Maximum safe voltage for CPU

You may have hit the limit of the mem. Throwing more v at the CPU may not
help. You might try pulling one stick one memory out and see if you are
stable at 3.1 or 3.0. If you are stable with one stick but not with two then
that's probably as far as your mem will let you go.




"Jimmy L" <jamesrobertlincoln109AT.RemoveThis@hotmailDOT.com> wrote in message
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 > Does anyone know what the maximum safe voltage a P4 2.4C can be run at,
for
 > I have spent many hours on the web but have not found a definitive answer.
 > I have OC'd to 3.1 but running prime95 shows errors, which at lower speeds
I
 > have managed to remove by uing the VCore. Yet I am at 1.59v now and have
 > heard that this is really the safe limit.
 > I want to be able to stabilise the 3.1Ghz overclock, and have tried to
relax
 > the ram timings, upped the ram voltage etc.
 >
 > System
 > Asus P4C800
 > P4 2.4C (OC'd to 3.1Ghz)
 > 1024Mb Ram (unbranded - yes I know!!)
 > ATI 9800 Pro (455/368)
 >
 > Any help is greatly appreciated.
 > James
 >
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I think that no one can tell you that, we all speak of our own experience
and
what we have read, so safe voltage will be default.
I have the 2.4C on 1.65V for a year now same as Martin without problems
for testing I use 1.75V but that is for 1/2 day at the most.

Regards,
Huib.

"Jimmy L" <jamesrobertlincoln109AT DeleteThis @hotmailDOT.com> wrote in message
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 > Does anyone know what the maximum safe voltage a P4 2.4C can be run at,
for
 > I have spent many hours on the web but have not found a definitive answer.
 > I have OC'd to 3.1 but running prime95 shows errors, which at lower speeds
I
 > have managed to remove by uing the VCore. Yet I am at 1.59v now and have
 > heard that this is really the safe limit.
 > I want to be able to stabilise the 3.1Ghz overclock, and have tried to
relax
 > the ram timings, upped the ram voltage etc.
 >
 > System
 > Asus P4C800
 > P4 2.4C (OC'd to 3.1Ghz)
 > 1024Mb Ram (unbranded - yes I know!!)
 > ATI 9800 Pro (455/368)
 >
 > Any help is greatly appreciated.
 > James
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Maximum safe voltage for CPU 

"Martin" <martinthompson DeleteThis @spam.mers.arnsbrae.plus.com> wrote in message
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 > Jimmy L wrote:
  >> Does anyone know what the maximum safe voltage a P4 2.4C can be run
  >> at, for I have spent many hours on the web but have not found a
  >> definitive answer. I have OC'd to 3.1 but running prime95 shows
  >> errors, which at lower speeds I have managed to remove by uing the
  >> VCore. Yet I am at 1.59v now and have heard that this is really the
  >> safe limit.
 >
 > I have been running my P4 2.4 a 1.65v since I built my machine over a
 > year ago! As long as temps are ok you should be fine.

Therein lies the problem! ;-> What temps are OK? I have been trying to find
an official safe operating temperature range by Intel for a P4 but no one
seems to know.

Looks like for the P4 2.4C and P4 2.6C the Max Temp is 75C, measured at the
top dead center of the CPU.

From that I would think that anything 70C and below is safe, but of course
cooler is better.

The infomation that Intel provides is here:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf" target="_blank">ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</a>

Interesting reading if you are into that sort of stuff.

 >There have been
 > reports of CPU damage, but at higher voltages (over 1.75v from
 > memory).

I'd be interesting in seeing those reports, can you point me to them?

Thanks,

Dashi




 >
 > Good luck
 >
 > Martin
 >
 >
 >
 > I want to be able to stabilise the 3.1Ghz overclock, and
  >> have tried to relax the ram timings, upped the ram voltage etc.
  >>
  >> System
  >> Asus P4C800
  >> P4 2.4C (OC'd to 3.1Ghz)
  >> 1024Mb Ram (unbranded - yes I know!!)
  >> ATI 9800 Pro (455/368)
  >>
  >> Any help is greatly appreciated.
  >> James
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Thanks a lot everyone, i shall try nudging the voltage up and see if i can
remove the errors.
James


