Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D

I used the 28-200 - it was ok, but really enjoy my canon 28-135 IS
lens...other than the 50mm 1.8, i don't use much else on my 300d.

"HeliPilot" <helipilot.RemoveThis@inorbit.com> wrote in message
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 > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
 > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
 > appreciated!
 >
 > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
 > that comes with the camera kit.
 >
 > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
 > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
 > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
 > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
 >
 > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
 >
 > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
 >
 > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
 > companion for the 300D"
 >
 > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
 >
 > Thank very much in advance<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

helipilot RemoveThis @inorbit.com (HeliPilot) wrote in
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 > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
 > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
 > appreciated!

Go for the 10D instead......much better camera, not as crippled as the
Rebel. It has better construction, and the sensor is made in Japan instead
of outsourced to third world countries like the Rebel's sensor.

 > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
 > that comes with the camera kit.

Horrible choice. The lens is slow as hell.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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I really like my 28-135 IS lens on my Rebel. Remember the actual focal
length is 1.6 times the lens - so the range of that lens is really
45-216mm. The kit lens is great for wide angle - but otherwise I'll use
the IS lens for everything else.

Don't bother with a lens longer than this unless you use a tripod. A
long 300mm lens sounds great, until camera shake blurs the long shots.
IS helps, but there are limits.

-Dave

HeliPilot wrote:
 >
 > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
 > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
 > appreciated!
 >
 > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
 > that comes with the camera kit.
 >
 > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
 > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
 > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
 > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
 >
 > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
 >
 > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
 >
 > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
 > companion for the 300D"
 >
 > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
 >
 > Thank very much in advance<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

HeliPilot,
opinions are not in short supply, never the less here's 1
more:

<1> The kit lens is a good choice. Many look down on it without ever
even having used it just because it's a "$100 kit" lens & is unique because
it's a EF-S which only fits on the Digital Rebel/300D. I have the "kit"
lens & it's well worth the extra $100. It's not Canon's sharpest lens & has
it's faults but there is nothing better for $100 or less that will give you
an effect 28.8-88mm coverage (18-55mm). Also as many have said, the kit
lens is selling for more than $100 on Ebay, so if you don't like it after
you have given it an honest try, you can sell it & recover what you paid for
it & probably gain a small profit as well.

<2> I purchased the 55-200mm f4.5-5.6 II USM lens at the same time I
purchased the Digital Rebel/300D kit. This lens works rather well
considering it's price & it does take up exactly where the kit lens leaves
off, an effective 88-320mm lens. This lens however is slow (f4.5-5.6) &
performs best when stopped down to about f8. Between the kit lens & this 1
you have effectively 28.8-320mm covered seamlessly with 2 relatively
inexpensive, reasonably good performing lenses.

<3> The 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens which I have only owned for about
a month now is an effective 44.8-216mm lens but it's IS feature works quite
well & allows me to hand hold shots that I would have to use a tripod on
with my 55-200mm lens. It's easy to keep this lens on the camera for most
situations that don't require wide angle. No regrets here!

<4> A Canon 50mm f1.8 II lens is an effective 80mm lens & at about $70
US, is IMHO a must have in everybody's camera bag. This is my fastest lens
& will likely remain so for a long time to come. Canon "L" glass is beyond
my price range at this time. Generally, you get what you pay for in terms
of optical performance but this lens is the exception. It continues to
surprise me with both it's optical quality & speed. This lens makes indoor
handheld pictures without a flash, with the camera's ISO set between 400-800
common. Rarely is there need to take the ISO to 1600 with this lens.

<5> No matter what lens you get always try to use a lens hood on it even
if it's just a rubber collapsible 1 like the 1 HOYA makes. The lack of
using a lens hood continues to be the source of lens flair problems. Less
expensive lenses are more prone to such problems, so it's inexpensive
insurance against potential problems. Yes I often use the rubber
collapsible HOYA lens hood
on this lens too.

Lastly always consider the source of your information. A lot of people
who don't own & or have never used the Digital Rebel/300D or it's kit lens
are quick to put them down. You can spend $500 US more on the 10D which
does have more features or save that money & spend it on lenses & ext. as I
have done.

