new build problems

"Icrashrc" <icrashrc.RemoveThis@aol.com.my-wife> wrote in message
news:20040404142706.07304.00000600@mb-m18.aol.com...
 > I've just finished assembling a new system. When I try to turn it on the
fans
 > get power for less than 1/2 second, then shutdown.
 > Nothing else happens.
 > The case, CPU, power supply, and GPU fan all start, then immediately stop.
To
 > make it do even that again I have to hold the power on switch for 5
seconds,
 > let off, the push it again. Or shut off the power supply switch long
enough for
 > the green led on the motherboard to go out. I've taken the whole thing
apart
 > and reassembled, then double checked all connections again. No change. any
 > guess what the problem is. My only thought is the power supply itself
because
 > it doesn't power up long enough to be much else. System specs..
 > Antec SLK3700-BQE w/350 watt PS
 > Asus P4P 800 MB
 > XFX FX5200 personal cinema graphics
 > TDK 440 N DVD burner
 > P4-3.0
 > 2@ 512mb Kingston PC4000
 > Seagate 80 MB HD
 >
 > I've tried with only the apg card, CPU and fan, HD, and one stick of ram
 > installed. No change. TIA
 > remove my-wife to reply

Two thoughts, try setting the m/b in the cardboard box or something other
than the case, you may have one of the set pins grounding out the board.
Second thought is a bad p/s; when I rebuild my son's system, new
m/b-processor-ram-vid, into a working case and p/s, nothing would work,
tried second working p/s-nothing. Was just about to send m/b back and tried
in an old system lying in the basement and it fired right up.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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 >Icrashrc wrote:
 >
  >> I've just finished assembling a new system. When I try to turn it on the
 >fans
  >> get power for less than 1/2 second, then shutdown.
  >> Nothing else happens.
  >> The case, CPU, power supply, and GPU fan all start, then immediately stop.
 >To
  >> make it do even that again I have to hold the power on switch for 5
 >seconds,
  >> let off, the push it again. Or shut off the power supply switch long enough
 >for
  >> the green led on the motherboard to go out. I've taken the whole thing
 >apart
  >> and reassembled, then double checked all connections again. No change. any
  >> guess what the problem is. My only thought is the power supply itself
 >because
  >> it doesn't power up long enough to be much else. System specs..
  >> Antec SLK3700-BQE w/350 watt PS
  >> Asus P4P 800 MB
  >> XFX FX5200 personal cinema graphics
  >> TDK 440 N DVD burner
  >> P4-3.0
  >> 2@ 512mb Kingston PC4000
  >> Seagate 80 MB HD
  >>
  >> I've tried with only the apg card, CPU and fan, HD, and one stick of ram
  >> installed. No change. TIA
  >> remove my-wife to reply
 >
 >The symptom you describe sounds like something shorting out the power
 >supply, or it being overloaded, and any defective component can do that:
 >motherboard, processor, display card, hard drive, CD, etc.
 >
 >If it's new equipment, though, odds are that something is connected wrong
 >or you have a short from the motherboard to the case (such as not having
 >the mounting stand-offs in the right place or using oversized screws where
 >the head contacts a circuit trace).
 >
 >Try disconnecting the floppy. People sometimes get the power connector off
 >center, or even upside down, and that'll short the PSU real easy.
 >
 >And, speaking of disconnecting things, you can't get power to even stay ON
 >so forget about 'booting' for the moment and try removing EVERY thing (no
 >nuttin; just the motherboard) and see if you can get past it not shorting
 >out. If that still doesn't stay on, remove the motherboard, put it on a
 >piece of cardboard (so there's nothing for it to short out to), and try
 >powering it up naked.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >

I'll try unhooking everything, then removing the MB from the case. I used only
the standoffs and mounting screws provided with the case. Also the MB manual
shows where to place screws, 9 total, leaving one hole open near the PCI slots
so that's how i did it. there was only 9 stanoffs with the case. Thanks!
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I would get your ps tested, I just blewup my ps and sounded the same
thing. what is the wattage on the ps?