"Yuma" <Forget it.TakeThisOut@spam.org> wrote in message
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 > I think that no one can tell you that, we all speak of our own experience
 > and
 > what we have read, so safe voltage will be default.
 > I have the 2.4C on 1.65V for a year now same as Martin without problems
 > for testing I use 1.75V but that is for 1/2 day at the most.
 >
 > Regards,
 > Huib.
 >
 > "Jimmy L" <jamesrobertlincoln109AT.TakeThisOut@hotmailDOT.com> wrote in message
 > news:sXDMb.21$n93.15@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
  > > Does anyone know what the maximum safe voltage a P4 2.4C can be run at,
 > for
  > > I have spent many hours on the web but have not found a definitive
answer.
  > > I have OC'd to 3.1 but running prime95 shows errors, which at lower
speeds
 > I
  > > have managed to remove by uing the VCore. Yet I am at 1.59v now and have
  > > heard that this is really the safe limit.
  > > I want to be able to stabilise the 3.1Ghz overclock, and have tried to
 > relax
  > > the ram timings, upped the ram voltage etc.
  > >
  > > System
  > > Asus P4C800
  > > P4 2.4C (OC'd to 3.1Ghz)
  > > 1024Mb Ram (unbranded - yes I know!!)
  > > ATI 9800 Pro (455/368)
  > >
  > > Any help is greatly appreciated.
  > > James
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Maximum safe voltage for CPU 

..
 >
 > Looks like for the P4 2.4C and P4 2.6C the Max Temp is 75C, measured
 > at the top dead center of the CPU.
 >
 > From that I would think that anything 70C and below is safe, but of
 > course cooler is better.
 >
 > The infomation that Intel provides is here:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</font" target="_blank">ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</font</a>>
 >
 > Interesting reading if you are into that sort of stuff.
 >
  >> There have been
  >> reports of CPU damage, but at higher voltages (over 1.75v from
  >> memory).
 >
 > I'd be interesting in seeing those reports, can you point me to
them?
 >
 > Thanks,
 >
 > Dashi

Hi Dashi,

Yes, I have seen the information Intel provides. Personally, I think a
system would be unstable at 70c, but that is just my opinion - no hard
facts. I try to keep my temps to 55c max under load.

Regarding the risk of damage over 1.75v, IIRC I got that info from the
Asus forum (link below), where someone had posted a link to a site
where a couple of people (I think from the far east) had pushed their
voltages up too high, thereby damaging the CPUs. Something to do with
electrons and gates IIRC. Do some searching around the forum and you
might find something...

"http://www.abxzone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=de90807d2684d37bf5dd
4b05b7fe8a9b&forumid=41"

Regards

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"Martin" <martinthompson.DeleteThis@spam.mers.arnsbrae.plus.com> wrote in message
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 > .
  >>
  >> Looks like for the P4 2.4C and P4 2.6C the Max Temp is 75C, measured
  >> at the top dead center of the CPU.
  >>
  >> From that I would think that anything 70C and below is safe, but of
  >> course cooler is better.
  >>
  >> The infomation that Intel provides is here:
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</font" target="_blank">ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</font</a>>
  >>
  >> Interesting reading if you are into that sort of stuff.
  >>
   >>> There have been
   >>> reports of CPU damage, but at higher voltages (over 1.75v from
   >>> memory).
  >>
  >> I'd be interesting in seeing those reports, can you point me to
 > them?
  >>
  >> Thanks,
  >>
  >> Dashi
 >
 > Hi Dashi,
 >
 > Yes, I have seen the information Intel provides. Personally, I think a
 > system would be unstable at 70c, but that is just my opinion - no hard
 > facts. I try to keep my temps to 55c max under load.

Me too but there is really no data to suggest a Max safe operating
temperature range.

If the system ran stable at 70C then you could call that a safe operating
temperature.

I may sacrifice a CPU 2.4C (after they get a little bit cheaper) and attempt
to run it at

the highest stable temp that I can for as long as I can to find out.

I'm surprised that none of the overclocking dot coms have tried that yet,
I'm

thinking that the CPU will probably run forever (at least until it's
obsolete) in a stable system as long as the CPU temp doesn't exceed 75C.

Don't know but would like to find out.


 > Regarding the risk of damage over 1.75v, IIRC I got that info from the
 > Asus forum (link below), where someone had posted a link to a site
 > where a couple of people (I think from the far east) had pushed their
 > voltages up too high, thereby damaging the CPUs. Something to do with
 > electrons and gates IIRC. Do some searching around the forum and you
 > might find something...

