 |
|
|
|
Next: 503+ USB 2.0 card not recognized, calling all wiz..
|
| Author |
Message |
External
Since: Mar 06, 2004
Posts: 9
|
(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 2:22 am
Post subject: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting
Archived from groups: alt>comp>periphs>mainboard>fic (more info?)
|
|
|
The system has been stable for 2-3 years. It just began spontaneously
rebooting. Initially it was one or two times during the boot
sequence. After the system had warmed up it seemed ok. Now it
occasionally reboots while running - it did while writing this post
the first time.
Win XP
128 Mb RAM
Enlight case with AT power supply
BIOS JP4329 - what's needed to run this board with an AT power supply
System is connected to a TrippLite surge suppressor.
The first reboot typically occurs after the line
"Verifying DMI data pool"
If it makes it past that, a second spot for reboot is after the
initial Win XP screen.
A third spot some times is when the light blue screen appears telling
me that the system crashed and it will check the drive integrity
before proceeding.
Once the system is warmed up and makes it past the boot, it usually
runs for awhile, but eventually reboots.
I have tried the follwing without success:
1) Reloaded the operating system from a known good Ghost image
2) Reseated the RAM
3) Tried a different stick of RAM
4) Reflashed the BIOS
If booted from a floppy into DOS, it doesn't reboot
Other less objective observations:
It might be rebooting a little less after I tried and removed the
spare stick of RAM, but it still reboots.
A 2 year old Sony CD-ROM drive stopped reading inserted disks about 2
weeks ago. I disconnected it from the IDE cable the power supply
without effect.
My Sony CD-RW drive might be taking a little longer to spin up and
read inserted disks - but this might just be paranoia since other
things have gone wrong.
When I booted from the floppy to reload the drive image, Ghost seemed
to come up more slowly than I remembered - but again that could be
paranoia.
Anybody had a similar problem. Any thoughts?
TIA
******* Remove NOSPAM to reply ******* |
|
| Back to top |
|
 | |
External
Since: Feb 21, 2004
Posts: 143
|
(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 2:34 pm
Post subject: Re: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
Try running memtest86 for an extended period of time to see if you get
any errors (www.memtest86.com). Also, reseat all ribbon cables, just
as a precaution, as well as checking all other cable connections.
Finally, ground yourself first then carefully touch your CPU HS and
see if it is getting too hot. Another thought is the PS is producing
spikes or glitches, tho this strikes me as a low probability.
--
Best regards,
Kyle
tired of spam, no email address
"RWL" <bobpartner_NOSPAM_.DeleteThis@evenlink.com> wrote in message
news:e431ivouvmnn44jvqhd40q9ms1bhf04gil@4ax.com...
|
|
| The system has been stable for 2-3 years. It just began
spontaneously
| rebooting. Initially it was one or two times during the boot
| sequence. After the system had warmed up it seemed ok. Now it
| occasionally reboots while running - it did while writing this post
| the first time.
|
| Win XP
| 128 Mb RAM
| Enlight case with AT power supply
| BIOS JP4329 - what's needed to run this board with an AT power
supply
| System is connected to a TrippLite surge suppressor.
|
| The first reboot typically occurs after the line
| "Verifying DMI data pool"
|
| If it makes it past that, a second spot for reboot is after the
| initial Win XP screen.
|
| A third spot some times is when the light blue screen appears
telling
| me that the system crashed and it will check the drive integrity
| before proceeding.
|
| Once the system is warmed up and makes it past the boot, it usually
| runs for awhile, but eventually reboots.
|
| I have tried the follwing without success:
|
| 1) Reloaded the operating system from a known good Ghost image
|
| 2) Reseated the RAM
|
| 3) Tried a different stick of RAM
|
| 4) Reflashed the BIOS
|
| If booted from a floppy into DOS, it doesn't reboot
|
| Other less objective observations:
| It might be rebooting a little less after I tried and removed the
| spare stick of RAM, but it still reboots.
|
| A 2 year old Sony CD-ROM drive stopped reading inserted disks about
2
| weeks ago. I disconnected it from the IDE cable the power supply
| without effect.
|
| My Sony CD-RW drive might be taking a little longer to spin up and
| read inserted disks - but this might just be paranoia since other
| things have gone wrong.
|
| When I booted from the floppy to reload the drive image, Ghost
seemed
| to come up more slowly than I remembered - but again that could be
| paranoia.
|
| Anybody had a similar problem. Any thoughts?
|
| TIA
|
|
|
|
| ******* Remove NOSPAM to reply *******
| |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Mar 06, 2004
Posts: 9
|
(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 2:15 am
Post subject: Re: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:34:29 -0500, "Kyle Brant" <me.TakeThisOut@privacy.net>
wrote:
>Try running memtest86 for an extended period of time to see if you get
>any errors (www.memtest86.com). Also, reseat all ribbon cables, just
>as a precaution, as well as checking all other cable connections.
