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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:20 am
Post subject: Misc Questions about Power supply
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| Hello,
My question is about standard to fix and insert powersupply. What is
Zippy ? I suppose a manufacturer but also a certain standard. What are
standards to fix the PSU (I am not talking about connector) ? What is
PFC, active or passive what ?
Thanks
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Misc Questions about Power supply [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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David Nguyen <pppswing.DeleteThis@yahoo.fr> wrote in message news:<2vtrieF2mun9lU1.DeleteThis@uni-berlin.de>...
> Hello,
> My question is about standard to fix and insert powersupply. What is
> Zippy ? I suppose a manufacturer but also a certain standard. What are
> standards to fix the PSU (I am not talking about connector) ? What is
> PFC, active or passive what ?
> Thanks
I think Zippy is a brand.
There are several standards for computer power supplies. The AT
standard power supplies (which did not support soft off and had to be
switched off manually) have been obsolete since about 1998. More
recent desktop computers generally employ ATX type power supplies. The
ATX standard has gone through several revisions. The latest one is
distinguished by having an additional 4 pin connector which is used to
provide a dedicated connection for the CPU power in P4 and Athlon64
systems. To replace your current supply, you have to determine which
type (ATX etc.) is required and the minimum rating (watts total and
currents for each of the output voltages). Your existing supply
probably has a label that provides this information. If you think you
might upgrade your other hardware at some point, you probably should
get a supply that is rated for at least 350 watts. Power supplies made
by reputable manufacturers such as Antec are preferable, but are also
more expensive.
There are a few special cases to watch out for. Some Dell computers
(older ones I think) had non-standard arrangements for the assignment
of power connector pin numbers and voltages (which could cause nasty
problems).
PFC refers to power factor correction. This causes the AC current
drawn by the power supply to better approximate a sinusoidal waveform.
Passive PFC uses passive components (inductors and capacitors) at the
input of the power supply to shape the current waveform. Active PFC is
a more sophisticated approach that achieves a similar result by
modifying the operation of the power supply. I understand PFC is
required by European standards, but not in North America where it is
quite rare.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:34 pm
Post subject: Re: Misc Questions about Power supply [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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For P4 prescott can I use ATX12V 1.3 or 2.0
Robert Inkol wrote:
> David Nguyen <pppswing RemoveThis @yahoo.fr> wrote in message news:<2vtrieF2mun9lU1 RemoveThis @uni-berlin.de>...
>
>>Hello,
>>My question is about standard to fix and insert powersupply. What is
>>Zippy ? I suppose a manufacturer but also a certain standard. What are
>>standards to fix the PSU (I am not talking about connector) ? What is
>>PFC, active or passive what ?
>>Thanks
>
>
> I think Zippy is a brand.
>
> There are several standards for computer power supplies. The AT
> standard power supplies (which did not support soft off and had to be
> switched off manually) have been obsolete since about 1998. More
> recent desktop computers generally employ ATX type power supplies. The
> ATX standard has gone through several revisions. The latest one is
> distinguished by having an additional 4 pin connector which is used to
> provide a dedicated connection for the CPU power in P4 and Athlon64
> systems. To replace your current supply, you have to determine which
> type (ATX etc.) is required and the minimum rating (watts total and
> currents for each of the output voltages). Your existing supply
> probably has a label that provides this information. If you think you
> might upgrade your other hardware at some point, you probably should
> get a supply that is rated for at least 350 watts. Power supplies made
> by reputable manufacturers such as Antec are preferable, but are also
> more expensive.
>
> There are a few special cases to watch out for. Some Dell computers
> (older ones I think) had non-standard arrangements for the assignment
> of power connector pin numbers and voltages (which could cause nasty
> problems).
>
> PFC refers to power factor correction. This causes the AC current
> drawn by the power supply to better approximate a sinusoidal waveform.
> Passive PFC uses passive components (inductors and capacitors) at the
> input of the power supply to shape the current waveform. Active PFC is
> a more sophisticated approach that achieves a similar result by
> modifying the operation of the power supply. I understand PFC is
> required by European standards, but not in North America where it is
> quite rare.
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2004 10:34 pm
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On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:34:55 +0100, David Nguyen <pppswing DeleteThis @yahoo.fr> wrote:
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>For P4 prescott can I use ATX12V 1.3 or 2.0
See <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.antec.com/pdf/article/ATX12v2.html" target="_blank">http://www.antec.com/pdf/article/ATX12v2.html</a>
Also have a browse around <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.power-on.com/" target="_blank">http://www.power-on.com/</a> for connector adapters
and pin configurations.
Rgds, George Macdonald
"Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Misc Questions about Power supply |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:02 am
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George Macdonald wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:34:55 +0100, David Nguyen <pppswing RemoveThis @yahoo.fr> wrote:
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>>For P4 prescott can I use ATX12V 1.3 or 2.0
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<font color=purple> > See <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.antec.com/pdf/article/ATX12v2.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.antec.com/pdf/article/ATX12v2.html</font</a>>
Very Good article, So I think I can use ATX12V 1.3 cause I don't have
PCI express on my board even if I got a prescott. But my question is
what power, I've seen recommendation for 350W however I think 300W would
be OK.
> Also have a browse around <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.power-on.com/" target="_blank">http://www.power-on.com/</a> for connector adapters
> and pin configurations.
>
> Rgds, George Macdonald
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 7:20 am
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 00:02:36 +0100, David Nguyen <pppswing.DeleteThis@yahoo.fr> wrote:
>George Macdonald wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:34:55 +0100, David Nguyen <pppswing.DeleteThis@yahoo.fr> wrote:
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>>>For P4 prescott can I use ATX12V 1.3 or 2.0
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<font color=green> >> See <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.antec.com/pdf/article/ATX12v2.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.antec.com/pdf/article/ATX12v2.html</font</a>>
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>Very Good article, So I think I can use ATX12V 1.3 cause I don't have
>PCI express on my board even if I got a prescott. But my question is
>what power, I've seen recommendation for 350W however I think 300W would
>be OK.
You can probably get away with 300W IFF it's a high quality one. OTOH,
350W is generally what's recommended those days and if there's any chance
you'll upgrade some component before the P/S, it's short-sighted to not
spend a few extra $$ now... IMO.
Rgds, George Macdonald
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 6:22 am
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On 16 Nov 2004 18:55:43 -0800, robert.inkol.TakeThisOut@rogers.com (Robert Inkol)
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>David Nguyen <pppswing.TakeThisOut@yahoo.fr> wrote in message news:<2vtrieF2mun9lU1.TakeThisOut@uni-berlin.de>...
>> Hello,
>> My question is about standard to fix and insert powersupply. What is
>> Zippy ? I suppose a manufacturer but also a certain standard. What are
>> standards to fix the PSU (I am not talking about connector) ? What is
>> PFC, active or passive what ?
>> Thanks
>
>I think Zippy is a brand.
If it's the same Zippy being used in servers around here, it's a
pretty good brand too 
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