Upping the voltage is something that I'm not willing to do, components
definately

have a safe operating current/voltage limit and it's not very wide.

So until I see some valid research on adjusting voltage I'll keep mine at
stock.

Thanks for the link,

Dashi


 >
 > "http://www.abxzone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=de90807d2684d37bf5dd
 > 4b05b7fe8a9b&forumid=41"
 >
 > Regards
 >
 > Martin
 >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: Maximum safe voltage for CPU 

I had to up from the stock a little for stability. I am at 1.8 volts right
now

--
Dave M
Etna, Maine USA
Radeon 9800Pro 256mb
P4 2.8 oc to 3.1


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 >
 > "Martin" <martinthompson.TakeThisOut@spam.mers.arnsbrae.plus.com> wrote in message
 > news:UMXMb.14226$tQ6.489843@wards.force9.net...
  > > .
   > >>
   > >> Looks like for the P4 2.4C and P4 2.6C the Max Temp is 75C, measured
   > >> at the top dead center of the CPU.
   > >>
   > >> From that I would think that anything 70C and below is safe, but of
   > >> course cooler is better.
   > >>
   > >> The infomation that Intel provides is here:
<font color=brown>   > >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</font" target="_blank">ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</font</a>>
   > >>
   > >> Interesting reading if you are into that sort of stuff.
   > >>
   > >>> There have been
   > >>> reports of CPU damage, but at higher voltages (over 1.75v from
   > >>> memory).
   > >>
   > >> I'd be interesting in seeing those reports, can you point me to
  > > them?
   > >>
   > >> Thanks,
   > >>
   > >> Dashi
  > >
  > > Hi Dashi,
  > >
  > > Yes, I have seen the information Intel provides. Personally, I think a
  > > system would be unstable at 70c, but that is just my opinion - no hard
  > > facts. I try to keep my temps to 55c max under load.
 >
 > Me too but there is really no data to suggest a Max safe operating
 > temperature range.
 >
 > If the system ran stable at 70C then you could call that a safe operating
 > temperature.
 >
 > I may sacrifice a CPU 2.4C (after they get a little bit cheaper) and
attempt
 > to run it at
 >
 > the highest stable temp that I can for as long as I can to find out.
 >
 > I'm surprised that none of the overclocking dot coms have tried that yet,
 > I'm
 >
 > thinking that the CPU will probably run forever (at least until it's
 > obsolete) in a stable system as long as the CPU temp doesn't exceed 75C.
 >
 > Don't know but would like to find out.
 >
 >
  > > Regarding the risk of damage over 1.75v, IIRC I got that info from the
  > > Asus forum (link below), where someone had posted a link to a site
  > > where a couple of people (I think from the far east) had pushed their
  > > voltages up too high, thereby damaging the CPUs. Something to do with
  > > electrons and gates IIRC. Do some searching around the forum and you
  > > might find something...
 >
 > Upping the voltage is something that I'm not willing to do, components
 > definately
 >
 > have a safe operating current/voltage limit and it's not very wide.
 >
 > So until I see some valid research on adjusting voltage I'll keep mine at
 > stock.
 >
 > Thanks for the link,
 >
 > Dashi
 >
 >
  > >
  > > "http://www.abxzone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=de90807d2684d37bf5dd
  > > 4b05b7fe8a9b&forumid=41"
  > >
  > > Regards
  > >
  > > Martin
  > >
  > >
  > >
 >
 >




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 >
 > If the system ran stable at 70C then you could call that a safe
 > operating temperature.
 >
 > I may sacrifice a CPU 2.4C (after they get a little bit cheaper) and
 > attempt to run it at
 >
 > the highest stable temp that I can for as long as I can to find out.
 >
 >

Lol - keep us posted!

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Dave:

I bet that all you would have to do to get a great overclock is to get a
stick of high grade memory, pc3200 or above.