Research as much as you can before you buy anything. Here's Canon's
lens web site:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/" target="_blank">http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/</a>

Here is a site that rates lenses:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50" target="_blank">http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50</a>

There are lot's of other review sites as well.

Best wishes, hope you get a lot of useful information & are happy with
whatever you get. Just remember that it has to meet "your" needs & "your"
budget, not somebody else's!

Respectfully, DHB


"HeliPilot" <helipilot.DeleteThis@inorbit.com> wrote in message
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 > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
 > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
 > appreciated!
 >
 > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
 > that comes with the camera kit.
 >
 > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
 > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
 > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
 > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
 >
 > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
 >
 > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
 >
 > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
 > companion for the 300D"
 >
 > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
 >
 > Thank very much in advance<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

If your main concern is sharpness, none of the lenses you list are stellar
performers. A combination of the 28-135 IS or 28-105 USM and the 75-300 IS
or 100-300 USM would be a better choice, although much more expensive.
If you are planning on leaving the 18-55 at home, why are you purchasing it
in the first place? Consider a fixed focal length wide angle instead, if
the range is a consideration.

--
Skip Middleton
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"HeliPilot" <helipilot.DeleteThis@inorbit.com> wrote in message
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 > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
 > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
 > appreciated!
 >
 > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
 > that comes with the camera kit.
 >
 > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
 > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
 > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
 > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
 >
 > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
 >
 > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
 >
 > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
 > companion for the 300D"
 >
 > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
 >
 > Thank very much in advance<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

Yea, the 10D is a little better, but you will not find a single review
that says you get better results with it over the DR. If you need the
durability for rain forests and such....sure.


"DHB" <yoda2k.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message news:<2EtMb.11358$TC6.5363@nwrdny03.gnilink.net>...
 > HeliPilot,
 > opinions are not in short supply, never the less here's 1
 > more:
 >
 > <1> The kit lens is a good choice. Many look down on it without ever
 > even having used it just because it's a "$100 kit" lens & is unique because
 > it's a EF-S which only fits on the Digital Rebel/300D. I have the "kit"
 > lens & it's well worth the extra $100. It's not Canon's sharpest lens & has
 > it's faults but there is nothing better for $100 or less that will give you
 > an effect 28.8-88mm coverage (18-55mm). Also as many have said, the kit
 > lens is selling for more than $100 on Ebay, so if you don't like it after
 > you have given it an honest try, you can sell it & recover what you paid for
 > it & probably gain a small profit as well.
 >
 > <2> I purchased the 55-200mm f4.5-5.6 II USM lens at the same time I
 > purchased the Digital Rebel/300D kit. This lens works rather well
 > considering it's price & it does take up exactly where the kit lens leaves
 > off, an effective 88-320mm lens. This lens however is slow (f4.5-5.6) &
 > performs best when stopped down to about f8. Between the kit lens & this 1
 > you have effectively 28.8-320mm covered seamlessly with 2 relatively
 > inexpensive, reasonably good performing lenses.
 >
 > <3> The 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens which I have only owned for about
 > a month now is an effective 44.8-216mm lens but it's IS feature works quite
 > well & allows me to hand hold shots that I would have to use a tripod on
 > with my 55-200mm lens. It's easy to keep this lens on the camera for most
 > situations that don't require wide angle. No regrets here!
 >
 > <4> A Canon 50mm f1.8 II lens is an effective 80mm lens & at about $70
 > US, is IMHO a must have in everybody's camera bag. This is my fastest lens
 > & will likely remain so for a long time to come. Canon "L" glass is beyond
 > my price range at this time. Generally, you get what you pay for in terms
 > of optical performance but this lens is the exception. It continues to
 > surprise me with both it's optical quality & speed. This lens makes indoor
 > handheld pictures without a flash, with the camera's ISO set between 400-800
 > common. Rarely is there need to take the ISO to 1600 with this lens.
 >
 > <5> No matter what lens you get always try to use a lens hood on it even
 > if it's just a rubber collapsible 1 like the 1 HOYA makes. The lack of
 > using a lens hood continues to be the source of lens flair problems. Less
 > expensive lenses are more prone to such problems, so it's inexpensive
 > insurance against potential problems. Yes I often use the rubber
 > collapsible HOYA lens hood
 > on this lens too.
 >
 > Lastly always consider the source of your information. A lot of people
 > who don't own & or have never used the Digital Rebel/300D or it's kit lens
 > are quick to put them down. You can spend $500 US more on the 10D which
 > does have more features or save that money & spend it on lenses & ext. as I
 > have done.
 >
 > Research as much as you can before you buy anything. Here's Canon's
 > lens web site:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/</font" target="_blank">http://www.usa.canon.com/eflenses/</font</a>>
 >
 > Here is a site that rates lenses:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50</font" target="_blank">http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50</font</a>>
 >
 > There are lot's of other review sites as well.
 >
 > Best wishes, hope you get a lot of useful information & are happy with
 > whatever you get. Just remember that it has to meet "your" needs & "your"
 > budget, not somebody else's!
 >
 > Respectfully, DHB
 >
 >
 > "HeliPilot" <helipilot.RemoveThis@inorbit.com> wrote in message
 > news:1a7398d6.0401111921.395d152@posting.google.com...
  > > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
  > > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
  > > appreciated!
  > >
  > > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
  > > that comes with the camera kit.
  > >
  > > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
  > > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
  > > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
  > > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
  > >
  > > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
  > >
  > > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
  > >
  > > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
  > > companion for the 300D"
  > >
  > > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
  > >
  > > Thank very much in advance<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

