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Since: Sep 17, 2007 Posts: 9
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:36 am
Post subject: What cards allow panning? Archived from groups: alt>comp>periphs>videocards>ati (more info?)
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| I'm using Map Point 2004 and was wondering if it's possible to open the
image far larger than my screen size and capture or copy the image to paste
into a paint program? What cards allow panning, and if your card allows
panning is it possible to make a "huge" virtual screen and then copy that
screen and paste it into a paint program?
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Since: Mar 22, 2007 Posts: 42
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:44 am
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HotRdd wrote:
> I'm using Map Point 2004 and was wondering if it's possible to open
> the image far larger than my screen size and capture or copy the
> image to paste into a paint program? What cards allow panning, and
> if
> your card allows panning is it possible to make a "huge" virtual
> screen and then copy that screen and paste it into a paint program?
The hardware on any ATI card supports this. There used to be a
setting in the drivers that allowed it to be turned on or off with a
keystroke. ATI, in their infinite wisdom, has chosen to cripple that
capability or remove it entirely from the drivers. I've asked ATI
tech support about it and all I've gotten out of them was "RTFM".
Matrox also used to support this capability, and they also have
removed it. I believe that nvidia hardware also has this capability
but as far as I know it was never well supported by the drivers.
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Since: Sep 26, 2007 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:44 am
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>HotRdd wrote:
> Are you able to do it with your ATI card or is it no longer an option? Is
> there a crack to get around this?
>
>
Hi,
I have a X1650 Pro (PCI Express) and if I set the screen resolution
larger than my native 19 inches LCD screen resolution then I would
automatically get a virtual desktop which I can pan around. I only
install the bare driver (without ATI control centre and all the scrap)
and use ATI Tray Tool program instead.
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Since: Sep 17, 2007 Posts: 9
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 10:04 am
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Are you able to do it with your ATI card or is it no longer an option? Is
there a crack to get around this?
"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
news:fddl4q075o@news2.newsguy.com...
> HotRdd wrote:
>> I'm using Map Point 2004 and was wondering if it's possible to open
>> the image far larger than my screen size and capture or copy the
>> image to paste into a paint program? What cards allow panning, and
>> if
>> your card allows panning is it possible to make a "huge" virtual
>> screen and then copy that screen and paste it into a paint program?
>
> The hardware on any ATI card supports this. There used to be a
> setting in the drivers that allowed it to be turned on or off with a
> keystroke. ATI, in their infinite wisdom, has chosen to cripple that
> capability or remove it entirely from the drivers. I've asked ATI
> tech support about it and all I've gotten out of them was "RTFM".
>
> Matrox also used to support this capability, and they also have
> removed it. I believe that nvidia hardware also has this capability
> but as far as I know it was never well supported by the drivers.
>
> --
> --
> --John
> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
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Since: Mar 22, 2007 Posts: 42
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 4:55 pm
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HotRdd wrote:
> Are you able to do it with your ATI card or is it no longer an
> option? Is there a crack to get around this?
I've not found a crack. Just that somehow occasionally I'll get into
the mode for a while, which tells me that the hardware can still do
it. Usually happens when I'm trying to switch between three different
displays, one of which is a TV, but I've never figured out how to do
it repeatably.
> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet.RemoveThis@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:fddl4q075o@news2.newsguy.com...
>> HotRdd wrote:
>>> I'm using Map Point 2004 and was wondering if it's possible to
>>> open
>>> the image far larger than my screen size and capture or copy the
>>> image to paste into a paint program? What cards allow panning, and
>>> if
>>> your card allows panning is it possible to make a "huge" virtual
>>> screen and then copy that screen and paste it into a paint
>>> program?
>>
>> The hardware on any ATI card supports this. There used to be a
>> setting in the drivers that allowed it to be turned on or off with
>> a
>> keystroke. ATI, in their infinite wisdom, has chosen to cripple
>> that
>> capability or remove it entirely from the drivers. I've asked ATI
>> tech support about it and all I've gotten out of them was "RTFM".
>>
>> Matrox also used to support this capability, and they also have
>> removed it. I believe that nvidia hardware also has this
>> capability
>> but as far as I know it was never well supported by the drivers.