Dashi

"dmac" <d DeleteThis @d.com> wrote in message news:4004afa9_2@corp.newsgroups.com...
 >I had to up from the stock a little for stability. I am at 1.8 volts right
 > now
 >
 > --
 > Dave M
 > Etna, Maine USA
 > Radeon 9800Pro 256mb
 > P4 2.8 oc to 3.1
 >
 >
 > "Dashi" <Dashi DeleteThis @pol.com> wrote in message
 > news:W0ZMb.46186$8H.98870@attbi_s03...
  >>
  >> "Martin" <martinthompson DeleteThis @spam.mers.arnsbrae.plus.com> wrote in message
  >> news:UMXMb.14226$tQ6.489843@wards.force9.net...
   >> > .
   >> >>
   >> >> Looks like for the P4 2.4C and P4 2.6C the Max Temp is 75C, measured
   >> >> at the top dead center of the CPU.
   >> >>
   >> >> From that I would think that anything 70C and below is safe, but of
   >> >> course cooler is better.
   >> >>
   >> >> The infomation that Intel provides is here:
<font color=brown>   >> >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</font" target="_blank">ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</font</a>>
   >> >>
   >> >> Interesting reading if you are into that sort of stuff.
   >> >>
   >> >>> There have been
   >> >>> reports of CPU damage, but at higher voltages (over 1.75v from
   >> >>> memory).
   >> >>
   >> >> I'd be interesting in seeing those reports, can you point me to
   >> > them?
   >> >>
   >> >> Thanks,
   >> >>
   >> >> Dashi
   >> >
   >> > Hi Dashi,
   >> >
   >> > Yes, I have seen the information Intel provides. Personally, I think a
   >> > system would be unstable at 70c, but that is just my opinion - no hard
   >> > facts. I try to keep my temps to 55c max under load.
  >>
  >> Me too but there is really no data to suggest a Max safe operating
  >> temperature range.
  >>
  >> If the system ran stable at 70C then you could call that a safe operating
  >> temperature.
  >>
  >> I may sacrifice a CPU 2.4C (after they get a little bit cheaper) and
 > attempt
  >> to run it at
  >>
  >> the highest stable temp that I can for as long as I can to find out.
  >>
  >> I'm surprised that none of the overclocking dot coms have tried that yet,
  >> I'm
  >>
  >> thinking that the CPU will probably run forever (at least until it's
  >> obsolete) in a stable system as long as the CPU temp doesn't exceed 75C.
  >>
  >> Don't know but would like to find out.
  >>
  >>
   >> > Regarding the risk of damage over 1.75v, IIRC I got that info from the
   >> > Asus forum (link below), where someone had posted a link to a site
   >> > where a couple of people (I think from the far east) had pushed their
   >> > voltages up too high, thereby damaging the CPUs. Something to do with
   >> > electrons and gates IIRC. Do some searching around the forum and you
   >> > might find something...
  >>
  >> Upping the voltage is something that I'm not willing to do, components
  >> definately
  >>
  >> have a safe operating current/voltage limit and it's not very wide.
  >>
  >> So until I see some valid research on adjusting voltage I'll keep mine at
  >> stock.
  >>
  >> Thanks for the link,
  >>
  >> Dashi
  >>
  >>
   >> >
   >> > "http://www.abxzone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=de90807d2684d37bf5dd
   >> > 4b05b7fe8a9b&forumid=41"
   >> >
   >> > Regards
   >> >
   >> > Martin
   >> >
   >> >
   >> >
  >>
  >>
 >
 >
 >
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yeah, money is big issue right now. am going to get pc3700 soon I hope. then
I hope to get 3.25 to 3.3 out of it.

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"Dashi" <Dashi DeleteThis @pol.com> wrote in message
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 > Dave:
 >
 > I bet that all you would have to do to get a great overclock is to get a
 > stick of high grade memory, pc3200 or above.
 >
 > Dashi
 >
 > "dmac" <d DeleteThis @d.com> wrote in message news:4004afa9_2@corp.newsgroups.com...
  > >I had to up from the stock a little for stability. I am at 1.8 volts
right
  > > now
  > >
  > > --
  > > Dave M
  > > Etna, Maine USA
  > > Radeon 9800Pro 256mb
  > > P4 2.8 oc to 3.1
  > >
  > >
  > > "Dashi" <Dashi DeleteThis @pol.com> wrote in message
  > > news:W0ZMb.46186$8H.98870@attbi_s03...
   > >>
   > >> "Martin" <martinthompson DeleteThis @spam.mers.arnsbrae.plus.com> wrote in message
   > >> news:UMXMb.14226$tQ6.489843@wards.force9.net...
   > >> > .
   > >> >>
   > >> >> Looks like for the P4 2.4C and P4 2.6C the Max Temp is 75C, measured
   > >> >> at the top dead center of the CPU.
   > >> >>
   > >> >> From that I would think that anything 70C and below is safe, but of
   > >> >> course cooler is better.
   > >> >>
   > >> >> The infomation that Intel provides is here:
<font color=brown>   > >> >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</font" target="_blank">ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</font</a>>
   > >> >>
   > >> >> Interesting reading if you are into that sort of stuff.
   > >> >>
   > >> >>> There have been
   > >> >>> reports of CPU damage, but at higher voltages (over 1.75v from
   > >> >>> memory).
   > >> >>
   > >> >> I'd be interesting in seeing those reports, can you point me to
   > >> > them?
   > >> >>
   > >> >> Thanks,
   > >> >>
   > >> >> Dashi
   > >> >
   > >> > Hi Dashi,
   > >> >
   > >> > Yes, I have seen the information Intel provides. Personally, I think
a
   > >> > system would be unstable at 70c, but that is just my opinion - no
hard
   > >> > facts. I try to keep my temps to 55c max under load.
   > >>
   > >> Me too but there is really no data to suggest a Max safe operating
   > >> temperature range.
   > >>
   > >> If the system ran stable at 70C then you could call that a safe
operating
   > >> temperature.
   > >>
   > >> I may sacrifice a CPU 2.4C (after they get a little bit cheaper) and
  > > attempt
   > >> to run it at
   > >>
   > >> the highest stable temp that I can for as long as I can to find out.

