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oparr1

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 10:13 am
Post subject: Vertical lines on NEC monitor
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Hi,

I have a 22" NEC FE2111SB monitor that seems to have recently
"sprouted" 7 faint vertical lines on the screen. They are most visible
on a white background and look similar to the usual 2 aperture grill
horizontal lines. Any clues as to what these vertical lines are?

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Arno Wagner

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 4:39 am
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc oparr <oparr.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
 > Hi,

 > I have a 22" NEC FE2111SB monitor that seems to have recently
 > "sprouted" 7 faint vertical lines on the screen. They are most visible
 > on a white background and look similar to the usual 2 aperture grill
 > horizontal lines. Any clues as to what these vertical lines are?

Sounds like a problem with the VGA card. Try on a different
computer/VGA to verify. Might be a problem with some
row/column amplifiers in the video-RAM.

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Franc Zabkar

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:45 pm
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On 13 Nov 2004 10:13:12 -0800, oparr.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (oparr) put finger to
keyboard and composed:

 >I have a 22" NEC FE2111SB monitor that seems to have recently
 >"sprouted" 7 faint vertical lines on the screen. They are most visible
 >on a white background and look similar to the usual 2 aperture grill
 >horizontal lines. Any clues as to what these vertical lines are?

There was a very similar question at sci.electronics.repair recently:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=Howfd.6958%24Ae.6584%40newsread1.dllstx09.us.to.verio.net&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dinsubject:Faint%2Binsubject:vertical%2Binsubject:streaks%2Binsubject:on%2Binsubject:new%2Binsubject:monitor%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26as_qdr%3Dm3%26selm%3DHowfd.6958%2524Ae.6584%2540newsread1.dllstx09.us.to.verio.net%26rnum%3D1" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=Howfd.6958%24Ae.6584...newsrea</a>

The OP had a SiS 6326 graphics card and a Samsung Syncmaster 793s 17"
monitor.


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:45 pm
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Lines are there when connected to four different computers so it's not any
particular video card. It's the monitor. Also, a Google search indicated a
similar condition with another NEC monitor;

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nec+%22vertical+lines%22&hl=en&lr=&scoring=d&selm=53e2ec95.0407181009.50219df5%40posting.google.com&rnum=7" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nec+%22vertical+lines%22&hl=en&lr=&s...ing=d&s</a>

Wondering whether it was a NEC thing or the monitor is just defective.
Leaning towards the latter.

"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar.RemoveThis@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:fvidp0hg4qkqmahstu4q3529bccnsn05hb@4ax.com...
 > On 13 Nov 2004 10:13:12 -0800, oparr.RemoveThis@hotmail.com (oparr) put finger to
 > keyboard and composed:
 >
  >>I have a 22" NEC FE2111SB monitor that seems to have recently
  >>"sprouted" 7 faint vertical lines on the screen. They are most visible
  >>on a white background and look similar to the usual 2 aperture grill
  >>horizontal lines. Any clues as to what these vertical lines are?
 >
 > There was a very similar question at sci.electronics.repair recently:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=Howfd.6958%24Ae.6584%40newsread1.dllstx09.us.to.verio.net&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dinsubject:Faint%2Binsubject:vertical%2Binsubject:streaks%2Binsubject:on%2Binsubject:new%2Binsubject:monitor%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26as_qdr%3Dm3%26selm%3DHowfd.6958%2524Ae.6584%2540newsread1.dllstx09.us.to.verio.net%26rnum%3D1</font" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=Howfd.6958%24Ae.6584...newsrea</a>>
 >
 > The OP had a SiS 6326 graphics card and a Samsung Syncmaster 793s 17"
 > monitor.
 >
 >
 > - Franc Zabkar
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 6:45 pm
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc oparr <oparr DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
 > Lines are there when connected to four different computers so it's not any
 > particular video card. It's the monitor. Also, a Google search indicated a
 > similar condition with another NEC monitor;

<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nec+%22vertical+lines%22&hl=en&lr=&scoring=d&selm=53e2ec95.0407181009.50219df5%40posting.google.com&rnum=7</font" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nec+%22vertical+lines%22&hl=en&lr=&s...ing=d&s</a>>

 > Wondering whether it was a NEC thing or the monitor is just defective.
 > Leaning towards the latter.

I tend to agree. Pretty strange effect. Maybe a mechanical thing with
the mask?

Arno
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:11 am
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On 14 Nov 2004 18:31:21 GMT, Arno Wagner <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> put finger
to keyboard and composed:

 >In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc oparr <oparr.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
  >> Lines are there when connected to four different computers so it's not any
  >> particular video card. It's the monitor. Also, a Google search indicated a
  >> similar condition with another NEC monitor;
 >
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nec+%22vertical+lines%22&hl=en&lr=&scoring=d&selm=53e2ec95.0407181009.50219df5%40posting.google.com&rnum=7</font" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nec+%22vertical+lines%22&hl=en&lr=&s...ing=d&s</a>>
 >
  >> Wondering whether it was a NEC thing or the monitor is just defective.
  >> Leaning towards the latter.
 >
 >I tend to agree. Pretty strange effect. Maybe a mechanical thing with
 >the mask?
 >
 >Arno

You could smack the face of the CRT and check whether the lines
vibrate.


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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 1:35 am
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"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar.RemoveThis@optussnet.com.au> wrote in message
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 > On 14 Nov 2004 18:31:21 GMT, Arno Wagner <me.RemoveThis@privacy.net> put finger
 > to keyboard and composed:
 >
  >>In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc oparr <oparr.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
   >>> Lines are there when connected to four different computers so it's not
   >>> any
   >>> particular video card. It's the monitor. Also, a Google search indicated
   >>> a
   >>> similar condition with another NEC monitor;
  >>
<font color=brown>   >>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nec+%22vertical+lines%22&hl=en&lr=&scoring=d&selm=53e2ec95.0407181009.50219df5%40posting.google.com&rnum=7</font" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nec+%22vertical+lines%22&hl=en&lr=&s...ing=d&s</a>>
  >>
   >>> Wondering whether it was a NEC thing or the monitor is just defective.
   >>> Leaning towards the latter.
  >>

Could be "yoke ringing", in which case a "tuning capacitor" on the
deflection yoke
my have failed, if it appeared recently. Ringing lines should look a bit
like waves, or
at least not narrow lines - original poster did not indicate whether they
are somewhat
wide, or maybe quite narrow (pixel size?). ringing is also typically mostly
on the left
side of the screen.
If so, what to do? Try asking NEC if they have a known problem, and how
they
satisfy their valuable customers who do see such problems.

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