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DaveC

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:13 am
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Averatec laptop backlight turns off after random lengths of time. Can still
see the dim images on the screen that behave normally to mouse inputs, so the
LCD is still alive.

I presume that the high-voltage PCB that runs the bulb is going bad. Is there
any chance that this is a virus or software bug that is causing the backlight
to turn off?

I Googled for this but nothing definitive came up.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:43 am
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DaveC wrote:
> I presume that the high-voltage PCB that runs the bulb is going bad. Is there
> any chance that this is a virus or software bug that is causing the backlight
> to turn off?

Not really. But it need not be the inverter at fault, it could easily
be a cabling issue. What model Averatec is this?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:35 am
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BTW, running Windows XP Pro.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:31 pm
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> Not really. But it need not be the inverter at fault, it could easily
> be a cabling issue. What model Averatec is this?

Model: 3200
Tilting the screen hinges back and forth does not start or stop the
phenomenon.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 3:32 pm
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> Model: 3200

Correction: Model 3280
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:04 pm
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> Not really. But it need not be the inverter at fault, it could easily
> be a cabling issue. What model Averatec is this?

Is the inverter circuit on the motherboard or is it on a separate PCB?

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:17 am
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More likely the CCFL tubes themselves, they are like a flouresecent
tube without the heater electrodes at the ends. A sign is the they
either start to flicker and the 'whites' become tinted in the
picture.

But the dc-dc inverter that steps the 12V supply up to around 1,800V
(1.8KV) could also be the cause but I'd go for the tubes first.

Have a peep here -: How to replace the backlight
http://www.dnd.utwente.nl/~grit/backlight/ccft.html Clicking the link
will open it in a new window.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:17 am
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:17:49 -0000, no DeleteThis @spam.invalid (Davy)
wrote:

>More likely the CCFL tubes themselves, they are like a flouresecent
>tube without the heater electrodes at the ends. A sign is the they
>either start to flicker and the 'whites' become tinted in the
>picture.
>
>But the dc-dc inverter that steps the 12V supply up to around 1,800V
>(1.8KV) could also be the cause but I'd go for the tubes first.
>
>Have a peep here -: How to replace the backlight
>http://www.dnd.utwente.nl/~grit/backlight/ccft.html Clicking the link
>will open it in a new window.
>
>Davy


Yes the CCFL tubes can fail, but they won't generally
exhibit the symptom the OP described if/when they do, to
work when turned on then fail outright, but then work again
later.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:44 am
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DaveC wrote:

> Averatec laptop backlight turns off after random lengths of time. Can still
> see the dim images on the screen that behave normally to mouse inputs, so the
> LCD is still alive.
>
> I presume that the high-voltage PCB that runs the bulb is going bad. Is there
> any chance that this is a virus or software bug that is causing the backlight
> to turn off?
>
> I Googled for this but nothing definitive came up.
>
> Thanks,

Loose connection / bad joint somewhere. Prodding about with an
insulated tool should narrow it down.

NT
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:08 am
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I was having an issue with a new LCD and inverter. The backlight still
wasnt functioning. Then someone told me about the "toggle switch" that
turns the backlight on or off when the lid is opened and closed. Supposed to
be near the keyboard. Maybe it has a short or isn't functioning.
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>> Not really. But it need not be the inverter at fault, it could easily
>> be a cabling issue. What model Averatec is this?
>
> Is the inverter circuit on the motherboard or is it on a separate PCB?
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:03 am
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DaveC wrote:

> > Not really. But it need not be the inverter at fault, it could easily
> > be a cabling issue. What model Averatec is this?
>
> Is the inverter circuit on the motherboard or is it on a separate PCB?

The inverter is always on a separate PCB in the upper half of the
laptop, because the HV wires need to be as short as possible (they
radiate EM noise, and they're also lossy).

Apart from the backlight switch issue mentioned by another poster, you
might have a heat issue on the inverter. I'd open up the screen half of
the laptop and let it run until it fails, then _carefully_ squirt
freeze spray on the inverter to locate the bad component.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:57 am
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Thus spake shockwa:

> I was having an issue with a new LCD and inverter. The backlight still
> wasnt functioning. Then someone told me about the "toggle switch" that
> turns the backlight on or off when the lid is opened and closed. Supposed to
> be near the keyboard. Maybe it has a short or isn't functioning.

What model is your laptop?

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:18 pm
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"DaveC" <me.RemoveThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Thus spake shockwa:
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>> I was having an issue with a new LCD and inverter. The backlight still
>> wasnt functioning. Then someone told me about the "toggle switch" that
>> turns the backlight on or off when the lid is opened and closed. Supposed
>> to
>> be near the keyboard. Maybe it has a short or isn't functioning.
>
> What model is your laptop?
>
> Thanks,
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It's a Fujitsu Lifebook S6210. Now my problem is I can't seem to find the
lid close(pin)switch. I've looked everywhere near the hinges, keyboard,
inverter, etc. Well thats my luck. See if you can find it with this pic I
took. http://home.pacbell.net/shockwa/images/laptop.jpg
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:18 pm
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shockwa wrote:

> It's a Fujitsu Lifebook S6210. Now my problem is I can't seem to find the
> lid close(pin)switch. I've looked everywhere near the hinges, keyboard,
> inverter, etc.

What makes you think it has one? Some laptops are magnetically
activated and there is no exposed switch.

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:02 am
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"Ian Singer" <iansinger RemoveThis @sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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>> It's a Fujitsu Lifebook S6210. Now my problem is I can't seem to find
>> the lid close(pin)switch. I've looked everywhere near the hinges,
>> keyboard, inverter, etc.
>
> What makes you think it has one? Some laptops are magnetically activated
> and there is no exposed switch.
> Ian Singer
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ok well I guess I wasn't specific enough. Where is the lid close magnetic
thingie? or
could it somehow be stuck in the close position because of removing the LCD.
I was aware it could be a magnetic switch, but where is
it on this model or one similar?
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