Icrashrc wrote:

  >>Icrashrc wrote:
  >>
  >>
   >>>I've just finished assembling a new system. When I try to turn it on the
  >>
  >>fans
  >>
   >>>get power for less than 1/2 second, then shutdown.
   >>>Nothing else happens.
   >>>The case, CPU, power supply, and GPU fan all start, then immediately stop.
  >>
  >>To
  >>
   >>>make it do even that again I have to hold the power on switch for 5
  >>
  >>seconds,
  >>
   >>>let off, the push it again. Or shut off the power supply switch long enough
  >>
  >>for
  >>
   >>>the green led on the motherboard to go out. I've taken the whole thing
  >>
  >>apart
  >>
   >>>and reassembled, then double checked all connections again. No change. any
   >>>guess what the problem is. My only thought is the power supply itself
  >>
  >>because
  >>
   >>>it doesn't power up long enough to be much else. System specs..
   >>>Antec SLK3700-BQE w/350 watt PS
   >>>Asus P4P 800 MB
   >>>XFX FX5200 personal cinema graphics
   >>>TDK 440 N DVD burner
   >>>P4-3.0
   >>>2@ 512mb Kingston PC4000
   >>>Seagate 80 MB HD
   >>>
   >>>I've tried with only the apg card, CPU and fan, HD, and one stick of ram
   >>>installed. No change. TIA
   >>>remove my-wife to reply
  >>
  >>The symptom you describe sounds like something shorting out the power
  >>supply, or it being overloaded, and any defective component can do that:
  >>motherboard, processor, display card, hard drive, CD, etc.
  >>
  >>If it's new equipment, though, odds are that something is connected wrong
  >>or you have a short from the motherboard to the case (such as not having
  >>the mounting stand-offs in the right place or using oversized screws where
  >>the head contacts a circuit trace).
  >>
  >>Try disconnecting the floppy. People sometimes get the power connector off
  >>center, or even upside down, and that'll short the PSU real easy.
  >>
  >>And, speaking of disconnecting things, you can't get power to even stay ON
  >>so forget about 'booting' for the moment and try removing EVERY thing (no
  >>nuttin; just the motherboard) and see if you can get past it not shorting
  >>out. If that still doesn't stay on, remove the motherboard, put it on a
  >>piece of cardboard (so there's nothing for it to short out to), and try
  >>powering it up naked.
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
 >
 >
 > I'll try unhooking everything, then removing the MB from the case. I used only
 > the standoffs and mounting screws provided with the case. Also the MB manual
 > shows where to place screws, 9 total, leaving one hole open near the PCI slots
 > so that's how i did it. there was only 9 stanoffs with the case. Thanks!
 > remove my-wife to reply <!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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EzAk wrote:

 > I would get your ps tested, I just blewup my ps and sounded the same
 > thing. what is the wattage on the ps?

Just off hand I'd guess it's 350 Watts since he said it was a 350 Watt PS.


