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ozbyoz

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:04 am
Post subject: PT800CE-A / PC3200 memory anomoly
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Quick synopsis:
PT800CE-A - Bios 1.1A
Prescott (P4) 3.0 GHZ
ThermalTake Pure Power 420 Watt
KingMax - 2, 512 sticks of PC3200

Here's the deal. I can use 1 stick of memory in slot 1 or 2 and memory
testers(memtest32 and M$ one) will not show any errors. Put BOTH
sticks in and forget it - error - error - error(pass/test 5 on
memtest32 will have 15,000 - 32,000 errors), the system is also very
unstable(BSOD's, random reboots). Any thoughts on why the memory will
show no errors(and stable system) if use just 1 stick, but many if both
inserted?

For now I slapped in a 512 and 256 of some PC2700 memory and no errors,
stable system.

Ideas?

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ozbyoz

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:37 pm
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Andre LaFramboise wrote:
 > I too have the same problem 2 sticks random reboots 1 stick all is
fine.I
 > emailed ecs but have not got a reply yet.may need a bios update.
=======
Did you try any memory tests? Also what speed is the RAM? The PC2700
seems fine (so far). Going to run memtest-86 V3.2 for a few hours and
expect it to come up clean.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:35 pm
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I too have the same problem 2 sticks random reboots 1 stick all is fine.I
emailed ecs but have not got a reply yet.may need a bios update.
"Duh_OZ" <ozbyoz.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1106586263.258193.275550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
 > Quick synopsis:
 > PT800CE-A - Bios 1.1A
 > Prescott (P4) 3.0 GHZ
 > ThermalTake Pure Power 420 Watt
 > KingMax - 2, 512 sticks of PC3200
 >
 > Here's the deal. I can use 1 stick of memory in slot 1 or 2 and memory
 > testers(memtest32 and M$ one) will not show any errors. Put BOTH
 > sticks in and forget it - error - error - error(pass/test 5 on
 > memtest32 will have 15,000 - 32,000 errors), the system is also very
 > unstable(BSOD's, random reboots). Any thoughts on why the memory will
 > show no errors(and stable system) if use just 1 stick, but many if both
 > inserted?
 >
 > For now I slapped in a 512 and 256 of some PC2700 memory and no errors,
 > stable system.
 >
 > Ideas?
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:35 pm
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yes i did a memory test that runs from a boot disk forgot what it is called
version 3.2 though.the ram is Samsung pc3200 recommended by ecs.test were
fine
"Duh_OZ" <ozbyoz.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > Andre LaFramboise wrote:
  > > I too have the same problem 2 sticks random reboots 1 stick all is
 > fine.I
  > > emailed ecs but have not got a reply yet.may need a bios update.
 > =======
 > Did you try any memory tests? Also what speed is the RAM? The PC2700
 > seems fine (so far). Going to run memtest-86 V3.2 for a few hours and
 > expect it to come up clean.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:57 pm
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Duh_OZ wrote:
 > Going to run memtest-86 V3.2 for a few hours and
 > expect it to come up clean.
=======
So much for 'clean' - 32 errors in 16 passes. Much better than the
200,000 - 500,000 I would have received with the PC3200 in the slots
though!

I'll let you know if I hear anything from them.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:32 pm
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Quick update - the PC3200 memory was tested in another computer (by the
guy who built my computer) and sure enough - 1 stick works fine,
together they bring BSOD's. Although I'm not too happy the 'lesser'
memory also errored out, 2 new sticks of PC3200 memory will arriving.
Stay tuned for more of "As the computer crashes" ;-(
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 6:17 pm
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I too am having the same problems (exactly). downloaded and installed
new BIOS version 1.1E. did not do any good. same memory errors, same
occasional random crashes.
I am going to take the memory back and try the slower 2700.
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Thagor

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:35 pm
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plmcguir DeleteThis @cableaz-dot-com.no-spam.invalid (plmcguir) wrote in news:42152607
$1_5@alt.athenanews.com:

