P5B Plus Q6600 only uses one core

Jim Krol wrote:
> I just set up a new system using the P5B Plus and a q6600 processor. It
> appears that it is only using one of the cores on the processor. Windows
> task manager only shows one window. The system runs slower than the old
> 2.6G processor it was supposed to replace. Is the processor bad or did I do
> something stupid in the setup or bios? I did upgrade to the new bios 604,
> which didn't help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Krol

The first thing I'd check - go to Device Manager, check the "Computer" entry.
The subentry underneath it is the HAL or Hardware Abstraction Layer.

For the more trivial HAL changes, you change the "Driver" for the HAL
entry. That process is described in an example here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/237556/en-us

If the computer was using a HAL of "Standard PC", you'd be in a real
mess. If, on the other hand, you're at "ACPI Uniprocessor PC", it
is going to be five minutes work to update the driver so that it
reads "ACPI Multiprocessor PC". Once you reboot, Task Manager should
start to show all your cores.

In the BIOS, there has to be support for ACPI. Occasionally, a bad
BIOS design will upset the repair install you are doing, and
bugger up the HAL entry. You have to make sure, that all the necessary
features have been turned on in the BIOS, before doing the repair
install. Otherwise, you'll need to fix Suspend To RAM with
programs like Microsoft's "dumppo", and mess around with
HAL changes and the like.

HTH,
Paul
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"Jim Krol" <jameskrol DeleteThis @qwest.net> wrote in message
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> I just set up a new system using the P5B Plus and a q6600 processor. It
> appears that it is only using one of the cores on the processor. Windows
> task manager only shows one window. The system runs slower than the old
> 2.6G processor it was supposed to replace. Is the processor bad or did I
do
> something stupid in the setup or bios? I did upgrade to the new bios 604,
> which didn't help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim Krol

Did you do a fresh install of windows?..

If the p5b had say a p4 or any other single core cpu, then swapping out the
cpu and starting the pc (after windows is installd ofc) will result in just
1 cpu being used..

So I guess that's the best place to start..
Fresh INSTALL of windows (and what version of windows?)
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Paul <nospam.TakeThisOut@needed.com> wrote in news:f5pgj0$5ca$1@aioe.org:

> Jim Krol wrote:
>> I just set up a new system using the P5B Plus and a q6600 processor.
>> It appears that it is only using one of the cores on the processor.
>> Windows task manager only shows one window. The system runs slower
>> than the old 2.6G processor it was supposed to replace. Is the
>> processor bad or did I do something stupid in the setup or bios? I
>> did upgrade to the new bios 604, which didn't help.
>>

This put me on the right track, but alas there is no joy in Mudville.
When I try to set up HAL in the setup the only option I get is i486 c-
<something> None of the acpi options.WinXP x64 gives me the multi option
but crashes when windows reboots to install. Is there something I have
to set in bios to tell it to run multiprocessor mode.I took the default
configuration in the bios. It looks like the bios is not telling windows
that it has a multiprocessor installed.Do I need to RMA this board
again! The first one would not even POST. I have always used the other
"A" companies motherboards and never had a problem. People have always
given great Kudos to Asus boards so I thought I'd try one. This
experience has not endeared me to Asus. Even a cheapo ECS board i used
came right up in multiprocessor mode. Any bios settings I should try??
Or, is there another 2 week RMA in my future.

Thanks,
JK


>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim Krol
>
> The first thing I'd check - go to Device Manager, check the "Computer"
> entry. The subentry underneath it is the HAL or Hardware Abstraction
> Layer.
>
> For the more trivial HAL changes, you change the "Driver" for the HAL
> entry. That process is described in an example here:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/237556/en-us
>
> If the computer was using a HAL of "Standard PC", you'd be in a real
> mess. If, on the other hand, you're at "ACPI Uniprocessor PC", it
> is going to be five minutes work to update the driver so that it
> reads "ACPI Multiprocessor PC". Once you reboot, Task Manager should
> start to show all your cores.
>
> In the BIOS, there has to be support for ACPI. Occasionally, a bad
> BIOS design will upset the repair install you are doing, and
> bugger up the HAL entry. You have to make sure, that all the necessary
> features have been turned on in the BIOS, before doing the repair
> install. Otherwise, you'll need to fix Suspend To RAM with
> programs like Microsoft's "dumppo", and mess around with
> HAL changes and the like.
>
> HTH,
> Paul
>
>
>
>
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I tried a repair. Now I am working on fresh installs. Winxp Sp 2 does
not recognize multiprocessor. See my other reply for the sad tale of
woe.

Thanks,

JK

"mr deo" <rstlne.TakeThisOut@atatwhereherewheretherehuyeh.com> wrote in
news:ZfXfi.4147$RD3.2640@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net:

>
> "Jim Krol" <jameskrol.TakeThisOut@qwest.net> wrote in message
> news:Xns995A5C02EF236jameskrolqwestnet@65.115.167.5...
>> I just set up a new system using the P5B Plus and a q6600 processor.
>> It appears that it is only using one of the cores on the processor.
>> Windows task manager only shows one window. The system runs slower
>> than the old 2.6G processor it was supposed to replace. Is the
>> processor bad or did I
> do
>> something stupid in the setup or bios? I did upgrade to the new bios
>> 604, which didn't help.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim Krol
>
> Did you do a fresh install of windows?..
>
> If the p5b had say a p4 or any other single core cpu, then swapping
> out the cpu and starting the pc (after windows is installd ofc) will
> result in just 1 cpu being used..
>
> So I guess that's the best place to start..
> Fresh INSTALL of windows (and what version of windows?)
>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: P5B Plus Q6600 only uses one core 

I think power is OK. All the power receptacles are full, the four holer and
the main are all full. The case is recent. less than 6 months so it should
have proper power. 400+ watts.

