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Since: Sep 10, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:18 am
Post subject: Vista and Dell Reinstall CD
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Hello Chaps,
Thinking of buying Windows Vista when it comes out next year, the upgrade
version will probably be much cheaper than the full version, I would imagine
that when installing an upgrade version it will ask for an old version
Windows disk to verify that the install is an upgrade. My Question is will a
Dell reinstall CD qualify as a full product, the CD is labelled "Operating
System, Reinstallation CD, Microsoft Windows XP Professional", when I insert
the CD on my homebuilt system it runs the start of the XP installation
program ( I know I wouldn't be able to use it as my PC does not have a dell
motherboard) so it seems like an XP disk, do you think this would work or am
I going to have to pay hundreds more and buy the full version.
The alterative would be to buy a new copy of XP with a free Vista upgrade
voucher inside, I can get Xp MCE Oem for £95 which would give me a free
upgrade to Vista Home Premium when it comes out.
I am going to Newyork next Feb, if I bought a copy of Xp with voucher or
even Vista it's self would it would OK in the UK ??, It is only about £55 in
USA (New Egg)
Thanks
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 3:18 am
Post subject: Re: Vista and Dell Reinstall CD [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Marcus" <tonymarcus44.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello Chaps,
>
> Thinking of buying Windows Vista when it comes out next year, the upgrade
> version will probably be much cheaper than the full version, I would
> imagine that when installing an upgrade version it will ask for an old
> version Windows disk to verify that the install is an upgrade. My Question
> is will a Dell reinstall CD qualify as a full product, the CD is labelled
> "Operating System, Reinstallation CD, Microsoft Windows XP Professional",
> when I insert the CD on my homebuilt system it runs the start of the XP
> installation program ( I know I wouldn't be able to use it as my PC does
> not have a dell motherboard) so it seems like an XP disk, do you think
> this would work or am I going to have to pay hundreds more and buy the
> full version.
>
> The alterative would be to buy a new copy of XP with a free Vista upgrade
> voucher inside, I can get Xp MCE Oem for £95 which would give me a free
> upgrade to Vista Home Premium when it comes out.
>
> I am going to Newyork next Feb, if I bought a copy of Xp with voucher or
> even Vista it's self would it would OK in the UK ??, It is only about £55
> in USA (New Egg)
>
> Thanks
>
> Marcus
>
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Hi Marcus,
Actually, Microsoft is changing things a bit for the upcoming Vista upgrade
versions. With XP and prior, you could boot with the upgrade version
installation disc(s), then when prompted, temporarily insert the previous OS
installation disc to verify eligibility. The Vista upgrade DVD will now
require that a qualifying OS is already installed on the drive, and the
upgrade can only be run from within Windows. It can, however, perform a
clean installation upon it's first reboot, having saved your previous OS
settings, if desired, to a newly created directory, then
formatting/installing the version of Vista that you have the product key
for. The full version DVDs will be bootable and you can install cleanly
onto a blank drive, but the upgrade DVDs will require a qualifying OS
already installed on the drive. The Dell version of your previous OS is
eligible to use the upgrade version.
-Russell
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Since: Sep 02, 2006
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:10 am
Post subject: Re: Vista and Dell Reinstall CD [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> Hi Marcus,
>
> Actually, Microsoft is changing things a bit for the upcoming Vista
> upgrade versions. With XP and prior, you could boot with the upgrade
> version installation disc(s), then when prompted, temporarily insert the
> previous OS installation disc to verify eligibility. The Vista upgrade
> DVD will now require that a qualifying OS is already installed on the
> drive, and the upgrade can only be run from within Windows.
That sucks donkey dick
> It can, however, perform a clean installation upon it's first reboot,
> having saved your previous OS settings, if desired, to a newly created
> directory, then formatting/installing the version of Vista that you have
> the product key for.
