounted to the case wall even if only looser coupling to
the heatsink mount itself.

Increasing diameter of the heatsink pushes the power
smoothing components further away from the socket. Massive
numbers of large value ceramic or tantalum (or other solid
hybrid) capacitors become quite expensive, and nobody wants
to start mounting tall parts on the back side of a
motherboard for the obvious reasons. Intel has already
released preliminary information about on-carrier voltage
regulation but until we see that ship, how it will change
the landscape around the socket over the entire life (power
ramping) of any given family of CPU remains to be seen.

It's just much easier to air-cool a sub-80W CPU. You must
have some odd stores in your area if the typical light bulb
is 110W, around here it's considered 60 or 75W though as
much as possible I've been using compact fluorescents. I'd
put a full sized fluorescent above my workbench and
regretted it ever since, they flicker too much while the
compact ones are pretty good except for the slightly
greenish cast to the light (though that is getting better as
well but I can't bring myself to buy the premium priced
compacts when the generic ones do fine for a fraction of the
cost and eyes can acclimate to a given lighting hue fairly
well so long as it stays constant).
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:55 pm
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On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:50:50 GMT, kony <spam RemoveThis @spam.com> wrote:

>>>I doubt they really
>>>"wanted" to push P4 past 110W, but perhaps better to do that
>>>than put out a successor before it's time, before it's
>>>ready.

>>110W is not all that much - about the power of a typical incandescent
>>light bulb.

>>Eventually we will have thermoelectric coolers built into the chip
>>carrier.

>110W x 8, for the 8 celerons?

No. We were talking about ramping the new P4 up to 110W. I believe it
is at around 70W now.

>It's just much easier to air-cool a sub-80W CPU. You must
>have some odd stores in your area if the typical light bulb
>is 110W, around here it's considered 60 or 75W though as
>much as possible I've been using compact fluorescents.

I did not claim anything about the popularity of 100W bulbs only that
they are commonplace, like at WalMart.

>I can't bring myself to buy the premium priced
>compacts

Try Sam's Club.

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