>Finally, ground yourself first then carefully touch your CPU HS and
>see if it is getting too hot. Another thought is the PS is producing
>spikes or glitches, tho this strikes me as a low probability.
I haven't tried any of the above yet, but I've wondered about the
power supply because my 2 year old Sony CD-ROM died and I didn't use
it very hard. The CD-RW is also failing to read disks promplty and
that's how the other one died. Maybe I should try swapping out the PS
first; I think I have a spare downstairs in the parts box.
Thanks for the additional suggestions.
RWL
******* Remove NOSPAM to reply *******<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Jul 26, 2003
Posts: 3
|
(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 1:41 am
Post subject: Re: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
RWL wrote:
>
> The system has been stable for 2-3 years. It just began spontaneously
> rebooting. Initially it was one or two times during the boot
> sequence. After the system had warmed up it seemed ok. Now it
> occasionally reboots while running - it did while writing this post
> the first time.
>
> Win XP
> 128 Mb RAM
> Enlight case with AT power supply
> BIOS JP4329 - what's needed to run this board with an AT power supply
> System is connected to a TrippLite surge suppressor.
>
> The first reboot typically occurs after the line
> "Verifying DMI data pool"
>
> If it makes it past that, a second spot for reboot is after the
> initial Win XP screen.
>
> A third spot some times is when the light blue screen appears telling
> me that the system crashed and it will check the drive integrity
> before proceeding.
>
> Once the system is warmed up and makes it past the boot, it usually
> runs for awhile, but eventually reboots.
>
> I have tried the follwing without success:
>
> 1) Reloaded the operating system from a known good Ghost image
>
> 2) Reseated the RAM
>
> 3) Tried a different stick of RAM
>
> 4) Reflashed the BIOS
>
> If booted from a floppy into DOS, it doesn't reboot
>
> Other less objective observations:
> It might be rebooting a little less after I tried and removed the
> spare stick of RAM, but it still reboots.
>
> A 2 year old Sony CD-ROM drive stopped reading inserted disks about 2
> weeks ago. I disconnected it from the IDE cable the power supply
> without effect.
>
> My Sony CD-RW drive might be taking a little longer to spin up and
> read inserted disks - but this might just be paranoia since other
> things have gone wrong.
>
> When I booted from the floppy to reload the drive image, Ghost seemed
> to come up more slowly than I remembered - but again that could be
> paranoia.
>
> Anybody had a similar problem. Any thoughts?
>
How long has WinXP been stable on your setup?
Do you happen to be using any PC133 sdrams?
On my setup, PC133 sdram caused really crazy problems for Win2k --
such as hangs during installation and spontaneous reboots -- and those
problems went away after I replaced it with PC100; I would expect much
the same thing with WinXP.
BillH<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Dec 18, 2003
Posts: 80
|
(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 3:47 am
Post subject: Re: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
"reader" <no-spam DeleteThis @no-spam.net> wrote in message news:CsDUa.5616$dk4.256291@typhoon.sonic.net...
>
> How long has WinXP been stable on your setup?
>
> Do you happen to be using any PC133 sdrams?
>
> On my setup, PC133 sdram caused really crazy problems for Win2k --
> such as hangs during installation and spontaneous reboots -- and those
> problems went away after I replaced it with PC100; I would expect much
> the same thing with WinXP.
>
Was that the 4 chip PC133 as the 8 chip PC133 work fine, as guided
by this NG and note our local PC component store now charges a little
bit extra for these.
Like the OP no problems for several years then nothing would install,
and a erratic failure at that. Though no trouble since swapping the 4 chip
for the 8 chip PC133.
Den
--
Matt Groening must have put
a few smiles on peoples faces.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Apr 04, 2004
Posts: 8
|
(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 9:14 am
Post subject: Re: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
OK my favorite peeve
1. DITCH the AT power ! Get an 350watt min ATX. download and install the
je4333 or ACPI BIOS .2 . Buy your memory form
WWW.crutial.com. Get a Kyro II or better AGP 64 MEG display adapter ! AND ROCK
..And if you don't have one .Get an K-6-3 450+ and OC using K-6-SPEED
NoJOB@aol. >> Stay informed about: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Mar 06, 2004
Posts: 9
|
(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:42 pm
Post subject: Re: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:34:29 -0500, "Kyle Brant" <me.RemoveThis@privacy.net>
wrote:
>Try running memtest86 for an extended period of time to see if you get
>any errors (www.memtest86.com).
22 Passes - no errors
>Also, reseat all ribbon cables, just
>as a precaution, as well as checking all other cable connections.
Standard good advice, but that didn't fix it either.
>see if it is getting too hot. Another thought is the PS is producing
>spikes or glitches, tho this strikes me as a low probability.
