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Tony A.

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Feb 06, 2004 6:17 pm
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My 1.8A is a bit of a dud for overclocking, at 2.4GHz it needs 1.8V to boot
reliably into win2k without BSODing, and 1.85V to make it through a
worthwhile Sandra burn-in session. This is a little scary, as that's the max
my mobo (Asus P4S533) can supply - 1.7V in the BIOS, plus a nominal extra
0.2V jumper setting, monitor reports as 1.85-1.87V.

I tend to assume that if it's stable and the temps are ok (40°C idle, levels
out at 55°C under load when the fan kicks up to 5000rpm), then no damage is
being done, but I still feel a bit uneasy with a 25% overvolt on vcore. I
know this has been discussed plenty before, but is there a concensus as to
whether it is safe to run that high a voltage permanently?

Tony

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:16 pm
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Tony A. wrote:
 > My 1.8A is a bit of a dud for overclocking, at 2.4GHz it needs 1.8V
 > to boot reliably into win2k without BSODing, and 1.85V to make it
 > through a worthwhile Sandra burn-in session. This is a little scary,
 > as that's the max my mobo (Asus P4S533) can supply - 1.7V in the
 > BIOS, plus a nominal extra
 > 0.2V jumper setting, monitor reports as 1.85-1.87V.
 >
 > I tend to assume that if it's stable and the temps are ok (40°C idle,
 > levels out at 55°C under load when the fan kicks up to 5000rpm), then
 > no damage is being done, but I still feel a bit uneasy with a 25%
 > overvolt on vcore. I know this has been discussed plenty before, but
 > is there a concensus as to whether it is safe to run that high a
 > voltage permanently?

IIRC, the chance of being hit with sudden northwood death syndrome increases
rapidly as you move above 1.7V vcore. So at 1.85V, you've got a high chance
of killing your northwood very quickly, regardless of the temperature.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 2:16 pm
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"Michael Brown" <see.RemoveThis@signature.below> wrote in message
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 > Tony A. wrote:
[...]
  > > no damage is being done, but I still feel a bit uneasy with a 25%
  > > overvolt on vcore. I know this has been discussed plenty before, but
  > > is there a concensus as to whether it is safe to run that high a
  > > voltage permanently?
 >
 > IIRC, the chance of being hit with sudden northwood death syndrome
increases
 > rapidly as you move above 1.7V vcore. So at 1.85V, you've got a high
chance
 > of killing your northwood very quickly, regardless of the temperature.
 >
Cheers, got good info googling for "northwood sudden death". Sounds like I
better back it off a bit then, or get a spare. That's depressing, if I stay
below 1.7V with this chip, I can barely hit 2GHz. Might have to bring
forward my next upgrade a bit.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:42 pm
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if you're planning on a spare why not get an 'old' 2.66ghz chip for £100

"Tony A." <you.dont DeleteThis @need.to.know> wrote in message
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 > "Michael Brown" <see DeleteThis @signature.below> wrote in message
 > news:KlUUb.36336$9k7.766761@news.xtra.co.nz...
  > > Tony A. wrote:
 > [...]
   > > > no damage is being done, but I still feel a bit uneasy with a 25%
   > > > overvolt on vcore. I know this has been discussed plenty before, but
   > > > is there a concensus as to whether it is safe to run that high a
   > > > voltage permanently?
  > >
  > > IIRC, the chance of being hit with sudden northwood death syndrome
 > increases
  > > rapidly as you move above 1.7V vcore. So at 1.85V, you've got a high
 > chance
  > > of killing your northwood very quickly, regardless of the temperature.
  > >
 > Cheers, got good info googling for "northwood sudden death". Sounds like I
 > better back it off a bit then, or get a spare. That's depressing, if I
stay
 > below 1.7V with this chip, I can barely hit 2GHz. Might have to bring
 > forward my next upgrade a bit.
 >
 > Tony
 >
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 3:06 pm
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"Simon" <noway.DeleteThis@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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 > if you're planning on a spare why not get an 'old' 2.66ghz chip for £100
 >
I was just contemplating something along those lines, or maybe a 2.8 for
~£110. I'm looking out for a suitable bargain, pity they seem to go for
almost new prices on ebay.

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