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Cichlidiot

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 11:51 am
Post subject: SN41G2 IGP and memory issues?
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I've been researching SN41G2 for several days now and have seen many
references to issues with certain brands (and no-name "brands") of memory
when using the onboard graphics. I am currently building a system which
will be primarily a Linux workstation with standard web browsing,
telneting, MySQL server, etc. I'll also be dual-booting to Windows for
primarily playing Civilization III and also the occasional Word document
preparation. There will also be the occasional run of simulations for my
research, but those are entirely non-graphical in nature (although I'll
have to watch my temps carefully since they do chew up the CPU).

Since my primary uses aren't graphically intense, I was planning to use
the onboard graphics. So now I am concerned about getting a brand of
memory that will work with the onboard graphics. I also want good memory
and a fast CPU for those occasional simulation runs (they can take >12
hours on my fastest machine, a P3 1GHz laptop) and also for the AI turns
in Civ (I get impatient waiting for them to compute moves in late game
sometimes).

So, here are my current plans (the whole kit-n-kaboodle in case some other
part may cause issues):

Memory: Corsair XMS TwinX PC2700 1GB (TWINX1024-2700LLPT)
CPU: Athlon XP 3000+ "Barton" 333 FSB
HD: Western Digital Special Edition 80GB (WD800JB)
DVD/CDRW: LG Electronics 48X24X48 CD-RW, 16X DVD-ROM (GCC-4480B)
Floppy: Alps 3.5" floppy (DF354H068F)

Any forsee any potential issues with these parts using the onboard
graphics?

Thanks

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ian mayo

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 1:12 pm
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 > Memory: Corsair XMS TwinX PC2700 1GB (TWINX1024-2700LLPT)
 > CPU: Athlon XP 3000+ "Barton" 333 FSB
 > HD: Western Digital Special Edition 80GB (WD800JB)
 > DVD/CDRW: LG Electronics 48X24X48 CD-RW, 16X DVD-ROM (GCC-4480B)
 > Floppy: Alps 3.5" floppy (DF354H068F)
 >
 > Any forsee any potential issues with these parts using the onboard
 > graphics?
 >
 > Thanks

Hey, that all sounds fine - I ended up buying that memory myself after the
cheaper brand caused crashed.

On a separate matter- are you sure you don't want a Zip instead of the
floppy? You can get sooo little on a floppy these days.

Lastly, read up on Shuttle noise suppression - lots of people (including
myself) have been surprised at how noisy they are - particularly if you are
going to site it up on your desk (with an unobscured noise path to your
ears....)

Ian.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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Janner

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 1:21 pm
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:12:13 +0100, "ian mayo"
<scrap.ianmayo.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

 >On a separate matter- are you sure you don't want a Zip instead of the
 >floppy? You can get sooo little on a floppy these days.

What's the point of a zip drive when you have a CDR/W?

You can get sooo little on a zip disk these days;-)<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Arto V

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 4:38 pm
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USB pendrives are much better than floppy or zip. And even better than
cd-rw, u dont have to buy plank disks.
But if u need multiple small disks to hand over then the zip or floppy.

  > >On a separate matter- are you sure you don't want a Zip instead of the
  > >floppy? You can get sooo little on a floppy these days.
 >
 > What's the point of a zip drive when you have a CDR/W?
 >
 > You can get sooo little on a zip disk these days;-)<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Cichlidiot

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 4:52 pm
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ian mayo <scrap.ianmayo.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
  >> Memory: Corsair XMS TwinX PC2700 1GB (TWINX1024-2700LLPT)
  >> CPU: Athlon XP 3000+ "Barton" 333 FSB
  >> HD: Western Digital Special Edition 80GB (WD800JB)
  >> DVD/CDRW: LG Electronics 48X24X48 CD-RW, 16X DVD-ROM (GCC-4480B)
  >> Floppy: Alps 3.5" floppy (DF354H068F)
  >>
  >> Any forsee any potential issues with these parts using the onboard
  >> graphics?
  >>
  >> Thanks

 > Hey, that all sounds fine - I ended up buying that memory myself after the
 > cheaper brand caused crashed.

Are you using the onboard graphics with that memory or an AGP video card?
It's primarily the compatability with the IGP that I'm concerned with.