 > I too am having the same problems (exactly). downloaded and installed
 > new BIOS version 1.1E. did not do any good. same memory errors, same
 > occasional random crashes.
 > I am going to take the memory back and try the slower 2700.
 >
 >
I'm using Ultra 512, PC3200(Cheapest I could find) on a PM800 model with
BIOS 1.2d. Works like a charm now for 6 Months and running.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 5:18 pm
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 12:35 am
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deniseleannclark.DeleteThis@comcast-dot-net.no-spam.invalid (Jasonw) wrote in
news:42190ca9$1_2@alt.athenanews.com:

 > Where did you find 1.2D?
 >
 >

Are you asking about the PM-800 BIOS? If so, it's on the TW site.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Duh_OZ

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 7:43 am
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Quick synopsis:
PT800CE-A - Bios 1.1A
Prescott (P4) 3.0 GHZ
ThermalTake Pure Power 420 Watt
KingMax - 2, 512 sticks of PC3200
===========
Update - got two replacement Kingmax 512MB DDR-400 sticks and the same
problem. Put two sticks in, run memtest32 and watch the errors fly by
on test #5 (5 digit error count to be exact).

They werealso tried on a machine that could only access at 333 MHZ
speed and no errors. I'll be trying two 512, PC2700 instead and see
what happens.

Looks like a sync problem?

BTW - PT800, not PM800 on my end.
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Duh_OZ

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:26 am
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plmcguir wrote:
 > I too am having the same problems (exactly). downloaded and
installed
 > new BIOS version 1.1E. did not do any good. same memory errors,
same
 > occasional random crashes.
 > I am going to take the memory back and try the slower 2700.
===========
What PCB version do you have? I see 1.1e is for PCB:1.0. I have 1.0A
and want to ensure the BIOS upgrade won't hose my computer. I did
e-mail tech support just now asking if the BIOS was OK to flash.

I'll post the results.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:17 pm
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My M/B shipped the the 1.1A, and I flashed it with the newer 1.1E
thinking that would fix the problem. it didn't. didn't hose the
computer either though.
Took the two 512 3200 DIMMS back and exchanged them for 2 512 MB 2700
DDR's and have had no problems since!
Definately a problem the the board and/or the BIOS for the board.
ECS won't admit to it though. I went through their tech suppt, and
all I got was "It's Windows problem" I told them the mem tests were
failing from a direct booted disk. had nothing to do with Windows.

Bottom line here is: if you want faster ram, pay more money for a
better board to run it on. Last time I'll go with ECS (EliteGroup).






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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 7:26 am
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plmcguir wrote:
 > My M/B shipped the the 1.1A, and I flashed it with the newer 1.1E
 > thinking that would fix the problem. it didn't. didn't hose the
 > computer either though.
 > Took the two 512 3200 DIMMS back and exchanged them for 2 512 MB 2700
 > DDR's and have had no problems since!
 > Definately a problem the the board and/or the BIOS for the board.
 > ECS won't admit to it though. I went through their tech suppt, and
 > all I got was "It's Windows problem" I told them the mem tests were
 > failing from a direct booted disk. had nothing to do with Windows.
 >
 > Bottom line here is: if you want faster ram, pay more money for a
 > better board to run it on. Last time I'll go with ECS (EliteGroup).
 >
================
I did receive an e-mail from tech-support stating I can flash the BIOS
for the PCB: 1.0A but no guarantee it will solve the memory woes. I
probably won't have access to the PC-3200 chips until the week of the
week of March 2nd. Hopefully I won't be stuck with the PC-2700 also
;-(

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:17 pm
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I bought the same board from Fry's. I had problems and thought it was
with overheating of the CPU. Bottom line, I found the problem was
with my generic memory.

Unde Advance Chipset Features I found something called DRAM Timing
(Auto by SPD). From what I read, the BIOS has a table listing
memory by manufacturer and model. Since my memory was not listed, it
assumed (wrongly) I had 200 MHZ memory. When I set it correctly for
DDR333 (166 MHZ) manually in this area, I had no problems!!
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