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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 5:28 pm
Post subject: Best Mobo
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Quick one.
What would be the best motherboard I can possibly buy for gaming as well as
overclocking. Budget it pretty much limitless. And what graphics card and
processor etc would you reccomend.
Thanks
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:15 pm
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Chris Tattersall <tatt RemoveThis @blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Quick one.
>
> What would be the best motherboard I can possibly buy for gaming as
> well as overclocking. Budget it pretty much limitless. And what
> graphics card and processor etc would you reccomend.
Hmmm, tough one. I'd probably go with the Asus PC-DL Deluxe, which uses the
Intel 875P chipset, and add two Xeon 3.06 CPUs and a ton of RAM.
In addition to manual features, it also has "AI overclocking", which means
it overclocks itself when it feels it's safe, up to 15%.
And yes, Xeons *are* faster than similarly clocked Pentium 4s, as well as
compatible.
Otherwise, the new (to be released in a week or two) Asus SiS 649-based
motherboard is a good choice. It uses PC1200 quad-pumped RDRAM, for a total
memory bandwidth of up to 9.4G/s -- that's 50% more than the competition.
What's good about it is that from an overclocker's perspective, you can
reduce the FSB/RAM ratio and STILL saturate the FSB, which should allow you
to overclock the CPU even higher.
The downside is of course that you have to buy the special and rather
expensive Samsung 232-pin 32-bits RDRAM. (For PC1066 32-bit RDRAM, in case
you want to overclock, you can also buy it from Corsair or OCZ, but it's
really Samsung RAM that has been repackaged, and just as expensive.)
Anyhow, the SiS 649 might just be an overclocker's dream, barring it doesn't
suffer from performance issues like the 648 did. Initial tests indicate
that SiS got it right this time, though.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:32 pm
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hi
if you want something what that works with minimum problems get
asus p4c800-e deluxe , p4-2.8ghz 800fsb or up cpu ,
en7280 case + 420w ps or more , <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.enlightcorp.com" target="_blank">http://www.enlightcorp.com</a>
samsung pc3200 512mb tccc timing ddr ,ati 9800 / 9800 aiw or up ,http://www.ati.com
pionner 120s dvd , <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/multimedia/dvd/dvd_frame.htm" target="_blank">http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/multimedia/dvd/dvd_frame.htm</a>
pioneer drv-a06 or a07 dvd recorder
kingwin hot plug sata and scsi caddy's , 250gb hitachi data drive's
hitachi/ibm as boot drive's 36gb - 140gb 146z10 family scsi drive ,http://www.hgst.com
adaptec 29320 adapter , <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.adaptec.com" target="_blank">http://www.adaptec.com</a>
dlink gigabit 8 port switch
and you will have good economical start of a fast and upgradeable system
dusan
Chris Tattersall wrote:
> Quick one.
>
> What would be the best motherboard I can possibly buy for gaming as well as
> overclocking. Budget it pretty much limitless. And what graphics card and
> processor etc would you reccomend.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris T
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 12:06 am
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Hi,
I've Asus p4p8x, 533, 2.66 ghz at 3.13 running (could be faster, i've
only 1 PC2100 512 MB memory, though you can put dual 256 MB in it at
PC2700), about Eur 100,00.
Look for the manuals on the Asus-site. 800 would be p4p800 deluxe maybe.
Chris Tattersall wrote:
>Quick one.
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>What would be the best motherboard I can possibly buy for gaming as well as
>overclocking. Budget it pretty much limitless. And what graphics card and
>processor etc would you reccomend.
>
>Thanks
>
>Chris T
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 1:46 am
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Chris Tattersall wrote:
> What would be the best motherboard I can possibly buy for gaming as
> well as overclocking. Budget it pretty much limitless. And what
> graphics card and processor etc would you reccomend.
For gaming, look at the new Athlon 64...
I have a P4C 2.6 myself, running on a DFI LanParty 875Pro. (@ 3250 MHz  )
I like the processor (got it cheap) and the mainboard too (also a lucky
break). The main thing against it, is the maximum DDR voltage; only 2.7
volts. But well, my PC2700 (XMS 3000, okay) is running @ 400 MHz dual
channel, so the memory unit is very well built...
But AMD's are very strong at gaming... But, they've been released just
shortly, and i dont really know which mainboard is the best to have.
And the graphics card, if limitless budget, the Radeon 9800 XT, of course
Fastest and (almost?) most expensive card available... Get one from a
decent brand; Powercolour has a bad rep in alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati .
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 1:46 am
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Thomas <see_reply RemoveThis @to.adress> wrote:
> And the graphics card, if limitless budget, the Radeon 9800 XT, of
> course Fastest and (almost?) most expensive card available...
Uhm, no. Far from it. In the *consumer* class, sure. But I'd take a
FireGL X2-256 over the 9800XT any day. (They use the same VPU.)
If speed is secondary to visual quality, I'd go with the Parhelia HR256,
which with its quad DVI can drive 9MP displays (up to 3840x2400 native
resolution, or 9 megapixels). Of course, $2500 for the graphics card and
another $5000 for a display is not exactly cheap, but hey, if you need that
kind of resolution, that's a killer. You can even run it as a second card
in a PCI/PCI66 slot if you still want the Radeon 9800XT (or FireGL) for
games  Hey, the guy said almost limitless budget!
