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hizark21

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:15 am
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Recommended USB HD kits...??

Does anyone have any recommendations on which USB Kit has the best
shock mounting..?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 12:02 pm
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Previously hizark21 RemoveThis @yahoo.com <hizark21 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> Recommended USB HD kits...??

> Does anyone have any recommendations on which USB Kit has the best
> shock mounting..?

From my observations, none have any shock mounting at all.

Arno

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:22 pm
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hizark21.DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:

> Recommended USB HD kits...??
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations on which USB Kit has the best
> shock mounting..?

FatWallet.com has a big thread about them, entitled "The official
external ENCLOSURE thread":

http://www.fatwallet.com/t/28/496281/

I don't think any enclosures have shock mounts, but a lot of them have
poor ventilation (you may want to mount the drive 1/8" above the
bottom with plastic washers or spacers to fix that), and some have
internal power supplies that aren't UL listed and could be kind of
dangerous.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:14 am
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larry moe 'n curly wrote in
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> hizark21 DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Recommended USB HD kits...??
> >
> > Does anyone have any recommendations on which USB Kit has the best
> > shock mounting..?
>
> FatWallet.com has a big thread about them, entitled "The official
> external ENCLOSURE thread":
>
> http://www.fatwallet.com/t/28/496281/

> I don't think any enclosures have shock mounts,

Maybe because you are not supposed to throw them?
And when you (accidentally) throw them - no (reasonable)
amount of shock mount can save them.

> but a lot of them have poor ventilation

> (you may want to mount the drive 1/8" above the
> bottom with plastic washers or spacers to fix that),

Won't help if no ventilation is available.
May even worsen the situation since you're adding more insulation.

> and some have internal power supplies that aren't UL listed
> and could be kind of dangerous.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 8:32 am
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I am considering Sorbothane rubber washers or using Sorothane sheeting
on the outside as well. The question is if there will be enough
clearance for the washers.

On Jan 19, 9:22 pm, "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencu... DeleteThis @my-deja.com>
wrote:
> hizar... DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
> > Recommended USB HD kits...??
>
> > Does anyone have any recommendations on which USB Kit has the best
> > shock mounting..?
>
> FatWallet.com has a big thread about them, entitled "The official
> external ENCLOSURE thread":
>
> http://www.fatwallet.com/t/28/496281/
>
> I don't think any enclosures have shock mounts, but a lot of them have
> poor ventilation (you may want to mount the drive 1/8" above the
> bottom with plastic washers or spacers to fix that), and some have
> internal power supplies that aren't UL listed and could be kind of
> dangerous.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 5:09 pm
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Folkert Rienstra wrote:

> larry moe 'n curly wrote in

> > I don't think any enclosures have shock mounts,
>
> Maybe because you are not supposed to throw them?

If we're supposed to throw computer equipment, why was Microsoft
Windows invented?
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:28 pm
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Arno Wagner wrote:

> Previously larry moe 'n curly <larrymoencurly.TakeThisOut@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
> > Folkert Rienstra wrote:
>
> >> larry moe 'n curly wrote in
>
> >> > I don't think any enclosures have shock mounts,
> >>
> >> Maybe because you are not supposed to throw them?
>
> > If we're supposed to throw computer equipment, why was Microsoft
> > Windows invented?
>
> "Created", please. There was no inventing involved.
>
> Side note: Did you know that the "blue screen of death" is
> blue, because researchers found that blue has a calming effect?

That's true. It causes me to shoot the monitor screen with just my .
22 instead of my .44 Magnum.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:00 pm
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hizark21.RemoveThis@yahoo.com wrote:

> I am considering Sorbothane rubber washers or using Sorothane sheeting
> on the outside as well. The question is if there will be enough
> clearance for the washers.

The washers should fit fine, but to prevent the screws from vibrating
loose, use either those screws with smooth shanks that are a lot
larger in diameter than the threaded portion, or apply weak Loctite to
the threads of regular screws

From Wikipedia:

"The feel and damping qualities of Sorbothane have been likened to
those of meat."

Has anybody tried replacing worn engine mounts with sirloin?
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:50 am
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Previously larry moe 'n curly <larrymoencurly RemoveThis @my-deja.com> wrote:


> Folkert Rienstra wrote:

>> larry moe 'n curly wrote in

>> > I don't think any enclosures have shock mounts,
>>
>> Maybe because you are not supposed to throw them?

> If we're supposed to throw computer equipment, why was Microsoft
> Windows invented?

"Created", please. There was no inventing involved.

Side note: Did you know that the "blue screen of death" is
blue, because researchers found that blue has a calming effect?

Arno
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:40 am
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larry moe 'n curly wrote in
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> hizark21.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > I am considering Sorbothane rubber washers or using Sorothane sheeting
> > on the outside as well. The question is if there will be enough clearance
> > for the washers.

> The washers should fit fine,

Pity washers won't help.
For this you need either (sorbothane) grommets or studs.
In order to reduce shock the drive must be able to move in all planes.
Grommets need much bigger holes, studs require some extra height.

