PSP or Photoshop

On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:39:41 +0200, "SleeperMan"
<SleeperMan RemoveThis @too.sleepy> vaguely proposed a theory
.......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

If you're dinkum, PhotoShop's a LOT more expensive. But grab the trial
and see for yourself! Nobody else can tell you the truth about this.

Noise Ninja.

 >For now i use Paint Shop Pro (ver to correct or modify my photos. But i
 >wonder, is Adobe's Photoshop better for this job? Does anyone has any
 >experience? I mean stuff like correcting brightness, saturation, etc. And
 >does anyone have any noise removal tool? (For removing noise in lowlight
 >shot photos)
 >THX
 >

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Tallis Travis Talbert typed:

 > "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan.DeleteThis@too.sleepy> wrote in message
 > news:yWJic.1549$37.223911@news.siol.net...
  >> For now i use Paint Shop Pro (ver to correct or modify my photos.
  >> But i wonder, is Adobe's Photoshop better for this job? Does anyone
  >> has any experience? I mean stuff like correcting brightness,
  >> saturation, etc. And does anyone have any noise removal tool? (For
  >> removing noise in lowlight shot photos)
  >> THX
  >>
 >
 >
 > Another alternative you may want to try is Gimp. It's cross
 > paltform, free, very stable and has an excellent collection of
<font color=purple> > filters. It's at: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gimp.org/</font" target="_blank">http://www.gimp.org/</font</a>>

Too complicated...i would need c compiler and god know what else...they say
it can be found compiled version. But i don't find it.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Old Nick typed:

 > On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:39:41 +0200, "SleeperMan"
 > <SleeperMan.RemoveThis@too.sleepy> vaguely proposed a theory
 > ......and in reply I say!:
 > remove ns from my header address to reply via email
 >
 > If you're dinkum, PhotoShop's a LOT more expensive. But grab the trial
 > and see for yourself! Nobody else can tell you the truth about this.


You have the point here. Maybe i'll do that...

 >
 > Noise Ninja.
 >
  >> For now i use Paint Shop Pro (ver to correct or modify my photos.
  >> But i wonder, is Adobe's Photoshop better for this job? Does anyone
  >> has any experience? I mean stuff like correcting brightness,
  >> saturation, etc. And does anyone have any noise removal tool? (For
  >> removing noise in lowlight shot photos)
  >> THX
  >>
 >
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 >> Stay informed about: PSP or Photoshop 

"SleeperMan" <SleeperMan.TakeThisOut@too.sleepy> wrote:
 >Tallis Travis Talbert typed:
 >
  >> "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan.TakeThisOut@too.sleepy> wrote in message
  >> news:yWJic.1549$37.223911@news.siol.net...
   >>> For now i use Paint Shop Pro (ver to correct or modify my photos.
   >>> But i wonder, is Adobe's Photoshop better for this job? Does anyone
   >>> has any experience? I mean stuff like correcting brightness,
   >>> saturation, etc. And does anyone have any noise removal tool? (For
   >>> removing noise in lowlight shot photos)
   >>> THX
   >>>
  >>
  >>
  >> Another alternative you may want to try is Gimp. It's cross
  >> paltform, free, very stable and has an excellent collection of
<font color=green>  >> filters. It's at: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gimp.org/</font" target="_blank">http://www.gimp.org/</font</a>>
 >
 >Too complicated...i would need c compiler and god know what else...they say
 >it can be found compiled version. But i don't find it.
 >

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gimp.org/windows/" target="_blank">http://www.gimp.org/windows/</a>
tells you:

Getting and Installing the GIMP

This site, <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gimp.org," target="_blank">www.gimp.org,</a> only distributes the source code to the GIMP
(the building blocks). You can download executable versions from the
following site:

* Jernej Simoncic ( <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/" target="_blank">http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/</a> )provides
an installer program that automates the installation process. This is
the most convenient way to install the GIMP for Windows.

The stable version is at
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/stable.html" target="_blank">http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/stable.html</a> and you need to
download both the GIMP toolkit as well as the GIMP - just like it
says. No compiling required.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:39:41 +0200, SleeperMan wrote:

 > For now i use Paint Shop Pro (ver to correct or modify my photos. But i
 > wonder, is Adobe's Photoshop better for this job? Does anyone has any
 > experience? I mean stuff like correcting brightness, saturation, etc. And
 > does anyone have any noise removal tool? (For removing noise in lowlight
 > shot photos)
 > THX

Stick with PSP. I've used both, and I prefer PSP over Photoshop. It seems
easier to use, it starts up faster, and I haven't found anything missing
from it.

