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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:42 pm
Post subject: My Network Places
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| I have a wireless network running and both the desktop and the laptops
can access the internet. However, while the desktop can view the
shared files on the laptop, the laptop's My Network Places is blank
and of course cannot view the shared files on the desktop. The
Workgroup name is same for both so why can one view it but the other
can't?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:14 pm
Post subject: Re: My Network Places [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 20 Apr 2007 13:42:53 -0700, softfingers3.DeleteThis@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>I have a wireless network running and both the desktop and the laptops
>can access the internet. However, while the desktop can view the
>shared files on the laptop, the laptop's My Network Places is blank
>and of course cannot view the shared files on the desktop. The
>Workgroup name is same for both so why can one view it but the other
>can't?
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:47 am
Post subject: Re: My Network Places [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 20 Apr, 23:14, daytripper <day_tri....DeleteThis@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
> On 20 Apr 2007 13:42:53 -0700, softfinge....DeleteThis@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
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> >I have a wireless network running and both the desktop and the laptops
> >can access the internet. However, while the desktop can view the
> >shared files on the laptop, the laptop's My Network Places is blank
> >and of course cannot view the shared files on the desktop. The
> >Workgroup name is same for both so why can one view it but the other
> >can't?
>
> And the respective operating systems are - what ?
Both computers are running XP Home >> Stay informed about: My Network Places |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 3:32 pm
Post subject: Re: My Network Places [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 21 Apr 2007 08:47:42 -0700, softfingers3 DeleteThis @hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>On 20 Apr, 23:14, daytripper <day_tri... DeleteThis @REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 20 Apr 2007 13:42:53 -0700, softfinge... DeleteThis @hotmail.co.uk wrote:
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>> >I have a wireless network running and both the desktop and the laptops
>> >can access the internet. However, while the desktop can view the
>> >shared files on the laptop, the laptop's My Network Places is blank
>> >and of course cannot view the shared files on the desktop. The
>> >Workgroup name is same for both so why can one view it but the other
>> >can't?
>>
>> And the respective operating systems are - what ?
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>Both computers are running XP Home
Ok, is Simple File Sharing enabled on both systems? >> Stay informed about: My Network Places |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:42 pm
Post subject: Re: My Network Places [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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softfingers3.DeleteThis@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> I have a wireless network running and both the desktop and the laptops
> can access the internet. However, while the desktop can view the
> shared files on the laptop, the laptop's My Network Places is blank
> and of course cannot view the shared files on the desktop. The
> Workgroup name is same for both so why can one view it but the other
> can't?
You should try pinging each computer from each other. I suspect that the
laptop will not be able to reach the desktop, but the desktop will be
able to reach the laptop.
What I found seems to work (temporarily at least) is to ping the router
from the desktop, since that's the one not currently being seen. The
desktop will then wake up the router and the router will now cache the
desktop's MAC address in its ARP table. Usually within the network, the
two computers talk to each other directly over the subnet, bypassing the
router. However, in the case of WiFi, the router also acts as the
physical medium between the laptop and desktop wireless connections. If
these were both Ethernet connections then they'd have been able to talk
to each other directly through the router's built-in switch, bypassing
the routing functions. But in WiFi, the routing functions are still
involved.
Yousuf Khan
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:17 pm
Post subject: Re: My Network Places [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 21 Apr, 21:32, daytripper <day_tri....RemoveThis@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
> On 21 Apr 2007 08:47:42 -0700, softfinge....RemoveThis@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
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> >On 20 Apr, 23:14, daytripper <day_tri....RemoveThis@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On 20 Apr 2007 13:42:53 -0700, softfinge....RemoveThis@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
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> >> >I have a wireless network running and both the desktop and the laptops
> >> >can access the internet. However, while the desktop can view the
> >> >shared files on the laptop, the laptop's My Network Places is blank
> >> >and of course cannot view the shared files on the desktop. The
> >> >Workgroup name is same for both so why can one view it but the other
> >> >can't?
>
> >> And the respective operating systems are - what ?
>
> >Both computers are running XP Home
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> Ok, is Simple File Sharing enabled on both systems?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 11:38 pm
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On 21 Apr, 21:42, Yousuf Khan <bbb....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> softfinge....DeleteThis@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> > I have a wireless network running and both the desktop and the laptops
> > can access the internet. However, while the desktop can view the
> > shared files on the laptop, the laptop's My Network Places is blank
> > and of course cannot view the shared files on the desktop. The
> > Workgroup name is same for both so why can one view it but the other
> > can't?
>
> You should try pinging each computer from each other. I suspect that the
> laptop will not be able to reach the desktop, but the desktop will be
> able to reach the laptop.
>
> What I found seems to work (temporarily at least) is to ping the router
> from the desktop, since that's the one not currently being seen. The
> desktop will then wake up the router and the router will now cache the
> desktop's MAC address in its ARP table. Usually within the network, the
> two computers talk to each other directly over the subnet, bypassing the
> router. However, in the case of WiFi, the router also acts as the
> physical medium between the laptop and desktop wireless connections. If
> these were both Ethernet connections then they'd have been able to talk
> to each other directly through the router's built-in switch, bypassing
> the routing functions. But in WiFi, the routing functions are still
> involved.
>
> Yousuf Khan
>
> --
> There is no failure, only delayed success
Done as suggested above. The laptop can ping the gateway but not the
desktop while the desktop can ping the laptop. What would I have to do
to the gateway? >> Stay informed about: My Network Places |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:31 am
Post subject: Re: My Network Places [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 22 Apr, 07:45, Yousuf Khan <bbb....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> softfinge....RemoveThis@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> > Done as suggested above. The laptop can ping the gateway but not the
> > desktop while the desktop can ping the laptop. What would I have to do
> > to the gateway?
>
> Keep pinging the gateway from both computers and then try pinging each
> other. The problem is trying to get the gateway's ARP cache to cache
> both computers.
>
> Another possibility, if you're trying to share files with each other,
> why not setup an FTP server on your machines instead? A really simple
> and easy to use FTP server is Cerberus FTP. I've found FTP often works
> when Windows networking doesn't.
>
> Yousuf Khan
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> --
> There is no failure, only delayed success
Worked it out - it was the firewall on the desktop that was stopping
it. Once i put in the IP address of the laptop it worked. Thanks for
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:45 am
Post subject: Re: My Network Places [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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softfingers3 DeleteThis @hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> Done as suggested above. The laptop can ping the gateway but not the
> desktop while the desktop can ping the laptop. What would I have to do
> to the gateway?
Keep pinging the gateway from both computers and then try pinging each
other. The problem is trying to get the gateway's ARP cache to cache
both computers.
Another possibility, if you're trying to share files with each other,
why not setup an FTP server on your machines instead? A really simple
and easy to use FTP server is Cerberus FTP. I've found FTP often works
when Windows networking doesn't.
Yousuf Khan
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