I can't believe Sony has discontinued their crt line, incl..

AbbieNormal <none.TakeThisOut@none.com> wrote:

 >Sure, the F5** line had their problems, but the F520 was (and still
 >is) the best damn monitor out there.

I agree. It really sucks that they are discontinuing them.

 >I guess I'm going to have to rethink my dream triple F520 system that
 >I was going to build someday (I have 1 right now).

I have an F500R (same thing, essentially). I hope it lasts a long
time, because there's nothing else out there as good.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"SR2" <alphasoft_nospam_ RemoveThis @libero.it> wrote:

  >> Sure, the F5** line had their problems, but the F520 was (and still
  >> is) the best damn monitor out there.
  >>
  >> I guess I'm going to have to rethink my dream triple F520 system that
  >> I was going to build someday (I have 1 right now).
 >
 >Welcome in the flat panel era...

To the "suck" era, you mean...<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"AbbieNormal" <none RemoveThis @none.com> wrote in message
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 > Sure, the F5** line had their problems, but the F520 was (and still
 > is) the best damn monitor out there.
 >
 > I guess I'm going to have to rethink my dream triple F520 system that
 > I was going to build someday (I have 1 right now).
 >
 >

Link for this news?

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On Mon, 3 May 2004 23:09:49 +0100, "Derek Baker"
<me.TakeThisOut@XYZderekbaker.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:

  >> Sure, the F5** line had their problems, but the F520 was (and still
  >> is) the best damn monitor out there.
  >>
  >> I guess I'm going to have to rethink my dream triple F520 system that
  >> I was going to build someday (I have 1 right now).
  >>
  >>
 >
 >Link for this news?

Nope. I think they did it a few months ago already, but I just noticed
it now.

Go to sony.com and you'll see that the only crt they're still making
is the Artisan. Do a Froogle search for F520 and you'll see that no
one is selling it (out of stock/discontinued)

Eizo's crt line is also dead if you check out their website.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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On Mon, 03 May 2004 10:36:07 -0500, chrisv <chrisv.DeleteThis@nospam.invalid> wrote:

 >AbbieNormal <none.DeleteThis@none.com> wrote:
 >
  >>Sure, the F5** line had their problems, but the F520 was (and still
  >>is) the best damn monitor out there.
 >
 >I agree. It really sucks that they are discontinuing them.
 >
  >>I guess I'm going to have to rethink my dream triple F520 system that
  >>I was going to build someday (I have 1 right now).
 >
 >I have an F500R (same thing, essentially). I hope it lasts a long
 >time, because there's nothing else out there as good.

To add to the gripe, I recently compared flat panels to ctrs and the crts still
offer a considerably better image. Panels may be better for text but certainly
not for graphics. Because of this I do hope, and believe, that some company
somewhere will continue to offer superior crts until panels finally catch up.

Doug Bolton<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Doug Bolton" <dbolton.DeleteThis@telus.net> wrote in message
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 > On Mon, 03 May 2004 10:36:07 -0500, chrisv <chrisv.DeleteThis@nospam.invalid> wrote:
 >
  > >AbbieNormal <none.DeleteThis@none.com> wrote:
  > >
   > >>Sure, the F5** line had their problems, but the F520 was (and still
   > >>is) the best damn monitor out there.
  > >
  > >I agree. It really sucks that they are discontinuing them.
  > >
   > >>I guess I'm going to have to rethink my dream triple F520 system that
   > >>I was going to build someday (I have 1 right now).
  > >
  > >I have an F500R (same thing, essentially). I hope it lasts a long
  > >time, because there's nothing else out there as good.
 >
 > To add to the gripe, I recently compared flat panels to ctrs and the crts
still
 > offer a considerably better image. Panels may be better for text but
certainly
 > not for graphics. Because of this I do hope, and believe, that some
company
 > somewhere will continue to offer superior crts until panels finally catch
up.
 >

Diamondtrons are very popular these days. Many of the OEMs that used to use
Trinitron tubes now use them (Dell, Gateway, HP, IBM). Your best bet would
be the 22" HP P1230 which can be had for as little as USD 510 shipped. It
has the exact same tube as that in my NEC FP2141SB (which in turn is the
same as in the Diamond Pro 2070).<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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 > To the "suck" era, you mean...

I have a "serious" LCD and I don't regret any CRT...

Already this year will be commercialized LCD with
LED backlights that exceed the Adobe RGB color space.
Next will be LCD with true 30bit color and OLEDs
with more applications you can dream.
But if you want to stay with Cathode Ray Tubes forever...