What if you have two hard drives? Can you run XP off of one to perform an
"upgrade" installation of Vista onto the other one which has been freshly
formatted? -Dave >> Stay informed about: Vista and Dell Reinstall CD |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:17 am
Post subject: Re: Vista and Dell Reinstall CD [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"RussellS" <rsullivan.RemoveThis@tastycomputers.com(replace_dot_with_.)> wrote in
message news:GYadnd2GaOe71OzYnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
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> "Marcus" <tonymarcus44.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:TLSdncjh-9Xzbe3YRVnygg@pipex.net...
>> Hello Chaps,
>>
>> Thinking of buying Windows Vista when it comes out next year, the upgrade
>> version will probably be much cheaper than the full version, I would
>> imagine that when installing an upgrade version it will ask for an old
>> version Windows disk to verify that the install is an upgrade. My
>> Question is will a Dell reinstall CD qualify as a full product, the CD is
>> labelled "Operating System, Reinstallation CD, Microsoft Windows XP
>> Professional", when I insert the CD on my homebuilt system it runs the
>> start of the XP installation program ( I know I wouldn't be able to use
>> it as my PC does not have a dell motherboard) so it seems like an XP
>> disk, do you think this would work or am I going to have to pay hundreds
>> more and buy the full version.
>>
>> The alterative would be to buy a new copy of XP with a free Vista upgrade
>> voucher inside, I can get Xp MCE Oem for £95 which would give me a free
>> upgrade to Vista Home Premium when it comes out.
>>
>> I am going to Newyork next Feb, if I bought a copy of Xp with voucher or
>> even Vista it's self would it would OK in the UK ??, It is only about £55
>> in USA (New Egg)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Marcus
>>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Hi Marcus,
>
> Actually, Microsoft is changing things a bit for the upcoming Vista
> upgrade versions. With XP and prior, you could boot with the upgrade
> version installation disc(s), then when prompted, temporarily insert the
> previous OS installation disc to verify eligibility. The Vista upgrade
> DVD will now require that a qualifying OS is already installed on the
> drive, and the upgrade can only be run from within Windows. It can,
> however, perform a clean installation upon it's first reboot, having saved
> your previous OS settings, if desired, to a newly created directory, then
> formatting/installing the version of Vista that you have the product key
> for. The full version DVDs will be bootable and you can install cleanly
> onto a blank drive, but the upgrade DVDs will require a qualifying OS
> already installed on the drive. The Dell version of your previous OS is
> eligible to use the upgrade version.
>
> -Russell
> http://tastycomputers.com
>
Hello Russell,
Thanks for the reply, what would happen if I didn't have a hard drive with
Windows Xp already on it, say I was doing a new build with a blank hard
drive or my hard drive failed ?
What do you think to me buying a copy of Win Xp Media Centre edition OEM
with a free upgrade voucher to Win Vista Home Premium in the USA and
installing in the UK ?
Marcus >> Stay informed about: Vista and Dell Reinstall CD |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Vista and Dell Reinstall CD [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Major Ninth" <MajorNinthREMOVETHIS.RemoveThis@wi.rr.com> wrote in message
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> No, it just means you have to buy the FULL version. The upgrade version is
> for people that are currently using XP on thier system. It is not intended
> for fresh system builds.
>
> -john
Great in theory. In actual practice, only a total fricking moron would
install a microsoft OS on anything but a freshly formatted hard drive, even
if you are upgrading. So essentially, there IS no upgrade version of
Microsoft Vista. At least, none that can be used for the purpose
ntended. -Dave >> Stay informed about: Vista and Dell Reinstall CD |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 12:04 pm
Post subject: Re: Vista and Dell Reinstall CD [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Dave" <never RemoveThis @not.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Major Ninth" <MajorNinthREMOVETHIS RemoveThis @wi.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:hWhch.3691$U81.2040@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> No, it just means you have to buy the FULL version. The upgrade version
>> is for people that are currently using XP on thier system. It is not
>> intended for fresh system builds.