 > Icrashrc wrote:
 >
   >>> Icrashrc wrote:
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>> I've just finished assembling a new system. When I try to turn it on
   >>>> the
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> fans
   >>>
   >>>> get power for less than 1/2 second, then shutdown. Nothing else
   >>>> happens. The case, CPU, power supply, and GPU fan all start, then
   >>>> immediately stop.
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> To
   >>>
   >>>> make it do even that again I have to hold the power on switch for 5
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> seconds,
   >>>
   >>>> let off, the push it again. Or shut off the power supply switch long
   >>>> enough
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> for
   >>>
   >>>> the green led on the motherboard to go out. I've taken the whole thing
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> apart
   >>>
   >>>> and reassembled, then double checked all connections again. No
   >>>> change. any
   >>>> guess what the problem is. My only thought is the power supply itself
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> because
   >>>
   >>>> it doesn't power up long enough to be much else. System specs..
   >>>> Antec SLK3700-BQE w/350 watt PS
   >>>> Asus P4P 800 MB
   >>>> XFX FX5200 personal cinema graphics
   >>>> TDK 440 N DVD burner
   >>>> P4-3.0 2@ 512mb Kingston PC4000
   >>>> Seagate 80 MB HD
   >>>>
   >>>> I've tried with only the apg card, CPU and fan, HD, and one stick of
   >>>> ram
   >>>> installed. No change. TIA
   >>>> remove my-wife to reply
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> The symptom you describe sounds like something shorting out the power
   >>> supply, or it being overloaded, and any defective component can do
   >>> that: motherboard, processor, display card, hard drive, CD, etc.
   >>>
   >>> If it's new equipment, though, odds are that something is connected
   >>> wrong or you have a short from the motherboard to the case (such as
   >>> not having the mounting stand-offs in the right place or using
   >>> oversized screws where the head contacts a circuit trace).
   >>>
   >>> Try disconnecting the floppy. People sometimes get the power
   >>> connector off center, or even upside down, and that'll short the PSU
   >>> real easy.
   >>>
   >>> And, speaking of disconnecting things, you can't get power to even
   >>> stay ON so forget about 'booting' for the moment and try removing
   >>> EVERY thing (no nuttin; just the motherboard) and see if you can get
   >>> past it not shorting out. If that still doesn't stay on, remove the
   >>> motherboard, put it on a piece of cardboard (so there's nothing for
   >>> it to short out to), and try powering it up naked.
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
  >>
  >>
  >> I'll try unhooking everything, then removing the MB from the case. I
  >> used only
  >> the standoffs and mounting screws provided with the case. Also the MB
  >> manual
  >> shows where to place screws, 9 total, leaving one hole open near the
  >> PCI slots
  >> so that's how i did it. there was only 9 stanoffs with the case. Thanks!
  >> remove my-wife to reply
 >
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Well, i started with MB out of the case with nothing but the wires from the PS
plugged in and finished with CPU, RAM, and video card plugged in. No change.
1/2 a second or less and things get quiet. Any other thoughts? Buy a new PS and
see what happens? Buy a Dell? LOL
thanks,