R2D2 <R2D2 RemoveThis @NOoSPAM.TV> wrote:
 >helipilot@inorbit.com (HeliPilot) wrote in
 >news:1a7398d6.0401111921.395d152@posting.google.com:
 >
  >> I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
  >> following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
  >> appreciated!
 >
 >Go for the 10D instead......much better camera,

And another $600.

Why not go for the 1Ds? Better still.

After all, if money is no object ...
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On 2004-01-12, HeliPilot <helipilot RemoveThis @inorbit.com> wrote:
 > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
 > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
 > appreciated!
 >
 > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
 > that comes with the camera kit.
 >
 > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
 > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
 > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
 > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
 >
 > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
 >
 > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
 >
 > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
 > companion for the 300D"
 >
 > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD

I currently have the kit lens, the 50mm f/1.8 (recommneded by many),
and the Tamron AF 28-200mm XR you lists above. I am waiting for
the Canon 75-300mm (bought on eBay), and the 28-135mm IS.

The Tamrom is very fast at zooming, but almost impossible to handhold
at full zoom. This is one of the reasons I am getting the 28-135mm IS,
and then I will probably sell the Tamron. But my Tamron is pretty good,
and makes good pictures, even zoomed in all the way.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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I have a dRebel, the Canon 18-55, and the Tamron 28-200. I just made a
resolution test that shows both lens at all settings are as good as the
6.3meg pixel sensor allows.
Lew
"HeliPilot" <helipilot.TakeThisOut@inorbit.com> wrote in message
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 > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
 > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
 > appreciated!
 >
 > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
 > that comes with the camera kit.
 >
 > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
 > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
 > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
 > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
 >
 > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
 >
 > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
 >
 > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
 > companion for the 300D"
 >
 > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
 >
 > Thank very much in advance<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

Get the 28-135 IS and you will have a fine lens.

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"HeliPilot" <helipilot DeleteThis @inorbit.com> wrote in message
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 > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
 > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
 > appreciated!
 >
 > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
 > that comes with the camera kit.
 >
 > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
 > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
 > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
 > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
 >
 > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
 >
 > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
 >
 > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
 > companion for the 300D"
 >
 > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
 >
 > Thank very much in advance<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Best Lens Choices for Canon 300D 

In article <ZMBMb.8788$RV5.2262@fe2.texas.rr.com>,
"Lew" <barberlewie.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

 > I have a dRebel, the Canon 18-55, and the Tamron 28-200. I just made a
 > resolution test that shows both lens at all settings are as good as the
 > 6.3meg pixel sensor allows.
 > Lew

I've taken several photos with the Tamron 28-200 and it's not that
great. Check the corners at full zoom and you'll see about 2 pixels of
chromatic distortion and about 6 pixels of mild haze. There's no
mistaking it for a high quality lens. It's a good hiking lens but I
can't recommend it to anyone looking for sharpness.