 > On a separate matter- are you sure you don't want a Zip instead of the
 > floppy? You can get sooo little on a floppy these days.

Floppy primarily because all my other machines have floppies (easy
portability) and my Linux distro of choice has an easy utility for making
root/boot floppies if the CD fails to boot (as it using Isolinux to create
its bootable CDs and that sometimes has issues with certain machines).
Although my Shuttle SV24 boots the current install CD fine, so I should
probably be okay. But for as cheap as floppy drives are these days (that
one is $11 with shipping at newegg), might as well throw one in.

 > Lastly, read up on Shuttle noise suppression - lots of people (including
 > myself) have been surprised at how noisy they are - particularly if you are
 > going to site it up on your desk (with an unobscured noise path to your
 > ears....)

As previously mentioned, I have a Shuttle SV24 so I am quite familiar with
the noise. I've read the more recent Shuttles are quieter than the SV24.
If so, it will probably be quieter than the HEPA filters I have to run due
to allergies as the SV24 is only a bit noisier than those. Hell, the SV24
is as quiet as a mouse compared to my AlphaStation.... that thing you can
hear its fans whining from across the apartment. It does not spend many
nights running because its loud enough to disrupt my sleep, heh.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 5:53 pm
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"Janner" <newz.DeleteThis@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:12:13 +0100, "ian mayo"
 > <scrap.ianmayo.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
 >
 > What's the point of a zip drive when you have a CDR/W?
 >
 > You can get sooo little on a zip disk these days;-)

Bit of a squeeze in the 3.5" bay though - and they just don't seem as
reliable as zips..<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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shiftmstr

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 5:53 pm
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"ian mayo" <scrap.ianmayo RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > "Janner" <newz RemoveThis @postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
 > news:8hk2gv8n13leiuk9d0mstqk2as1udeut3s@4ax.com...
  > > On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:12:13 +0100, "ian mayo"
  > > <scrap.ianmayo RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
  > >
  > > What's the point of a zip drive when you have a CDR/W?
  > >
  > > You can get sooo little on a zip disk these days;-)
 >
 > Bit of a squeeze in the 3.5" bay though - and they just don't seem as
 > reliable as zips..
 >
 >

you should try LS-240 drives. I got my old LS-120 super floppy drive (holds
120mb) and it writes 32x faster than a floppy, an more reliably than a zip.
Zip disks go bad so easy, I'm really sick of them. Anyway, the LS series
drives from Imation are external usb, and are reversly compatible with
everything from 720k floppies on up to thier 240mbs. Smile


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ian mayo

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 7:02 pm
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"Cichlidiot" <fishlover.TakeThisOut@nospam.net> wrote in message
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 > ian mayo <scrap.ianmayo.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
   > >>
   > >> Thanks
 >
  > > Hey, that all sounds fine - I ended up buying that memory myself after
the
  > > cheaper brand caused crashed.
 >
 > Are you using the onboard graphics with that memory or an AGP video card?
 > It's primarily the compatability with the IGP that I'm concerned with.
 >

Yes, I am using onboard graphics - and it's just fine. When I bought it, it
did crash when entering 3d mode - the first indicator that cheap memory was
duff. I replaced with the Corsair twin memory and everything was fine.

Up until this week I was having a problem with vertical lines being drawn
down the primary display when showing a moving video, but updating the
NVidia drivers overcame this - and everything's fine now.

Good luck,
Ian<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 7:29 pm
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:53:25 +0100, "ian mayo"
<scrap.ianmayo.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

 >
 >"Janner" <newz.TakeThisOut@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
 >news:8hk2gv8n13leiuk9d0mstqk2as1udeut3s@4ax.com...
  >> On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:12:13 +0100, "ian mayo"
  >> <scrap.ianmayo.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
  >>
  >> What's the point of a zip drive when you have a CDR/W?
  >>
  >> You can get sooo little on a zip disk these days;-)
 >
 >Bit of a squeeze in the 3.5" bay though - and they just don't seem as
 >reliable as zips..
 >

The OP said his system had a CDR/W, so the 3.5 bay could be left free.
This would probably help a 'little' with keeping the case cool.
Another option, and the one I took, was a 6-1 card reader, which has
proved far more useful than a floppy ever could, and has removed two
card readers from my desktop ...<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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