Scott

  >> I would get your ps tested, I just blewup my ps and sounded the same
  >> thing. what is the wattage on the ps?
 >
 >Just off hand I'd guess it's 350 Watts since he said it was a 350 Watt PS.
 >
 >
  >> Icrashrc wrote:
  >>
   >>>> Icrashrc wrote:
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>> I've just finished assembling a new system. When I try to turn it on
   >>>>> the
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> fans
   >>>>
   >>>>> get power for less than 1/2 second, then shutdown. Nothing else
   >>>>> happens. The case, CPU, power supply, and GPU fan all start, then
   >>>>> immediately stop.
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> To
   >>>>
   >>>>> make it do even that again I have to hold the power on switch for 5
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> seconds,
   >>>>
   >>>>> let off, the push it again. Or shut off the power supply switch long
   >>>>> enough
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> for
   >>>>
   >>>>> the green led on the motherboard to go out. I've taken the whole thing
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> apart
   >>>>
   >>>>> and reassembled, then double checked all connections again. No
   >>>>> change. any
   >>>>> guess what the problem is. My only thought is the power supply itself
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> because
   >>>>
   >>>>> it doesn't power up long enough to be much else. System specs..
   >>>>> Antec SLK3700-BQE w/350 watt PS
   >>>>> Asus P4P 800 MB
   >>>>> XFX FX5200 personal cinema graphics
   >>>>> TDK 440 N DVD burner
   >>>>> P4-3.0 2@ 512mb Kingston PC4000
   >>>>> Seagate 80 MB HD
   >>>>>
   >>>>> I've tried with only the apg card, CPU and fan, HD, and one stick of
   >>>>> ram
   >>>>> installed. No change. TIA
   >>>>> remove my-wife to reply
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> The symptom you describe sounds like something shorting out the power
   >>>> supply, or it being overloaded, and any defective component can do
   >>>> that: motherboard, processor, display card, hard drive, CD, etc.
   >>>>
   >>>> If it's new equipment, though, odds are that something is connected
   >>>> wrong or you have a short from the motherboard to the case (such as
   >>>> not having the mounting stand-offs in the right place or using
   >>>> oversized screws where the head contacts a circuit trace).
   >>>>
   >>>> Try disconnecting the floppy. People sometimes get the power
   >>>> connector off center, or even upside down, and that'll short the PSU
   >>>> real easy.
   >>>>
   >>>> And, speaking of disconnecting things, you can't get power to even
   >>>> stay ON so forget about 'booting' for the moment and try removing
   >>>> EVERY thing (no nuttin; just the motherboard) and see if you can get
   >>>> past it not shorting out. If that still doesn't stay on, remove the
   >>>> motherboard, put it on a piece of cardboard (so there's nothing for
   >>>> it to short out to), and try powering it up naked.
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> I'll try unhooking everything, then removing the MB from the case. I
   >>> used only
   >>> the standoffs and mounting screws provided with the case. Also the MB
   >>> manual
   >>> shows where to place screws, 9 total, leaving one hole open near the
   >>> PCI slots
   >>> so that's how i did it. there was only 9 stanoffs with the case. Thanks!
   >>> remove my-wife to reply
  >>
  >>
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >


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Icrashrc wrote:

 > Well, i started with MB out of the case with nothing but the wires from the PS
 > plugged in and finished with CPU, RAM, and video card plugged in. No change.
 > 1/2 a second or less and things get quiet. Any other thoughts? Buy a new PS and
 > see what happens? Buy a Dell? LOL
 > thanks,

Well, yes and no. Take out the memory, CPU, and display card, I.E. "no
nuttin," and see if powers stays on. ('No' because that's what I originally
said. I.E. how do you know THEY are good? Which, btw, also means none of
those cute little wires to the front panel LEDs and such; just the power
switch; and I'd try tickling the power-on pins with paper clip instead of
the power switch just in case IT is 'stuck' or defective.)

The 'poor mans' PSU test is to put only a known good hard drive on it (no
motherboard or anything else) and jumper the power-on wire with an
appropriately 'U' shaped bent paper clip inserted into the motherboard
connector pins (14 to 16).

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://xtronics.com/reference/atx_pinout.htm" target="_blank">http://xtronics.com/reference/atx_pinout.htm</a>

In particular, the green wire (14) to either of the black grounds on pins
13, 15, 16, or 17. 14 to 16 is a good choice.

 > Scott
 >
 >
   >>>I would get your ps tested, I just blewup my ps and sounded the same
   >>>thing. what is the wattage on the ps?
  >>
  >>Just off hand I'd guess it's 350 Watts since he said it was a 350 Watt PS.
  >>
  >>
  >>
   >>>Icrashrc wrote:
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>>>Icrashrc wrote:
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>>I've just finished assembling a new system. When I try to turn it on
   >>>>>>the
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>fans
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>>get power for less than 1/2 second, then shutdown. Nothing else
   >>>>>>happens. The case, CPU, power supply, and GPU fan all start, then
   >>>>>>immediately stop.
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>To
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>>make it do even that again I have to hold the power on switch for 5
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>seconds,
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>>let off, the push it again. Or shut off the power supply switch long
   >>>>>>enough
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>for
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>>the green led on the motherboard to go out. I've taken the whole thing
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>apart
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>>and reassembled, then double checked all connections again. No
   >>>>>>change. any
   >>>>>>guess what the problem is. My only thought is the power supply itself
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>because
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>>it doesn't power up long enough to be much else. System specs..
   >>>>>>Antec SLK3700-BQE w/350 watt PS
   >>>>>>Asus P4P 800 MB
   >>>>>>XFX FX5200 personal cinema graphics
   >>>>>>TDK 440 N DVD burner
   >>>>>>P4-3.0 2@ 512mb Kingston PC4000
   >>>>>>Seagate 80 MB HD
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>I've tried with only the apg card, CPU and fan, HD, and one stick of
   >>>>>>ram
   >>>>>>installed. No change. TIA
   >>>>>>remove my-wife to reply
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>The symptom you describe sounds like something shorting out the power
   >>>>>supply, or it being overloaded, and any defective component can do
   >>>>>that: motherboard, processor, display card, hard drive, CD, etc.
   >>>>>
   >>>>>If it's new equipment, though, odds are that something is connected
   >>>>>wrong or you have a short from the motherboard to the case (such as
   >>>>>not having the mounting stand-offs in the right place or using
   >>>>>oversized screws where the head contacts a circuit trace).
   >>>>>
   >>>>>Try disconnecting the floppy. People sometimes get the power
   >>>>>connector off center, or even upside down, and that'll short the PSU
   >>>>>real easy.
   >>>>>
   >>>>>And, speaking of disconnecting things, you can't get power to even
   >>>>>stay ON so forget about 'booting' for the moment and try removing
   >>>>>EVERY thing (no nuttin; just the motherboard) and see if you can get
   >>>>>past it not shorting out. If that still doesn't stay on, remove the
   >>>>>motherboard, put it on a piece of cardboard (so there's nothing for
   >>>>>it to short out to), and try powering it up naked.
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>I'll try unhooking everything, then removing the MB from the case. I
   >>>>used only
   >>>>the standoffs and mounting screws provided with the case. Also the MB
   >>>>manual
   >>>>shows where to place screws, 9 total, leaving one hole open near the
   >>>>PCI slots
   >>>>so that's how i did it. there was only 9 stanoffs with the case. Thanks!
   >>>>remove my-wife to reply
   >>>
   >>>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
 >
 >
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Tried all that, nothing. Got a RMA #. Sending back just the power supply,
Mwave said no need to send the whole case back. Here i bought an Antec case
thinking i would avoid problems.........