   > >>
   > >> I'm surprised that none of the overclocking dot coms have tried that
yet,
   > >> I'm
   > >>
   > >> thinking that the CPU will probably run forever (at least until it's
   > >> obsolete) in a stable system as long as the CPU temp doesn't exceed
75C.
   > >>
   > >> Don't know but would like to find out.
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> > Regarding the risk of damage over 1.75v, IIRC I got that info from
the
   > >> > Asus forum (link below), where someone had posted a link to a site
   > >> > where a couple of people (I think from the far east) had pushed their
   > >> > voltages up too high, thereby damaging the CPUs. Something to do with
   > >> > electrons and gates IIRC. Do some searching around the forum and you
   > >> > might find something...
   > >>
   > >> Upping the voltage is something that I'm not willing to do, components
   > >> definately
   > >>
   > >> have a safe operating current/voltage limit and it's not very wide.
   > >>
   > >> So until I see some valid research on adjusting voltage I'll keep mine
at
   > >> stock.
   > >>
   > >> Thanks for the link,
   > >>
   > >> Dashi
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> >
   > >> >
"http://www.abxzone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=de90807d2684d37bf5dd
   > >> > 4b05b7fe8a9b&forumid=41"
   > >> >
   > >> > Regards
   > >> >
   > >> > Martin
   > >> >
   > >> >
   > >> >
   > >>
   > >>
  > >
  > >
  > >
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oh what the hell, 1 card was not maxed, now it is. 4x 256 pc3700 coming from
newegg.

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Dave M
Etna, Maine USA
Radeon 9800Pro 256mb
P4 2.8 oc to 3.1


"Dashi" <Dashi.RemoveThis@pol.com> wrote in message
news:06iNb.53109$5V2.66287@attbi_s53...
 > Dave:
 >
 > I bet that all you would have to do to get a great overclock is to get a
 > stick of high grade memory, pc3200 or above.
 >
 > Dashi
 >
 > "dmac" <d.RemoveThis@d.com> wrote in message news:4004afa9_2@corp.newsgroups.com...
  > >I had to up from the stock a little for stability. I am at 1.8 volts
right
  > > now
  > >
  > > --
  > > Dave M
  > > Etna, Maine USA
  > > Radeon 9800Pro 256mb
  > > P4 2.8 oc to 3.1
  > >
  > >
  > > "Dashi" <Dashi.RemoveThis@pol.com> wrote in message
  > > news:W0ZMb.46186$8H.98870@attbi_s03...
   > >>
   > >> "Martin" <martinthompson.RemoveThis@spam.mers.arnsbrae.plus.com> wrote in message
   > >> news:UMXMb.14226$tQ6.489843@wards.force9.net...
   > >> > .
   > >> >>
   > >> >> Looks like for the P4 2.4C and P4 2.6C the Max Temp is 75C, measured
   > >> >> at the top dead center of the CPU.
   > >> >>
   > >> >> From that I would think that anything 70C and below is safe, but of
   > >> >> course cooler is better.
   > >> >>
   > >> >> The infomation that Intel provides is here:
<font color=brown>   > >> >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</font" target="_blank">ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</font</a>>
   > >> >>
   > >> >> Interesting reading if you are into that sort of stuff.
   > >> >>
   > >> >>> There have been
   > >> >>> reports of CPU damage, but at higher voltages (over 1.75v from
   > >> >>> memory).
   > >> >>
   > >> >> I'd be interesting in seeing those reports, can you point me to
   > >> > them?
   > >> >>
   > >> >> Thanks,
   > >> >>
   > >> >> Dashi
   > >> >
   > >> > Hi Dashi,
   > >> >
   > >> > Yes, I have seen the information Intel provides. Personally, I think
a
   > >> > system would be unstable at 70c, but that is just my opinion - no
hard
   > >> > facts. I try to keep my temps to 55c max under load.
   > >>
   > >> Me too but there is really no data to suggest a Max safe operating
   > >> temperature range.
   > >>
   > >> If the system ran stable at 70C then you could call that a safe
operating
   > >> temperature.
   > >>
   > >> I may sacrifice a CPU 2.4C (after they get a little bit cheaper) and
  > > attempt
   > >> to run it at
   > >>
   > >> the highest stable temp that I can for as long as I can to find out.