>>
>> --
>> --
>> --John
>> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
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Since: Mar 22, 2007 Posts: 42
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:00 pm
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Phil_12345.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:
>> HotRdd wrote:
>> Are you able to do it with your ATI card or is it no longer an
>> option? Is there a crack to get around this?
>>
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a X1650 Pro (PCI Express) and if I set the screen resolution
> larger than my native 19 inches LCD screen resolution then I would
> automatically get a virtual desktop which I can pan around. I only
> install the bare driver (without ATI control centre and all the
> scrap)
> and use ATI Tray Tool program instead.
>
> Hope this would help you.
Could you be kind enough to explain step by step how you do this?
I've tried it and I"m obviously missing something somewhere.
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Since: Jul 11, 2003 Posts: 330
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 5:00 pm
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In article <fdej0r0uq2 DeleteThis @news2.newsguy.com>, jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net
says...
> Phil_12345 DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
> >> HotRdd wrote:
> >> Are you able to do it with your ATI card or is it no longer an
> >> option? Is there a crack to get around this?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a X1650 Pro (PCI Express) and if I set the screen resolution
> > larger than my native 19 inches LCD screen resolution then I would
> > automatically get a virtual desktop which I can pan around. I only
> > install the bare driver (without ATI control centre and all the
> > scrap)
> > and use ATI Tray Tool program instead.
> >
> > Hope this would help you.
>
> Could you be kind enough to explain step by step how you do this?
> I've tried it and I"m obviously missing something somewhere.
>
> --
>
FWIW. I can get the same results.
Hardware: EVGA 8800 GTS 320
Viewsonic VP930b 1280x1024 native resolution
WinXP SP2
Latest drivers (Although it works with older drivers.)
Right click on the Desktop and go to Properties then Settings.
If I set the refresh rate to 75Hz I can then set the resolution up to
2048x1536 and the desktop will show up larger than the physical size of
the screen and I'm able to pan around by dragging the mouse out to the
edge of the screen. This doesn't work if the screen refresh rate is set
to 60Hz.
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Since: Sep 26, 2007 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:29 pm
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>Bill wrote:
> In article <fdej0r0uq2 RemoveThis @news2.newsguy.com>, jclarke.usenet RemoveThis @cox.net
> says...
> > Phil_12345 RemoveThis @hotmail.com wrote:
> > >> HotRdd wrote:
> > >> Are you able to do it with your ATI card or is it no longer an
> > >> option? Is there a crack to get around this?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have a X1650 Pro (PCI Express) and if I set the screen resolution
> > > larger than my native 19 inches LCD screen resolution then I would
> > > automatically get a virtual desktop which I can pan around. I only
> > > install the bare driver (without ATI control centre and all the
> > > scrap)
> > > and use ATI Tray Tool program instead.
> > >
> > > Hope this would help you.
> >
> > Could you be kind enough to explain step by step how you do this?
> > I've tried it and I"m obviously missing something somewhere.
> >
> > --
> >
>
> FWIW. I can get the same results.
>
> Hardware: EVGA 8800 GTS 320
> Viewsonic VP930b 1280x1024 native resolution
> WinXP SP2
> Latest drivers (Although it works with older drivers.)
>
> Right click on the Desktop and go to Properties then Settings.
>
> If I set the refresh rate to 75Hz I can then set the resolution up to
> 2048x1536 and the desktop will show up larger than the physical size of
> the screen and I'm able to pan around by dragging the mouse out to the
> edge of the screen. This doesn't work if the screen refresh rate is set
> to 60Hz.
>
> Bill
Hi,
I'm not sure why Bill need to set his video refresh rate to 75Hz for
the virtual desktop to work. I just test my with the refresh rate of
60 Hz and still get the same large virtual desktop.
Native resolution: 1280x1024, set max resolution 2560x1600 at 60Hz.
For the OP, what video card do you have? Perhaps there is a memory
limitation of your video card. FYI, I use ATI driver version
8.351.0.0 (driver date around Feb of this year - haven't update
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Since: Sep 17, 2007 Posts: 9
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:31 am
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I love it when you try to re-create a "problem" and it won't happen, the
minute you need to do some work or something serious it starts to happen.