  >> Well, i started with MB out of the case with nothing but the wires from the
 >PS
  >> plugged in and finished with CPU, RAM, and video card plugged in. No
 >change.
  >> 1/2 a second or less and things get quiet. Any other thoughts? Buy a new PS
 >and
  >> see what happens? Buy a Dell? LOL
  >> thanks,
 >
 >Well, yes and no. Take out the memory, CPU, and display card, I.E. "no
 >nuttin," and see if powers stays on. ('No' because that's what I originally
 >said. I.E. how do you know THEY are good? Which, btw, also means none of
 >those cute little wires to the front panel LEDs and such; just the power
 >switch; and I'd try tickling the power-on pins with paper clip instead of
 >the power switch just in case IT is 'stuck' or defective.)
 >
 >The 'poor mans' PSU test is to put only a known good hard drive on it (no
 >motherboard or anything else) and jumper the power-on wire with an
 >appropriately 'U' shaped bent paper clip inserted into the motherboard
 >connector pins (14 to 16).
 >
 >http://xtronics.com/reference/atx_pinout.htm
 >
 >In particular, the green wire (14) to either of the black grounds on pins
 >13, 15, 16, or 17. 14 to 16 is a good choice.
 >
  >> Scott
  >>
  >>
   >>>>I would get your ps tested, I just blewup my ps and sounded the same
   >>>>thing. what is the wattage on the ps?
   >>>
   >>>Just off hand I'd guess it's 350 Watts since he said it was a 350 Watt PS.
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>>Icrashrc wrote:
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>>>Icrashrc wrote:
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>>I've just finished assembling a new system. When I try to turn it on
   >>>>>>>the
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>fans
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>>get power for less than 1/2 second, then shutdown. Nothing else
   >>>>>>>happens. The case, CPU, power supply, and GPU fan all start, then
   >>>>>>>immediately stop.
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>To
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>>make it do even that again I have to hold the power on switch for 5
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>seconds,
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>>let off, the push it again. Or shut off the power supply switch long
   >>>>>>>enough
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>for
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>>the green led on the motherboard to go out. I've taken the whole thing
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>apart
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>>and reassembled, then double checked all connections again. No
   >>>>>>>change. any
   >>>>>>>guess what the problem is. My only thought is the power supply itself
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>because
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>>it doesn't power up long enough to be much else. System specs..
   >>>>>>>Antec SLK3700-BQE w/350 watt PS
   >>>>>>>Asus P4P 800 MB
   >>>>>>>XFX FX5200 personal cinema graphics
   >>>>>>>TDK 440 N DVD burner
   >>>>>>>P4-3.0 2@ 512mb Kingston PC4000
   >>>>>>>Seagate 80 MB HD
   >>>>>>>
   >>>>>>>I've tried with only the apg card, CPU and fan, HD, and one stick of
   >>>>>>>ram
   >>>>>>>installed. No change. TIA
   >>>>>>>remove my-wife to reply
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>The symptom you describe sounds like something shorting out the power
   >>>>>>supply, or it being overloaded, and any defective component can do
   >>>>>>that: motherboard, processor, display card, hard drive, CD, etc.
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>If it's new equipment, though, odds are that something is connected
   >>>>>>wrong or you have a short from the motherboard to the case (such as
   >>>>>>not having the mounting stand-offs in the right place or using
   >>>>>>oversized screws where the head contacts a circuit trace).
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>Try disconnecting the floppy. People sometimes get the power
   >>>>>>connector off center, or even upside down, and that'll short the PSU
   >>>>>>real easy.
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>And, speaking of disconnecting things, you can't get power to even
   >>>>>>stay ON so forget about 'booting' for the moment and try removing
   >>>>>>EVERY thing (no nuttin; just the motherboard) and see if you can get
   >>>>>>past it not shorting out. If that still doesn't stay on, remove the
   >>>>>>motherboard, put it on a piece of cardboard (so there's nothing for
   >>>>>>it to short out to), and try powering it up naked.
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>I'll try unhooking everything, then removing the MB from the case. I
   >>>>>used only
   >>>>>the standoffs and mounting screws provided with the case. Also the MB
   >>>>>manual
   >>>>>shows where to place screws, 9 total, leaving one hole open near the
   >>>>>PCI slots
   >>>>>so that's how i did it. there was only 9 stanoffs with the case. Thanks!
   >>>>>remove my-wife to reply
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>
   >>>
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Icrashrc wrote:

 > Tried all that, nothing. Got a RMA #. Sending back just the power supply,
 > Mwave said no need to send the whole case back. Here i bought an Antec case
 > thinking i would avoid problems.........
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Well, it happens. Hopefully you'll be all set with the replacement.