>>
>> -john
>
> Great in theory. In actual practice, only a total fricking moron would
> install a microsoft OS on anything but a freshly formatted hard drive,
> even if you are upgrading. So essentially, there IS no upgrade version of
> Microsoft Vista. At least, none that can be used for the purpose
> tended. -Dave
>
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The upgrade DVD of Vista allows for a clean installation on a freshly
formatted hard drive, as it will partition and format the destination drive
after the first reboot, getting rid of the previous OS, but optionally
saving settings and other program files, if selected, in a newly created
folder that will be in the Windows subdirectory on the new Vista
installation. The Vista upgrade from a previous OS will not perform an
in-place upgrade, like past upgrade versions, so you will always have a
clean OS installation without previous OS remnants. It just has changed as
far as how the installation routine begins; it requires to be initiated
within Windows.
-Russell
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 5:56 pm
Post subject: Re: Vista and Dell Reinstall CD [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Marcus" <tonymarcus44.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "RussellS" <rsullivan.TakeThisOut@tastycomputers.com(replace_dot_with_.)> wrote in
> message news:GYadnd2GaOe71OzYnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
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>> "Marcus" <tonymarcus44.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:TLSdncjh-9Xzbe3YRVnygg@pipex.net...
>>> Hello Chaps,
>>>
>>> Thinking of buying Windows Vista when it comes out next year, the
>>> upgrade version will probably be much cheaper than the full version, I
>>> would imagine that when installing an upgrade version it will ask for an
>>> old version Windows disk to verify that the install is an upgrade. My
>>> Question is will a Dell reinstall CD qualify as a full product, the CD
>>> is labelled "Operating System, Reinstallation CD, Microsoft Windows XP
>>> Professional", when I insert the CD on my homebuilt system it runs the
>>> start of the XP installation program ( I know I wouldn't be able to use
>>> it as my PC does not have a dell motherboard) so it seems like an XP
>>> disk, do you think this would work or am I going to have to pay hundreds
>>> more and buy the full version.
>>>
>>> The alterative would be to buy a new copy of XP with a free Vista
>>> upgrade voucher inside, I can get Xp MCE Oem for £95 which would give me
>>> a free upgrade to Vista Home Premium when it comes out.
>>>
>>> I am going to Newyork next Feb, if I bought a copy of Xp with voucher or
>>> even Vista it's self would it would OK in the UK ??, It is only about
>>> £55 in USA (New Egg)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> Hi Marcus,
>>
>> Actually, Microsoft is changing things a bit for the upcoming Vista
>> upgrade versions. With XP and prior, you could boot with the upgrade
>> version installation disc(s), then when prompted, temporarily insert the
>> previous OS installation disc to verify eligibility. The Vista upgrade
>> DVD will now require that a qualifying OS is already installed on the
>> drive, and the upgrade can only be run from within Windows. It can,
>> however, perform a clean installation upon it's first reboot, having
>> saved your previous OS settings, if desired, to a newly created
>> directory, then formatting/installing the version of Vista that you have
>> the product key for. The full version DVDs will be bootable and you can
>> install cleanly onto a blank drive, but the upgrade DVDs will require a
>> qualifying OS already installed on the drive. The Dell version of your
>> previous OS is eligible to use the upgrade version.
>>
>> -Russell
>> http://tastycomputers.com
>>
> Hello Russell,
>
> Thanks for the reply, what would happen if I didn't have a hard drive with
> Windows Xp already on it, say I was doing a new build with a blank hard
> drive or my hard drive failed ?
>
> What do you think to me buying a copy of Win Xp Media Centre edition OEM
> with a free upgrade voucher to Win Vista Home Premium in the USA and
> installing in the UK ?
>
> Marcus
That's maybe OK in the first instance but what happens when your vista
system crashes and you have to rebuild? Do you have to install XP first?
That would be ridiculous!!!
Eddie
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Vista and Dell Reinstall CD [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:17:02 -0700, RussellS wrote:
>It just has changed as
> far as how the installation routine begins; it requires to be initiated
> within Windows.
And I bet the only reason they did this was because they figured it would
force more people to opt for the more expensive full version - bastages. >> Stay informed about: Vista and Dell Reinstall CD |
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