I also use GIMP on Linux (it comes precompiled). It's very powerful too,
but I'm not as familiar with its menus so I sometimes get lost.
--
Gerry Wheeler
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Gerry Wheeler typed:

 > On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:39:41 +0200, SleeperMan wrote:
 >
  >> For now i use Paint Shop Pro (ver to correct or modify my photos.
  >> But i wonder, is Adobe's Photoshop better for this job? Does anyone
  >> has any experience? I mean stuff like correcting brightness,
  >> saturation, etc. And does anyone have any noise removal tool? (For
  >> removing noise in lowlight shot photos)
  >> THX
 >
 > Stick with PSP. I've used both, and I prefer PSP over Photoshop. It
 > seems easier to use, it starts up faster, and I haven't found
 > anything missing from it.
 >
 > I also use GIMP on Linux (it comes precompiled). It's very powerful
 > too, but I'm not as familiar with its menus so I sometimes get lost.

Yeah, lucky one... I guess this is the only good thing in
Linux...precompiled Gimp...
I searched a bit and supposely it takes 1/2 to 1 hour!!! to compile...
damn...tooooooo long!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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SleeperMan wrote:

 > Gerry Wheeler typed:
 >
  >> too, but I'm not as familiar with its menus so I sometimes get lost.
 >
 > Yeah, lucky one... I guess this is the only good thing in
 > Linux...precompiled Gimp...
 > I searched a bit and supposely it takes 1/2 to 1 hour!!! to compile...
 > damn...tooooooo long!
I didn't understand what took u so long to compile. Can u be a little more
specific?
--

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Josef G. typed:

 > SleeperMan wrote:
 >
  >> Gerry Wheeler typed:
  >>
   >>> too, but I'm not as familiar with its menus so I sometimes get lost.
  >>
  >> Yeah, lucky one... I guess this is the only good thing in
  >> Linux...precompiled Gimp...
  >> I searched a bit and supposely it takes 1/2 to 1 hour!!! to
  >> compile... damn...tooooooo long!
 > I didn't understand what took u so long to compile. Can u be a little
 > more specific?

I didn't compile. I just read info about installing on official site and
they say it's more than 300.000 lines to compile which takes more than 30
minutes. But the main problem is compiling - i don't have C compiler, and if
i install that installer from arnes.si...it doesn't help me nothing.
I'm missing something here...maybe a compiled program.... <!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 22:11:10 +0300, "Josef G." <ns_golojo.DeleteThis@yahoo.com>
was understood to have stated the following:

  >> I searched a bit and supposely it takes 1/2 to 1 hour!!! to compile...
  >> damn...tooooooo long!
 >I didn't understand what took u so long to compile. Can u be a little more
 >specific?

A textile image processing suite I authored and maintained took about
45 minutes for a full build.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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I have both PSP v7 and Photoshop Elements v2.

Adobe product start so slooowwwwww. I get mad at it before its running.
once its going its OK.
Adobe does somethings better than PSP. I think PSP is easier to use.

The only pics that I commonly need to touch up are panoramics...

--Jay

"SleeperMan" <SleeperMan.TakeThisOut@too.sleepy> wrote in message
news:yWJic.1549$37.223911@news.siol.net...
 > For now i use Paint Shop Pro (ver to correct or modify my photos. But i
 > wonder, is Adobe's Photoshop better for this job? Does anyone has any
 > experience? I mean stuff like correcting brightness, saturation, etc. And
 > does anyone have any noise removal tool? (For removing noise in lowlight
 > shot photos)
 > THX
 >
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"Gerry Wheeler" <gwheelerz.DeleteThis@qolpublishing.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.04.25.18.03.21.529297@qolpublishing.com...
 > On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:39:41 +0200, SleeperMan wrote:
 >
  > > For now i use Paint Shop Pro (ver to correct or modify my photos. But
i
  > > wonder, is Adobe's Photoshop better for this job? Does anyone has any
  > > experience? I mean stuff like correcting brightness, saturation, etc.
And
  > > does anyone have any noise removal tool? (For removing noise in lowlight
  > > shot photos)
  > > THX
 >
 > Stick with PSP. I've used both, and I prefer PSP over Photoshop. It seems
 > easier to use, it starts up faster, and I haven't found anything missing
 > from it.
 > Gerry Wheeler
 > Naples, FL
 >