> but to prevent the screws from vibrating loose, use either those screws
> with smooth shanks that are a lot larger in diameter than the threaded
> portion, or apply weak Loctite to the threads of regular screws
>
> From Wikipedia:
>
> "The feel and damping qualities of Sorbothane have been likened to
> those of meat."
>
> Has anybody tried replacing worn engine mounts with sirloin?
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:41 am
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larry moe 'n curly wrote in
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> Folkert Rienstra wrote:
>
> > larry moe 'n curly wrote in
>
> > > I don't think any enclosures have shock mounts,
> >
> > Maybe because you are not supposed to throw them?

> If we're supposed to throw computer equipment, why was Microsoft
> Windows invented?

Presumably you meant "If we're *not* supposed to throw
computer equipment, why was Microsoft Windows invented" Smile
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:44 am
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larry moe 'n curly <larrymoencurly RemoveThis @my-deja.com> wrote:
> hizark21 RemoveThis @yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> I am considering Sorbothane rubber washers or using Sorothane
>> sheeting on the outside as well. The question is if there will be
>> enough clearance for the washers.
>
> The washers should fit fine, but to prevent the screws from vibrating
> loose, use either those screws with smooth shanks that are a lot
> larger in diameter than the threaded portion, or apply weak Loctite to
> the threads of regular screws
>
> From Wikipedia:
>
> "The feel and damping qualities of Sorbothane have been likened to
> those of meat."
>
> Has anybody tried replacing worn engine mounts with sirloin?

Yes, but they didnt work too well after the dog had at them.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:15 pm
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hizark21.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com wrote:
> I am considering Sorbothane rubber washers or using Sorothane sheeting
> on the outside as well. The question is if there will be enough
> clearance for the washers.

Why are you so concerned about heat? USB external HDD's are meant for
data backup and not to be left on all the time so heat is really a
non-issue. If you want external HDD's that are left on all the time then
you should get one of those media servers for consumers they have out
now. I have 4 external HDD's, three are in cheap aluminum NGear USB
cases that I put together myself and the fourth is a store bought
Comstar 1TB model that does have a rear ventilation fan. None have had
issues with heat but the Comstar is the only one I leave on for extended
periods because it is where I store my MP3 collection. Here's the one I
am talking about that may suite your purpose.

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_i...665000F

In the specs it says "remarkably quiet". It's fairly quiet at first but
the fan must be thermally controlled because one it has been on for a
while the fan gets noisier. They make a 2TB model too.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:46 pm
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Previously Backspace <me DeleteThis @here.invalid> wrote:
> hizark21 DeleteThis @yahoo.com wrote:
>> I am considering Sorbothane rubber washers or using Sorothane sheeting
>> on the outside as well. The question is if there will be enough
>> clearance for the washers.

> Why are you so concerned about heat? USB external HDD's are meant for
> data backup and not to be left on all the time so heat is really a
> non-issue.

Dead wrong (pun intended).

a) Why do you assume they are only for backup? There is no evidence to
back that assumption up.
b) They are often let on all the time and even a backup may take
long enough to heat the disk up to extreme temperatures.

> If you want external HDD's that are left on all the time then
> you should get one of those media servers for consumers they have out
> now.

Nonsense. External HDDs are far easier to use and you need to
administrate only one computer. External HDDs are also far
cheaper.

> I have 4 external HDD's, three are in cheap aluminum NGear USB
> cases that I put together myself and the fourth is a store bought
> Comstar 1TB model that does have a rear ventilation fan. None have had
> issues with heat but the Comstar is the only one I leave on for extended
> periods because it is where I store my MP3 collection.

Aha. So you assume everybody uses these things youst like you do.
I would suggest that your reality perception is badly skewed.

Arno
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:50 pm
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Arno Wagner wrote in news:60b9sfF1q2u0dU1@mid.individual.net
> Previously Backspace <me.DeleteThis@here.invalid> wrote:
> > hizark21.DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > I am considering Sorbothane rubber washers or using Sorothane sheeting
> > > on the outside as well. The question is if there will be enough
> > > clearance for the washers.
>
> > Why are you so concerned about heat? USB external HDD's are meant for
> > data backup and not to be left on all the time so heat is really a
> > non-issue.
>
> Dead wrong (pun intended).
>
> a) Why do you assume they are only for backup? There is no evidence to
> back that assumption up.
> b) They are often let on all the time and even a backup may take
> long enough to heat the disk up to extreme temperatures.
>
> > If you want external HDD's that are left on all the time then
> > you should get one of those media servers for consumers they have out
> > now.
>
> Nonsense. External HDDs are far easier to use and you need to
> administrate only one computer. External HDDs are also far
> cheaper.
>
> > I have 4 external HDD's, three are in cheap aluminum NGear USB
> > cases that I put together myself and the fourth is a store bought
> > Comstar 1TB model that does have a rear ventilation fan. None have had
> > issues with heat but the Comstar is the only one I leave on for extended
> > periods because it is where I store my MP3 collection.
>
> Aha. So you assume everybody uses these things youst like you do.
> I would suggest that your reality perception is badly skewed.

Wotanidjut.

>
> Arno
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