Tried a spare AT power supply. That didn't fix it either.
FIC tech support sent me email saying the board doesn't support Win XP
even though I've run XP since shortly after it was released. Go
figure. I installed Win 98 from an old image file - no more
spontaneous reboot problems. I'd love to know what happened and
whether it could be corrected. Since I can't get back to Win XP with
the current setup, it looks like it's time to shop for a new system.
RWL
******* Remove NOSPAM to reply *******<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Jul 28, 2003
Posts: 1
|
(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 3:33 am
Post subject: Re: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:41:38 GMT, reader <no-spam RemoveThis @no-spam.net> wrote:
>RWL wrote:
>>
>> The system has been stable for 2-3 years. It just began spontaneously
>> rebooting.
>>
>> Win XP
>> 128 Mb RAM
>> Enlight case with AT power supply
>> BIOS JP4329 - what's needed to run this board with an AT power supply
>> System is connected to a TrippLite surge suppressor.
>>
>
> How long has WinXP been stable on your setup?
Since XP was released - about a year?
>
> Do you happen to be using any PC133 sdrams?
No. It's PC100. A 64 Mb stick of Compaq 66 Mhz RAM also didn't fix
the problem.
>
> On my setup, PC133 sdram caused really crazy problems for Win2k --
>such as hangs during installation and spontaneous reboots -- and those
>problems went away after I replaced it with PC100; I would expect much
>the same thing with WinXP.
>
I ran Memtest86 v3.0 today for about 5-6 hours - about 22 repetitions
and found no errors.
I also tried replacing the power supply - didn't fix the problem.
I got a reply from FIC tech support, which unfortunately got lost
during one of the reboots, so I can't quote the entire message. One
of the things it said was that the board doesn't support Win XP. Duh
- wonder why the system worked for almost a year with XP.
RWL
******* Remove NOSPAM to reply *******<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Jul 26, 2003
Posts: 3
|
(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 4:03 am
Post subject: Re: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
Den wrote:
> "reader" <no-spam.DeleteThis@no-spam.net> wrote in message news:CsDUa.5616$dk4.256291@typhoon.sonic.net...
>
>> How long has WinXP been stable on your setup?
>>
>> Do you happen to be using any PC133 sdrams?
>>
>> On my setup, PC133 sdram caused really crazy problems for Win2k --
>>such as hangs during installation and spontaneous reboots -- and those
>>problems went away after I replaced it with PC100; I would expect much
>>the same thing with WinXP.
>>
>
> Was that the 4 chip PC133 as the 8 chip PC133 work fine, as guided
> by this NG and note our local PC component store now charges a little
> bit extra for these.
It was a 9-chip (ecc) stick.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Jul 26, 2003
Posts: 3
|
(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 5:19 am
Post subject: Re: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
RWL wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:41:38 GMT, reader <no-spam.RemoveThis@no-spam.net> wrote:
>
>
>>RWL wrote:
>>
>>>The system has been stable for 2-3 years. It just began spontaneously
>>>rebooting.
>>>
>>>Win XP
>>>128 Mb RAM
>>>Enlight case with AT power supply
>>>BIOS JP4329 - what's needed to run this board with an AT power supply
>>>System is connected to a TrippLite surge suppressor.
>>>
>
>
>
>> How long has WinXP been stable on your setup?
>
>
> Since XP was released - about a year?
>
>> Do you happen to be using any PC133 sdrams?
>
>
> No. It's PC100. A 64 Mb stick of Compaq 66 Mhz RAM also didn't fix
> the problem.
>
>> On my setup, PC133 sdram caused really crazy problems for Win2k --
>>such as hangs during installation and spontaneous reboots -- and those
>>problems went away after I replaced it with PC100; I would expect much
>>the same thing with WinXP.
>>
>
>
> I ran Memtest86 v3.0 today for about 5-6 hours - about 22 repetitions
> and found no errors.
>
> I also tried replacing the power supply - didn't fix the problem.
>
> I got a reply from FIC tech support, which unfortunately got lost
> during one of the reboots, so I can't quote the entire message. One
> of the things it said was that the board doesn't support Win XP. Duh
> - wonder why the system worked for almost a year with XP.
>
> RWL
>
> ******* Remove NOSPAM to reply *******
>
I am sorry, I misremembered. The pc133 problem I had was related to
hangs during Win2k install.
I don't know if the VA-503+ supports WinXP or not, but Win2k/SP4 runs
perfectly on my VA-503+ 1.2a AFAICT.
What it doesn't support is an AT p/s.