PSP has the fasted graphics browser I've used. It's a great programme. But
Phtotoshop Elements, much cheaper than PhotoShopPro, has the best 'Enhance'
mode I've used. So, heck, I use PSP v 5.0 for pic file browsing, and
Photoshop elemsents for enhancing etc.The latter is really a cut-down
version of PhototoShop pro, but without all the bells and whisltes that
amateurs just don't use anyway.

Eddie<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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user.RemoveThis@hotmail.com typed:

 > "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan.RemoveThis@too.sleepy> wrote:
  >> Tallis Travis Talbert typed:
  >>
   >>> "SleeperMan" <SleeperMan.RemoveThis@too.sleepy> wrote in message
   >>> news:yWJic.1549$37.223911@news.siol.net...
   >>>> For now i use Paint Shop Pro (ver to correct or modify my
   >>>> photos. But i wonder, is Adobe's Photoshop better for this job?
   >>>> Does anyone has any experience? I mean stuff like correcting
   >>>> brightness, saturation, etc. And does anyone have any noise
   >>>> removal tool? (For removing noise in lowlight shot photos)
   >>>> THX
   >>>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> Another alternative you may want to try is Gimp. It's cross
   >>> paltform, free, very stable and has an excellent collection of
<font color=brown>   >>> filters. It's at: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gimp.org/</font" target="_blank">http://www.gimp.org/</font</a>>
  >>
  >> Too complicated...i would need c compiler and god know what
  >> else...they say it can be found compiled version. But i don't find
  >> it.
  >>
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gimp.org/windows/</font" target="_blank">http://www.gimp.org/windows/</font</a>>
 > tells you:
 >
 > Getting and Installing the GIMP
 >
 > This site, <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.gimp.org," target="_blank">www.gimp.org,</a> only distributes the source code to the GIMP
 > (the building blocks). You can download executable versions from the
 > following site:
 >
 > * Jernej Simoncic ( <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/" target="_blank">http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/</a> )provides
 > an installer program that automates the installation process. This is
 > the most convenient way to install the GIMP for Windows.
 >
 > The stable version is at
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/stable.html" target="_blank">http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/gimp/stable.html</a> and you need to
 > download both the GIMP toolkit as well as the GIMP - just like it
 > says. No compiling required.

AHA! I saw toolkit and installed it - but didn''t see program below. Thanks.
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Eddie typed:

 > "Gerry Wheeler" <gwheelerz.DeleteThis@qolpublishing.com> wrote in message
 > news:pan.2004.04.25.18.03.21.529297@qolpublishing.com...
  >> On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:39:41 +0200, SleeperMan wrote:
  >>
   >>> For now i use Paint Shop Pro (ver to correct or modify my
   >>> photos. But i wonder, is Adobe's Photoshop better for this job?
   >>> Does anyone has any experience? I mean stuff like correcting
   >>> brightness, saturation, etc. And does anyone have any noise removal
   >>> tool? (For removing noise in lowlight shot photos)
   >>> THX
  >>
  >> Stick with PSP. I've used both, and I prefer PSP over Photoshop. It
  >> seems easier to use, it starts up faster, and I haven't found
  >> anything missing from it.
  >> Gerry Wheeler
  >> Naples, FL
  >>
 >
 > PSP has the fasted graphics browser I've used. It's a great
 > programme. But Phtotoshop Elements, much cheaper than PhotoShopPro,
 > has the best 'Enhance' mode I've used. So, heck, I use PSP v 5.0 for
 > pic file browsing, and Photoshop elemsents for enhancing etc.The
 > latter is really a cut-down version of PhototoShop pro, but without
 > all the bells and whisltes that amateurs just don't use anyway.
 >
 > Eddie

I don't use PSP for browsing, i just need a good program with filters for
photos, like BW correction, color, contrast ...correction. I don't need
those for all photos, just some come out not so good and need to be
corrected. I think PSP (especially V has some very good photo filters. I
just wonder if Photoshop has better ones...
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