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Manuel Silva

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 11:52 pm
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Hi, I'm building my own Computer. The Hardware is:

P 4 2.8E
512 Mb DDR 400
MSI 865PE
Seagate 7200 RPM 200Gb
MSI FX 5600 VTDR256
CD-ROM
CD-WRITER
Antec Case 300W ATX

My question is about the Wattage of the PSU. Are 300W suficient?

Silva
Portugal

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Alex12

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 7:23 am
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No - check out this site for a rough estimation
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/" target="_blank">http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/</a>

Your minimum would be 346 watts

"Manuel Silva" <minasdomingos.DeleteThis@sapo.pt> wrote in message
news:405cb04f$0$1790$a729d347@news.telepac.pt...
 > Hi, I'm building my own Computer. The Hardware is:
 >
 > P 4 2.8E
 > 512 Mb DDR 400
 > MSI 865PE
 > Seagate 7200 RPM 200Gb
 > MSI FX 5600 VTDR256
 > CD-ROM
 > CD-WRITER
 > Antec Case 300W ATX
 >
 > My question is about the Wattage of the PSU. Are 300W suficient?
 >
 > Silva
 > Portugal
 >
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kony

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 9:05 am
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On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 04:23:39 GMT, "Alex" <blaghlakj.TakeThisOut@goaway.org> wrote:

 >No - check out this site for a rough estimation
 >http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/
 >
 >Your minimum would be 346 watts
 >

After a while it gets tiring to keep explaining why that online calc is
worse than worthless.

It is not even slightly useful, will result in an estimate far above
what's actually needed.

However, oddly enough you did ballpark a good wattage, 350W-400W (from a
decent name-brand unit) would be the preferred choice, though a good 300W
would probably run the system too.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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computer_jesus

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:19 pm
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On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 20:52:42 -0000, "Manuel Silva"
<minasdomingos.DeleteThis@sapo.pt> wrote:

 >Hi, I'm building my own Computer. The Hardware is:
 >
 >P 4 2.8E
 >512 Mb DDR 400
 >MSI 865PE
 >Seagate 7200 RPM 200Gb
 >MSI FX 5600 VTDR256
 >CD-ROM
 >CD-WRITER
 >Antec Case 300W ATX
 >
 >My question is about the Wattage of the PSU. Are 300W suficient?
 >
 >Silva
 >Portugal
 >

If you get the Antec Sonata case you get their 380watt antec power
supply that is apparently pretty under rated compared to the usual
suspects.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.silentpcreview.com/article61-page1.html" target="_blank">http://www.silentpcreview.com/article61-page1.html</a>

good review under real loads.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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do_not_spam_me

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 3:35 pm
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"Manuel Silva" <minasdomingos DeleteThis @sapo.pt> wrote in message news:<405cb04f$0$1790$a729d347@news.telepac.pt>...

 > P 4 2.8E MSI 865PE Seagate 7200 RPM 200Gb
 > MSI FX 5600 VTDR256 CD-ROM CD-WRITER
 > Antec 300W ATX
 >
 > My question is about the Wattage of the PSU. Are 300W suficient?

Try the power estimator at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://takaman.jp," target="_blank">http://takaman.jp,</a> but realize that every
estimator, except possibly the one at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pcpowerandcooling.com," target="_blank">www.pcpowerandcooling.com,</a> gives
watt numbers that are much too high, one of the worst being from
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.jscustompcs.com." target="_blank">www.jscustompcs.com.</a>

A 300W supply _should_ be able to run your system, but in practice it
probably won't, unless the supply is in the top tier in quality, and
Antecs aren't quite up there unless they're Truepower models (you
proably have a Solution Series or Smartpower). Some supplies that are
top tier include PC Power & Cooling, Fortron-Source (some PCP&Cs are
based on them, as are many low-noise supplies), Zippy, HEC (not all),
Win-tact, Astec, Channel Well (only the "A" series, which are
essentially Antec Truepowers), Delta, and about anything found in a
major brand computer. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.newegg.com" target="_blank">www.newegg.com</a> has Fortron-Source supplies at
good prices, and a 350-400W model should be able to handle anything.
If you get the 400W, be sure it's the one with a single 120mm fan on
top because it should be quieter, and it has a slightly higher +12V
capacity, the latter a possibly important factor when the motherboard
uses +12V for CPU power and you have several disk drives.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Alex12

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 10:36 pm
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Ok. I didn't realize that page was a bad indicator of minimum spec on a
power supply.
For this situation, I always recommend buying a power supply seperate from
teh case (usually junk in teh combo deals)
An Antec 400 watt would be perfect.
"kony" <spam.RemoveThis@spam.com> wrote in message
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 > On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 04:23:39 GMT, "Alex" <blaghlakj.RemoveThis@goaway.org> wrote:
 >
  > >No - check out this site for a rough estimation
  > >http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/
  > >
  > >Your minimum would be 346 watts
  > >
 >
 > After a while it gets tiring to keep explaining why that online calc is
 > worse than worthless.
 >
 > It is not even slightly useful, will result in an estimate far above
 > what's actually needed.
 >
 > However, oddly enough you did ballpark a good wattage, 350W-400W (from a
 > decent name-brand unit) would be the preferred choice, though a good 300W
 > would probably run the system too.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Manuel Silva

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:41 am
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Thanks to all, I just want to refer that the case ANTEC Performance Series
II SX630II has the following

Features:
a.. 3.0 Ghz compatible
b.. European version of SX630II
c.. SmartPower - runs cooler and quieter.
d.. ATX12V for AMDT and IntelŪ systems, including PentiumŪ IV.


Is this not trust worty?

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2004 7:53 am
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"Manuel Silva" <minasdomingos.RemoveThis@sapo.pt> wrote in message
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 > Thanks to all, I just want to refer that the case ANTEC Performance Series
 > II SX630II has the following
 >
 > Features:
 > a.. 3.0 Ghz compatible
 > b.. European version of SX630II
 > c.. SmartPower - runs cooler and quieter.
 > d.. ATX12V for AMDT and IntelŪ systems, including PentiumŪ IV.
 >
 >
 > Is this not trust worty?
 >


For what it's worth.........yes.

a. an essentially meaningless statement

b. power supply will handle your AC input voltage

c. variable speed fans in the power supply........same as lots of other P/Ss

d. it has the 4 pin plug for P4 motherboards........same as lots of other
P/Ss


Remember that Antec is a marketer and NOT a manufacturer. Antec picks
various components to sell with their name on it. These components are
***usually*** fairly high quality and reliable but you will almost always
pay extra for the "Antec" name they slap on it.


As a marketer, Antec is only going to list "features" they feel will help to
sell more product.


Look around and you will find the same cases, etc. that Antec sells for
substantially less because it won't have the "Antec" name on it.


However, if you can find a sale on an "Antec" labeled item that brings it
down to about the same price as from the actual manufacturer then buy it as
you may get a longer warranty through Antec.


--
callsignviper


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