You might want to read
<jf5H9.52459$Ik.1449897@typhoon.sonic.net>
and
<hzXH9.52948$Ik.1485767@typhoon.sonic.net>
Bill<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Jul 10, 2003
Posts: 19
|
(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 6:00 am
Post subject: Re: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
The only issue that I can recall that's been discovered between XP and the
503+ is an issue with the BIOS and ACPI. XP doesn't like something about
the way the BIOS manages system resources, because it thinks it should be
the only entity doing that. We had an entire thread on this problem about 7
months ago; you can go to Google and search this newsgroup for 503+ XP ACPI.
There was a MS KB article referenced:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283649" target="_blank">http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;283649</a>
This may not help you at all, but it stands to reason that there could be
other issues crop up after extended use of XP.
Robert
"RWL" <bobpartner_NOSPAM_ RemoveThis @evenlink.com> wrote in message
news:14s8ivc24hgci273hskcvs9nltaj7ie89q@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 11:34:29 -0500, "Kyle Brant" <me RemoveThis @privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
> >Try running memtest86 for an extended period of time to see if you get
> >any errors (www.memtest86.com).
>
> 22 Passes - no errors
>
>
> >Also, reseat all ribbon cables, just
> >as a precaution, as well as checking all other cable connections.
>
> Standard good advice, but that didn't fix it either.
>
> >see if it is getting too hot. Another thought is the PS is producing
> >spikes or glitches, tho this strikes me as a low probability.
>
> Tried a spare AT power supply. That didn't fix it either.
>
> FIC tech support sent me email saying the board doesn't support Win XP
> even though I've run XP since shortly after it was released. Go
> figure. I installed Win 98 from an old image file - no more
> spontaneous reboot problems. I'd love to know what happened and
> whether it could be corrected. Since I can't get back to Win XP with
> the current setup, it looks like it's time to shop for a new system.
>
> RWL
>
> ******* Remove NOSPAM to reply *******
><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Aug 02, 2003
Posts: 22
|
(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 7:17 pm
Post subject: Re: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
External
Since: Oct 02, 2003
Posts: 6
|
(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 9:46 pm
Post subject: Re: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
|
|
|
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 00:33:16 GMT, bobpartner_NOSPAM_ RemoveThis @evenlink.com
(RWL) wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 22:41:38 GMT, reader <no-spam RemoveThis @no-spam.net> wrote:
>
>Since XP was released - about a year?
>>
>> Do you happen to be using any PC133 sdrams?
>
>No. It's PC100. A 64 Mb stick of Compaq 66 Mhz RAM also didn't fix
>the problem.
>>
>> On my setup, PC133 sdram caused really crazy problems for Win2k --
>>such as hangs during installation and spontaneous reboots -- and those
>>problems went away after I replaced it with PC100; I would expect much
>>the same thing with WinXP.
>>
>
>I ran Memtest86 v3.0 today for about 5-6 hours - about 22 repetitions
>and found no errors.
>
>I also tried replacing the power supply - didn't fix the problem.
>
>I got a reply from FIC tech support, which unfortunately got lost
>during one of the reboots, so I can't quote the entire message. One
>of the things it said was that the board doesn't support Win XP. Duh
>- wonder why the system worked for almost a year with XP.
>
>RWL
>
>******* Remove NOSPAM to reply *******
It's not the board doesn't support XP, it would more like XP doesn't
support the board. XP will run fine on it.
Maybe tech support was referring to an AMD Athlon XP cpu.
It certainly doesn't support it.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: VA-503+ Spontaneous Rebooting |
|
| Back to top |
|
| |
| Related Topics: | VA-503+ won't recognize D-Link network card - What's been your luck in getting the D-Link DWL-G510 wireless PCI netwoerk card to work in an FIC VA-503+ and Windows? I couldn't get Windows to recognize the card, no matter how I installed or uninstalled the driver software, what PCI slot I used (othe...
VIA C3 processor on FIC KA31 motherboard ??? - Has anyone tried the VIA C3 processor (on a slocket) on a KA31 motherboard? I think I know where I can get my hands on an 800MHz processor for a reasonable price and wonder if it's worth trying. Maybe the BIOS doesn't support the processor - I don't..
hmmm... - I have a va503+ with a sb live card and a g-force 4 card. it's clocking 500 MHz with 384 Mb of ram running windows 2000. when I play a song with Windows media player, it plays great. but when I have the graphics turned on, such as the swirly ambient..
AGP Lock on AU13? - Hi It's been a while since I put a system together, and I ran into some problems inserting the AGP video card into my AU13. First, there wasn't enough clearance to insert the card; I had to loosen all of the MB screws and then was able to insert the..
PCI problem on a VA503+ - Hi there, I've got a VA503+ , flashed with the modified APM bios (I can't remember the version - you all know what one it is), with a K6-2 500 (5x100), 256meg PC-100 and WinXP Pro SP1 installed with the F6(?) 'Standard PC' option. I have the lastest VIA... |
|
You can post new topics in this forum
You can reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
FAQ
Profile
Private Messages
Log in