   > >>
   > >> I'm surprised that none of the overclocking dot coms have tried that
yet,
   > >> I'm
   > >>
   > >> thinking that the CPU will probably run forever (at least until it's
   > >> obsolete) in a stable system as long as the CPU temp doesn't exceed
75C.
   > >>
   > >> Don't know but would like to find out.
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> > Regarding the risk of damage over 1.75v, IIRC I got that info from
the
   > >> > Asus forum (link below), where someone had posted a link to a site
   > >> > where a couple of people (I think from the far east) had pushed their
   > >> > voltages up too high, thereby damaging the CPUs. Something to do with
   > >> > electrons and gates IIRC. Do some searching around the forum and you
   > >> > might find something...
   > >>
   > >> Upping the voltage is something that I'm not willing to do, components
   > >> definately
   > >>
   > >> have a safe operating current/voltage limit and it's not very wide.
   > >>
   > >> So until I see some valid research on adjusting voltage I'll keep mine
at
   > >> stock.
   > >>
   > >> Thanks for the link,
   > >>
   > >> Dashi
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> >
   > >> >
"http://www.abxzone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=de90807d2684d37bf5dd
   > >> > 4b05b7fe8a9b&forumid=41"
   > >> >
   > >> > Regards
   > >> >
   > >> > Martin
   > >> >
   > >> >
   > >> >
   > >>
   > >>
  > >
  > >
  > >
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Alright Guy, what brand did you get?