Greetings<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"SR2" <alphasoft_nospam_.TakeThisOut@libero.it> wrote:

  >> To the "suck" era, you mean...
 >
 >I have a "serious" LCD and I don't regret any CRT...
 >
 >Already this year will be commercialized LCD with
 >LED backlights that exceed the Adobe RGB color space.
 >Next will be LCD with true 30bit color and OLEDs
 >with more applications you can dream.

Lots of technology and hype. Too bad they don't work as well, for me.

 >But if you want to stay with Cathode Ray Tubes forever...

As long as I can, barring some real breakthroughs in the flat-panel
area.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Doug Bolton wrote:
 > To add to the gripe, I recently compared flat panels to ctrs and the crts still
 > offer a considerably better image. Panels may be better for text but certainly
 > not for graphics. Because of this I do hope, and believe, that some company
 > somewhere will continue to offer superior crts until panels finally catch up.


LCDs (good ones) have caught up in every area, except contrast/colour
fidelity. not too long to go i hope.. <!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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gimp <gimpboy.TakeThisOut@smegville.com> wrote:

 >Doug Bolton wrote:
  >> To add to the gripe, I recently compared flat panels to ctrs and the crts still
  >> offer a considerably better image. Panels may be better for text but certainly
  >> not for graphics. Because of this I do hope, and believe, that some company
  >> somewhere will continue to offer superior crts until panels finally catch up.
 >
 >LCDs (good ones) have caught up in every area, except contrast/colour
 >fidelity. not too long to go i hope..

Wrong.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"gimp" <gimpboy DeleteThis @smegville.com> wrote in message
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 > Doug Bolton wrote:
  > > To add to the gripe, I recently compared flat panels to ctrs and the
crts still
  > > offer a considerably better image. Panels may be better for text but
certainly
  > > not for graphics. Because of this I do hope, and believe, that some
company
  > > somewhere will continue to offer superior crts until panels finally
catch up.
 >
 >
 > LCDs (good ones) have caught up in every area, except contrast/colour
 > fidelity. not too long to go i hope..

No. LCDs have actually exceeded CRT performance in contrast,
and, for high-resolution displays, brightness already. Color fidelity
is a very broad subject - LCDs have the edge in some areas, CRTs
in others. LCDs still lag in response time, although they are making
rapid progress here. In many respects, "better" is difficult to judge
between the two, as much of this judgment is subjective and therefore
up to the individual. At some point, we just have to realize that the
"look" of the two technologies will always be different, for some very
basic reasons.

Bob M.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Bob Myers" <nospamplease DeleteThis @address.invalid> wrote:

 >"gimp" <gimpboy DeleteThis @smegville.com> wrote:
  >>
  >> LCDs (good ones) have caught up in every area, except contrast/colour
  >> fidelity. not too long to go i hope..
 >
 >No. LCDs have actually exceeded CRT performance in contrast,
 >and, for high-resolution displays, brightness already. Color fidelity
 >is a very broad subject - LCDs have the edge in some areas, CRTs
 >in others. LCDs still lag in response time, although they are making
 >rapid progress here. In many respects, "better" is difficult to judge
 >between the two, as much of this judgment is subjective and therefore
 >up to the individual. At some point, we just have to realize that the
 >"look" of the two technologies will always be different, for some very
 >basic reasons.

What bothers me is that those who prefer CRT's are no longer going to
be offered product, with choices decreasing all the time. And why?
Because foolish consumers have bought the "flat is cooler and better"
hype hook, line, and sinker.

Why is flat panel being pushed? Why is it you can look through a Dell
flyer and see dozens of flat-panels, but not see even a hint of the
availability of CRT monitors? Can you say "higher margins for the
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"chrisv" <chrisv DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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  > >I have a "serious" LCD and I don't regret any CRT...
  > >
  > >Already this year will be commercialized LCD with
  > >LED backlights that exceed the Adobe RGB color space.
  > >Next will be LCD with true 30bit color and OLEDs
  > >with more applications you can dream.
 >
 > Lots of technology and hype. Too bad they don't work as well, for me.

Chris, have you even SEEN the technology mentioned here?
I seriously doubt it, since the wide-gamut LED backlight design
(from LumiLeds) hasn't yet been exhibited widely. I've seen
this monitor, though, and the gamut and brightness are very,
very impressive, and far exceed what could be achieved in a
CRT of comparable resolution. "30 bit" LCDs are also, in
fact, coming, although I'm not sure that will be perceived as
quite as significant in terms of its impact on the image quality.
OLEDs - well, time will tell, there. We're still quite some time
from commercial OLED monitors in any significant volumes.

Bob M.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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