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 1:46 am
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"Thomas" <see_reply.TakeThisOut@to.adress> wrote in message
news:cJvvb.30214$6V.1179306@zonnet-reader-1...
> Chris Tattersall wrote:
> > What would be the best motherboard I can possibly buy for gaming as
> > well as overclocking. Budget it pretty much limitless. And what
> > graphics card and processor etc would you reccomend.
>
> For gaming, look at the new Athlon 64...
> I have a P4C 2.6 myself, running on a DFI LanParty 875Pro. (@ 3250 MHz
)
> I like the processor (got it cheap) and the mainboard too (also a lucky
> break). The main thing against it, is the maximum DDR voltage; only 2.7
> volts. But well, my PC2700 (XMS 3000, okay) is running @ 400 MHz dual
> channel, so the memory unit is very well built...
>
> But AMD's are very strong at gaming... But, they've been released just
> shortly, and i dont really know which mainboard is the best to have.
>
> And the graphics card, if limitless budget, the Radeon 9800 XT, of course
> Fastest and (almost?) most expensive card available... Get one from a
> decent brand; Powercolour has a bad rep in alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
..
>
> Thomas
>
>
No such thang as best mobo, and if there is one today, it'll change
tomorrow. Money is the limitation and if that is no prob to you then ask for
the ultimate machine. NF7S is a good mobo for us regular O/C type folks.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 2:03 am
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*Thomas* wrote in <news:cJvvb.30214$6V.1179306@zonnet-reader-1>:
> But AMD's are very strong at gaming... But, they've been released just
> shortly, and i dont really know which mainboard is the best to have.
nForce2 chipset based for sure. I recommend Abit NF7-S plus Athlon XP 2500+
(BARTON). On the other hand there is a new Abit MoBo I've heard about just
a bit.. AF7 - just look for some more info and make up your mind
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 2:56 am
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> For gaming, look at the new Athlon 64...
I would also look at the Athlon64. The situation is still not clear on
motherboards though, so it would require more research than you may be
qualified for.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 3:57 am
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Kacza wrote:
>> But AMD's are very strong at gaming... But, they've been released
>> just shortly, and i dont really know which mainboard is the best to
>> have.
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> nForce2 chipset based for sure. I recommend Abit NF7-S plus Athlon XP
> 2500+ (BARTON). On the other hand there is a new Abit MoBo I've heard
> about just a bit.. AF7 - just look for some more info and make up
> your mind
Erm... I was talking Athlon-64, guys This fellow was talking about an
unlimited budget
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 3:58 am
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Z28 wrote:
>> For gaming, look at the new Athlon 64...
>> I have a P4C 2.6 myself, running on a DFI LanParty 875Pro. (@ 3250
>> MHz ) I like the processor (got it cheap) and the mainboard too
>> (also a lucky break). The main thing against it, is the maximum DDR
>> voltage; only 2.7 volts. But well, my PC2700 (XMS 3000, okay) is
>> running @ 400 MHz dual channel, so the memory unit is very well
>> built...
>>
>> But AMD's are very strong at gaming... But, they've been released
>> just shortly, and i dont really know which mainboard is the best to
>> have.
>
> No such thang as best mobo, and if there is one today, it'll change
> tomorrow. Money is the limitation and if that is no prob to you then
> ask for the ultimate machine. NF7S is a good mobo for us regular O/C
> type folks. Also for non-oc folks!
Erm... I was talking Athlon-64, guys This fellow was talking about an
unlimited budget
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 4:00 am
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Arthur Hagen wrote:
>> And the graphics card, if limitless budget, the Radeon 9800 XT, of
>> course Fastest and (almost?) most expensive card available...
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> Uhm, no. Far from it. In the *consumer* class, sure. But I'd take a
> FireGL X2-256 over the 9800XT any day. (They use the same VPU.)
Erm, sure, BUT, did you read the original posting? The OP asked for
gaming/overclocking performance... The FireGL is better in OpenGL
development st*t, of course, but it's gaming performance is at best equal...
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 2:10 pm
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*Thomas* wrote in <news:CDxvb.30683$6V.1192887@zonnet-reader-1>:
> Erm... I was talking Athlon-64, guys This fellow was talking about an
> unlimited budget
Ops )) My bad...
I can't help him then...
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2003 8:41 pm
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rms wrote:
>> For gaming, look at the new Athlon 64...
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> I would also look at the Athlon64. The situation is still not
> clear on motherboards though, so it would require more research than
> you may be qualified for.
Didn't Tomshardware just do a comparison of Athlon 64 boards?
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 1:48 am
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Chris Tattersall wrote:
> Quick one.
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> What would be the best motherboard I can possibly buy for gaming as
> well as overclocking. Budget it pretty much limitless. And what
> graphics card and processor etc would you reccomend.
Dual Opteron 248's on a Tyan Thunder K8S (make sure you get the one with
onboard SCSI), and chuck in four sticks of registered PC3200 (say a gig per
stick) for good luck. Motherboard doesn't give much for overclocking, but I
don't think 248's will overclock too well anyhow (not even sure you'd need
to ...). For a gaming graphics card, I'd say the ATI Radeon 9800XT's the top
of the heap at the moment. Since budget is not too much of a problem, I'd
say go for a Raid 0+1 setup on four Cheetah 15K.3 drives (go for the 73 gig
versions for plenty of high-speed space). Oh, and you'll need a pretty
grunty PSU ...
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