Dashi

"dmac" <d.TakeThisOut@d.com> wrote in message news:4005d157_6@corp.newsgroups.com...
 > oh what the hell, 1 card was not maxed, now it is. 4x 256 pc3700 coming
 > from
 > newegg.
 >
 > --
 > Dave M
 > Etna, Maine USA
 > Radeon 9800Pro 256mb
 > P4 2.8 oc to 3.1
 >
 >
 > "Dashi" <Dashi.TakeThisOut@pol.com> wrote in message
 > news:06iNb.53109$5V2.66287@attbi_s53...
  >> Dave:
  >>
  >> I bet that all you would have to do to get a great overclock is to get a
  >> stick of high grade memory, pc3200 or above.
  >>
  >> Dashi
  >>
  >> "dmac" <d.TakeThisOut@d.com> wrote in message news:4004afa9_2@corp.newsgroups.com...
   >> >I had to up from the stock a little for stability. I am at 1.8 volts
 > right
   >> > now
   >> >
   >> > --
   >> > Dave M
   >> > Etna, Maine USA
   >> > Radeon 9800Pro 256mb
   >> > P4 2.8 oc to 3.1
   >> >
   >> >
   >> > "Dashi" <Dashi.TakeThisOut@pol.com> wrote in message
   >> > news:W0ZMb.46186$8H.98870@attbi_s03...
   >> >>
   >> >> "Martin" <martinthompson.TakeThisOut@spam.mers.arnsbrae.plus.com> wrote in message
   >> >> news:UMXMb.14226$tQ6.489843@wards.force9.net...
   >> >> > .
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >> Looks like for the P4 2.4C and P4 2.6C the Max Temp is 75C,
   >> >> >> measured
   >> >> >> at the top dead center of the CPU.
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >> From that I would think that anything 70C and below is safe, but of
   >> >> >> course cooler is better.
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >> The infomation that Intel provides is here:
<font color=brown>   >> >> >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</font" target="_blank">ftp://download.intel.com/design/Pentium4/guides/25216101.pdf</font</a>>
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >> Interesting reading if you are into that sort of stuff.
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >>> There have been
   >> >> >>> reports of CPU damage, but at higher voltages (over 1.75v from
   >> >> >>> memory).
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >> I'd be interesting in seeing those reports, can you point me to
   >> >> > them?
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >> Thanks,
   >> >> >>
   >> >> >> Dashi
   >> >> >
   >> >> > Hi Dashi,
   >> >> >
   >> >> > Yes, I have seen the information Intel provides. Personally, I think
 > a
   >> >> > system would be unstable at 70c, but that is just my opinion - no
 > hard
   >> >> > facts. I try to keep my temps to 55c max under load.
   >> >>
   >> >> Me too but there is really no data to suggest a Max safe operating
   >> >> temperature range.
   >> >>
   >> >> If the system ran stable at 70C then you could call that a safe
 > operating
   >> >> temperature.
   >> >>
   >> >> I may sacrifice a CPU 2.4C (after they get a little bit cheaper) and
   >> > attempt
   >> >> to run it at
   >> >>
   >> >> the highest stable temp that I can for as long as I can to find out.
 >
   >> >>
   >> >> I'm surprised that none of the overclocking dot coms have tried that
 > yet,
   >> >> I'm
   >> >>
   >> >> thinking that the CPU will probably run forever (at least until it's
   >> >> obsolete) in a stable system as long as the CPU temp doesn't exceed
 > 75C.
   >> >>
   >> >> Don't know but would like to find out.
   >> >>
   >> >>
   >> >> > Regarding the risk of damage over 1.75v, IIRC I got that info from
 > the
   >> >> > Asus forum (link below), where someone had posted a link to a site
   >> >> > where a couple of people (I think from the far east) had pushed
   >> >> > their
   >> >> > voltages up too high, thereby damaging the CPUs. Something to do
   >> >> > with
   >> >> > electrons and gates IIRC. Do some searching around the forum and you
   >> >> > might find something...
   >> >>
   >> >> Upping the voltage is something that I'm not willing to do, components
   >> >> definately
   >> >>
   >> >> have a safe operating current/voltage limit and it's not very wide.
   >> >>
   >> >> So until I see some valid research on adjusting voltage I'll keep mine
 > at
   >> >> stock.
   >> >>
   >> >> Thanks for the link,
   >> >>
   >> >> Dashi
   >> >>
   >> >>
   >> >> >
   >> >> >
 > "http://www.abxzone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=de90807d2684d37bf5dd
   >> >> > 4b05b7fe8a9b&forumid=41"
   >> >> >
   >> >> > Regards
   >> >> >
   >> >> > Martin
   >> >> >
   >> >> >
   >> >> >
   >> >>
   >> >>
   >> >
   >> >
   >> >
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buffalo. 48$ per stick and seemed to have decent specs. beggars=choosers you
know!

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Dave M
Etna, Maine USA
Radeon 9800Pro 256mb
P4 2.8 oc to 3.1


"Dashi" <Dashi.RemoveThis@pol.com> wrote in message
news:dZnNb.56055$nt4.86891@attbi_s51...
 > Alright Guy, what brand did you get?
 >
 > Dashi
 >
 > "dmac" <d.RemoveThis@d.com> wrote in message news:4005d157_6@corp.newsgroups.com...
  > > oh what the hell, 1 card was not maxed, now it is. 4x 256 pc3700 coming
  > > from
  > > newegg.
  > >
  > > --
  > > Dave M
  > > Etna, Maine USA
  > > Radeon 9800Pro 256mb
  > > P4 2.8 oc to 3.1
  > >
  > >
  > > "Dashi" <Dashi.RemoveThis@pol.com> wrote in message
  > > news:06iNb.53109$5V2.66287@attbi_s53...
   > >> Dave:
   > >>
   > >> I bet that all you would have to do to get a great overclock is to get
a
   > >> stick of high grade memory, pc3200 or above.
   > >>
   > >> Dashi
   > >>
   > >> "dmac" <d.RemoveThis@d.com> wrote in message
news:4004afa9_2@corp.newsgroups.com...
   > >> >I had to up from the stock a little for stability. I am at 1.8 volts
  > > right
   > >> > now
   > >> >
   > &g