Thanks,

JK

"RobV" <robert RemoveThis @nowhere.invalid> wrote in
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> Jim Krol wrote:
>> I just set up a new system using the P5B Plus and a q6600 processor.
>> It appears that it is only using one of the cores on the processor.
>> Windows task manager only shows one window. The system runs slower
>> than the old
>> 2.6G processor it was supposed to replace. Is the processor bad or
>> did I do something stupid in the setup or bios? I did upgrade to the
>> new bios 604, which didn't help.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim Krol
>
> What make, wattage PSU do you have? Does it have a 24 pin connector for
> the ATX 2 socket and do you have the 4-pin plug plugged in near the CPU?
>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: P5B Plus Q6600 only uses one core 

Jim Krol wrote:
> Paul <nospam.TakeThisOut@needed.com> wrote in news:f5pgj0$5ca$1@aioe.org:
>
>> Jim Krol wrote:
>>> I just set up a new system using the P5B Plus and a q6600 processor.
>>> It appears that it is only using one of the cores on the processor.
>>> Windows task manager only shows one window. The system runs slower
>>> than the old 2.6G processor it was supposed to replace. Is the
>>> processor bad or did I do something stupid in the setup or bios? I
>>> did upgrade to the new bios 604, which didn't help.
>>>
>
> This put me on the right track, but alas there is no joy in Mudville.
> When I try to set up HAL in the setup the only option I get is i486 c-
> <something> None of the acpi options.WinXP x64 gives me the multi option
> but crashes when windows reboots to install. Is there something I have
> to set in bios to tell it to run multiprocessor mode.I took the default
> configuration in the bios. It looks like the bios is not telling windows
> that it has a multiprocessor installed.Do I need to RMA this board
> again! The first one would not even POST. I have always used the other
> "A" companies motherboards and never had a problem. People have always
> given great Kudos to Asus boards so I thought I'd try one. This
> experience has not endeared me to Asus. Even a cheapo ECS board i used
> came right up in multiprocessor mode. Any bios settings I should try??
> Or, is there another 2 week RMA in my future.
>
> Thanks,
> JK
>

I cannot see anything too obvious. There is an "ACPI 2.0" setting
which is [Disabled] by default. I presume Windows can install with
a couple different values for that, so that probably isn't the problem.

The BIOS does pass a table of info, during POST, which is used by the
OS or OS installer, for setup. Maybe something is amiss there, but the
Asus CPUSupport page seems to show little reason to have to change the
BIOS version, to support the newest processors.

http://support.asus.com.tw/cpusupport/cpu_support_right_master.aspx?ty...1&name=

The download page lists a 0604 BIOS, with:

"Add new uCode to support new processors"

There was a microcode patch for Core2 released recently, and the
Microsoft microcode loader also received a copy of new microcode.
BIOS images have a microcode section in them, supporting multiple
family codes, and that is where a microcode patch would come from
during POST. For an OS like WinXP, Microsoft has their own microcode
loader. It tries to load a more recent microcode, if for example,
one was downloaded during Windows Update. The microcode loader would
be doing this when the desktop appears, so the most recent microcode
patch would be missing during the boot sequence.

I don't see a setting in the manual, for disabling cores, but maybe
there is one there somewhere. Since your install is detecting
some freaky looking HAL, there must be some problem with the tables
being passed from the BIOS.

If you are on broadband, you could get a copy of Knoppix (Knopper.net)
and burn the 700MB ISO to a CD. Boot from the CD and watch the boot
messages. See if four "Penguin" icons appear, as that suggests Linux
has picked up the four cores. The Linux boot sequence will display
text messages, and some of those will include little snippets about
the BIOS tables being passed and used. Possibly the "dmesg" command
could be used later, to review the bootup text messages.

DMI 2.3 present.
ACPI: RSDP (v000 PTLTD ) @ 0x000f7100
ACPI: RSDT (v001 PTLTD RSDT 0x06040000 LTP 0x00000000) @ 0x7fefcf28
ACPI: FADT (v001 AMD TECATE 0x06040000 PTL 0x000f4240) @ 0x7fefef2e
ACPI: MADT (v001 PTLTD APIC 0x06040000 LTP 0x00000000) @ 0x7fefefa2
ACPI: DSDT (v001 AMD AMDACPI 0x06040000 MSFT 0x0100000d) @ 0x00000000
Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information

If you run out of other things to try, then a BIOS update might be
a possible next step.

Paul
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"Jim Krol" <jameskrol DeleteThis @qwest.net> wrote in message
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> Paul <nospam DeleteThis @needed.com> wrote in news:f5pgj0$5ca$1@aioe.org:
>
>> Jim Krol wrote:
>>> I just set up a new system using the P5B Plus and a q6600 processor.
>>> It appears that it is only using one of the cores on the processor.
>>> Windows task manager only shows one window. The system runs slower
>>> than the old 2.6G processor it was supposed to replace. Is the
>>> processor bad or did I do something stupid in the setup or bios? I
>>> did upgrade to the new bios 604, which didn't help.

Disable ACPI 2.0

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