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   >>>Well, i started with MB out of the case with nothing but the wires from the
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  >>PS
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   >>>plugged in and finished with CPU, RAM, and video card plugged in. No
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  >>change.
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   >>>1/2 a second or less and things get quiet. Any other thoughts? Buy a new PS
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  >>and
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   >>>see what happens? Buy a Dell? LOL
   >>>thanks,
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  >>Well, yes and no. Take out the memory, CPU, and display card, I.E. "no
  >>nuttin," and see if powers stays on. ('No' because that's what I originally
  >>said. I.E. how do you know THEY are good? Which, btw, also means none of
  >>those cute little wires to the front panel LEDs and such; just the power
  >>switch; and I'd try tickling the power-on pins with paper clip instead of
  >>the power switch just in case IT is 'stuck' or defective.)
  >>
  >>The 'poor mans' PSU test is to put only a known good hard drive on it (no
  >>motherboard or anything else) and jumper the power-on wire with an
  >>appropriately 'U' shaped bent paper clip inserted into the motherboard
  >>connector pins (14 to 16).
  >>
  >>http://xtronics.com/reference/atx_pinout.htm
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  >>In particular, the green wire (14) to either of the black grounds on pins
  >>13, 15, 16, or 17. 14 to 16 is a good choice.
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   >>>Scott
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   >>>>>I would get your ps tested, I just blewup my ps and sounded the same
   >>>>>thing. what is the wattage on the ps?
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   >>>>Just off hand I'd guess it's 350 Watts since he said it was a 350 Watt PS.
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   >>>>>Icrashrc wrote:
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   >>>>>>>Icrashrc wrote:
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   >>>>>>>>I've just finished assembling a new system. When I try to turn it on
   >>>>>>>>the
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   >>>>>>>fans
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   >>>>>>>>get power for less than 1/2 second, then shutdown. Nothing else
   >>>>>>>>happens. The case, CPU, power supply, and GPU fan all start, then
   >>>>>>>>immediately stop.
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   >>>>>>>To
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   >>>>>>>>make it do even that again I have to hold the power on switch for 5
   >>>>>>>
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   >>>>>>>seconds,
   >>>>>>>
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   >>>>>>>>let off, the push it again. Or shut off the power supply switch long
   >>>>>>>>enough
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   >>>>>>>for
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   >>>>>>>>the green led on the motherboard to go out. I've taken the whole thing
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   >>>>>>>apart
   >>>>>>>
   >>>>>>>
   >>>>>>>
   >>>>>>>>and reassembled, then double checked all connections again. No
   >>>>>>>>change. any
   >>>>>>>>guess what the problem is. My only thought is the power supply itself
   >>>>>>>
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   >>>>>>>because
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   >>>>>>>>it doesn't power up long enough to be much else. System specs..
   >>>>>>>>Antec SLK3700-BQE w/350 watt PS
   >>>>>>>>Asus P4P 800 MB
   >>>>>>>>XFX FX5200 personal cinema graphics
   >>>>>>>>TDK 440 N DVD burner
   >>>>>>>>P4-3.0 2@ 512mb Kingston PC4000
   >>>>>>>>Seagate 80 MB HD
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   >>>>>>>>I've tried with only the apg card, CPU and fan, HD, and one stick of
   >>>>>>>>ram
   >>>>>>>>installed. No change. TIA
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   >>>>>>>The symptom you describe sounds like something shorting out the power
   >>>>>>>supply, or it being overloaded, and any defective component can do
   >>>>>>>that: motherboard, processor, display card, hard drive, CD, etc.
   >>>>>>>
   >>>>>>>If it's new equipment, though, odds are that something is connected
   >>>>>>>wrong or you have a short from the motherboard to the case (such as
   >>>>>>>not having the mounting stand-offs in the right place or using
   >>>>>>>oversized screws where the head contacts a circuit trace).
   >>>>>>>
   >>>>>>>Try disconnecting the floppy. People sometimes get the power
   >>>>>>>connector off center, or even upside down, and that'll short the PSU
   >>>>>>>real easy.
   >>>>>>>
   >>>>>>>And, speaking of disconnecting things, you can't get power to even
   >>>>>>>stay ON so forget about 'booting' for the moment and try removing
   >>>>>>>EVERY thing (no nuttin; just the motherboard) and see if you can get
   >>>>>>>past it not shorting out. If that still doesn't stay on, remove the
   >>>>>>>motherboard, put it on a piece of cardboard (so there's nothing for
   >>>>>>>it to short out to), and try powering it up naked.
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   >>>>>>I'll try unhooking everything, then removing the MB from the case. I
   >>>>>>used only
   >>>>>>the standoffs and mounting screws provided with the case. Also the MB
   >>>>>>manual
   >>>>>>shows where to place screws, 9 total, leaving one hole open near the
   >>>>>>PCI slots
   >>>>>>so that's how i did it. there was only 9 stanoffs with the case. Thanks!
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