Had a manager once that explained the problem like this "Every time I start
to write an important document MS Word crashes" I thought about sitting
behind their PC and pretending that it was important but that didn't make
much sense. In the end I determined that they always used the same letter
head for the important documents.
"J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
news:fdeh960t8n@news2.newsguy.com...
> HotRdd wrote:
>> Are you able to do it with your ATI card or is it no longer an
>> option? Is there a crack to get around this?
>
> I've not found a crack. Just that somehow occasionally I'll get into
> the mode for a while, which tells me that the hardware can still do
> it. Usually happens when I'm trying to switch between three different
> displays, one of which is a TV, but I've never figured out how to do
> it repeatably.
>
>> "J. Clarke" <jclarke.usenet DeleteThis @cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:fddl4q075o@news2.newsguy.com...
>>> HotRdd wrote:
>>>> I'm using Map Point 2004 and was wondering if it's possible to
>>>> open
>>>> the image far larger than my screen size and capture or copy the
>>>> image to paste into a paint program? What cards allow panning, and
>>>> if
>>>> your card allows panning is it possible to make a "huge" virtual
>>>> screen and then copy that screen and paste it into a paint
>>>> program?
>>>
>>> The hardware on any ATI card supports this. There used to be a
>>> setting in the drivers that allowed it to be turned on or off with
>>> a
>>> keystroke. ATI, in their infinite wisdom, has chosen to cripple
>>> that
>>> capability or remove it entirely from the drivers. I've asked ATI
>>> tech support about it and all I've gotten out of them was "RTFM".
>>>
>>> Matrox also used to support this capability, and they also have
>>> removed it. I believe that nvidia hardware also has this
>>> capability
>>> but as far as I know it was never well supported by the drivers.
>>>
>>> --
>>> --
>>> --John
>>> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
>>> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
>
> --
> --
> --John
> to email, dial "usenet" and validate
> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
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Since: Sep 17, 2007 Posts: 9
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 8:32 am
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I wonder if it's possible to set a resolution higher than 2048x1536
"Bill" <spamtrap.RemoveThis@tinlc.lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.21647fbe93cbc375989695@localhost...
> In article <fdej0r0uq2.RemoveThis@news2.newsguy.com>, jclarke.usenet.RemoveThis@cox.net
> says...
>> Phil_12345.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> HotRdd wrote:
>> >> Are you able to do it with your ATI card or is it no longer an
>> >> option? Is there a crack to get around this?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I have a X1650 Pro (PCI Express) and if I set the screen resolution
>> > larger than my native 19 inches LCD screen resolution then I would
>> > automatically get a virtual desktop which I can pan around. I only
>> > install the bare driver (without ATI control centre and all the
>> > scrap)
>> > and use ATI Tray Tool program instead.
>> >
>> > Hope this would help you.
>>
>> Could you be kind enough to explain step by step how you do this?
>> I've tried it and I"m obviously missing something somewhere.
>>
>> --
>>
>
> FWIW. I can get the same results.
>
> Hardware: EVGA 8800 GTS 320
> Viewsonic VP930b 1280x1024 native resolution
> WinXP SP2
> Latest drivers (Although it works with older drivers.)
>
> Right click on the Desktop and go to Properties then Settings.
>
> If I set the refresh rate to 75Hz I can then set the resolution up to
> 2048x1536 and the desktop will show up larger than the physical size of
> the screen and I'm able to pan around by dragging the mouse out to the
> edge of the screen. This doesn't work if the screen refresh rate is set
> to 60Hz.
>
> Bill
> >> Stay informed about: What cards allow panning? |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:39 pm
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In article <13fn8mjpoecgh99.DeleteThis@corp.supernews.com>, NoSpam.DeleteThis@YourEmail.com
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> I wonder if it's possible to set a resolution higher than 2048x1536
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>
Don't know. If the hardware would permit it, it would probably take
hand editing some .ini or .inf file. I wouldn't know which particular
one that would be the one to edit, but it looks like what your looking
for is at least partially feasible.
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