 > "HeliPilot" <helipilot.RemoveThis@inorbit.com> wrote in message
 > news:1a7398d6.0401111921.395d152@posting.google.com...
  > > I am buying a 300D Rebel this week and I am thinking of purchasing the
  > > following lens combinations what do you think? Input will be greatly
  > > appreciated!
  > >
  > > My main concern is image sharpness, I am also getting the 18-55mm lens
  > > that comes with the camera kit.
  > >
  > > I am trying to decide which of these two I should get, I don't know if
  > > the picture quality will vary greatly from the Tamron to the Canon,
  > > and since most of my photos will be above 28mm I could just leave the
  > > 18-55 lens at home and carry one of the ones mentioned below.
  > >
  > > Canon EF 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 USM $360.00 USD
  > >
  > > Tamron AF 28-200mm f/3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical (IF) Super Zoom $265.00 USD
  > >
  > > Or if instead of one of the above I should choose the "perfect
  > > companion for the 300D"
  > >
  > > Canon EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM Telephoto Lens $209.00 USD
  > >
  > > Thank very much in advance
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Lew" <barberlewie.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > I have a dRebel, the Canon 18-55, and the Tamron 28-200. I just made a
 > resolution test that shows both lens at all settings are as good as the
 > 6.3meg pixel sensor allows.
 > Lew


Huh? Do you mean to say, "it doesn't get any better than this"? And please
explain your resulution tests. Having once owned a Tamron 28-200, I can
tell you that a Sigma 100-300 EX is head and shoulders better on a
resolution test. A Canon 28-135 blows the Tamron away --- again based on
experience owning both lenses.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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My test was simple. I took pictures of a resolution chart and observed which
numbered set of black and gray bars looked like bars without fading
together. If there were almost three pixels for a black-gray bar pair, the
set of bars and spaces looked correct. Less than three pixels caused the
bars and spaces to smear together. Sampling theory says that more than two
samples are required to reproduce a point without error, with the "more"
being dependent upon the processing used to convert samples into proper
points.

For several of my test shots, the group labeled "6" was the group that
looked correct, with the "7" group having some appearance of bars, but not
for certain. Group 6 had 17 black bars and 16 gray spaces. When cropped in
photoshop so only the "6" group of bars was present, photoshop indicated
that 40 to 45 pixels of the 3072 of the original were used to produce the
image in the x direction. The pixel count varied because the camera position
was not exactly correct to produce the same image size at all zoom ranges.

For all test shots with the two lenses, a tripod was used with remote
shutter. My first attempt with the Tamron at 200mm had movement even on the
tripod when I did not use the remote shutter release. No movement when my
hand was not on the camera, even with my 600mm Sigma mirror on the camera.

My resolution test is only valid for a digital camera with a sensor as in
the rebel. No matter how good the lens, the camera sensor limited my tests
for resolution. A lens may be poor and limit the resolution to less than the
sensor can deliver, but to my eye, the limit was due to the sensor. A poor
lens may still show bars, but with low contrast. A similar effect can be
seen for out of focus shots. I had some of those for comparison when I tried
to use manual focus. I need cataract surgery soon.

I don't doubt that smaller zoom range lenses are sharper than the 28-200,
but the 28-200 does look like a good match for the rebel sensor.

Lew

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 >
 > "Lew" <barberlewie.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
 > news:ZMBMb.8788$RV5.2262@fe2.texas.rr.com...
  > > I have a dRebel, the Canon 18-55, and the Tamron 28-200. I just made a
  > > resolution test that shows both lens at all settings are as good as the
  > > 6.3meg pixel sensor allows.
  > > Lew
 >
 >
 > Huh? Do you mean to say, "it doesn't get any better than this"? And
please
 > explain your resulution tests. Having once owned a Tamron 28-200, I can
 > tell you that a Sigma 100-300 EX is head and shoulders better on a
 > resolution test. A Canon 28-135 blows the Tamron away --- again based on
 > experience owning both lenses.
 >
 >
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