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Since: Jun 02, 2004 Posts: 44
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(Msg. 16) Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:55 pm
Post subject: Re: comparing types of compact flash cards: regular, ultra, extreme, etc [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: alt>comp>periphs>dcameras (more info?)
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Hank Williams? Now that was just plain insultin'
"Ron" <rkrebs1.RemoveThis@rcn.com> wrote in message
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> "Gymmy Bob" <nospamming.RemoveThis@bite.me> wrote in message
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> > Please explain how you transfer the tape to your computer
> >
> > "Ron" <rkrebs1.RemoveThis@rcn.com> wrote in message
> > news:40fddeec$0$5631$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
> > >
> > > "Gymmy Bob" <nospamming.RemoveThis@bite.me> wrote in message
> > > news:D_ydnU3EfeZbXmDdRVn-jA@golden.net...
> > > > Then you can figure out how long those minitapes are and then figure
> out
> > > how
> > > > to get them on your computer. I few hundred dollars worth of gadgets
> > > should
> > > > digitize your movies into the lowest resolution you have ever seen.
> > > >
> > > > "Ron" <rkrebs1.RemoveThis@rcn.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:40fd11a4$0$5634$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Rick S." <rnospamschilf.RemoveThis@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:nnumf0h42co67ravlc5i6vg1c5gpjh0ksr@4ax.com...
> > > > > > I'm shopping for a high capacity (512MB or 1 gig) for my new
canon
> > S1
> > > > > > IS, (I want to use its 640x480 movie capability, necessitating
> high
> > > > > > capacity). I see a few types on the market, I'm asking for info
> > from
> > > > > > those that have experience or knowledge. I'm leaving brand name
> > > > > > considerations out, so as not to muddy the issue. So far, it
> looks
> > > > > > like the only significant difference between type I and type II
> is
> > > > > > the physical size; so if I get a type II it won't fit in my old
> > canon
> > > > > > SD110. No biggy, really, I've resigned myself to get a type II.
> The
> > S1
> > > > > > IS takes either one. So my concern is that I believe that
taking
> > > > > > movies may REQUIRE a 'high speed' CF card, and the best I can
> deduce
> > > > > > is that the regular type will write maybe 6MB/sec, 'ultra' will
> > write
> > > > > > at 9MB/sec, the 'extreme' claims 16MB/sec, but also has inernal
> > > > > > recovery s/w if the card fails.
> > > > > > A 512Mb CF card, roughly, goes for: regular type II, 100-125$.
> Ultra
> > > > > > type II, 175$. Extreme type II, 250$ !!!
> > > > > > Obviously, I'd rather not spend more money for speed I don't
need,
> I
> > > > > > would think there's a memory buffer in the camera that acts as a
> > > > > > reservoir while it's filming, writing to the flash card as the
> flash
> > > > > > card can take it. But if there's any risk at all that the card
is
> > the
> > > > > > week point, I'm willing to spend the extra money for the
'ultra'.
> > The
> > > > > > 'extreme' sounds nice, but as we all know from the great
'steve's
> > > > > > review' (and others) site, there is third party recovery s/w
> > available
> > > > > > to recover images from a failed card, so I'm dubious about the
> > feature
> > > > > > of internal recovery s/w.
> > > > > > Please, talk to me!
> > > > > > thanks so much,
> > > > > > Rick
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Why wrack your brain over stuff like this? If you're looking at
> > spending
> > > > > $200-300, just get a camcorder. Camcorder=Video, Digicam=Stills.
Got
> > it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Ron
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Sorry, wrong again. The miniDV tapes are extremely easy to xfer to
> > computer.
> > > And there are many NLE programs that have built in capture options.
What
> > in
> > > hell are you talking about?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> Are you one of the 4400? How long have you been out of touch with
> humanity/technology? Well, where should I start? There's this thing called
> Firewire. No, the cable does not actually ignite. So don't get
excited(like
> the time you found out about toilet paper...no more corncobs). What? You
say
> you don't have FW? Hmm, bet you're thinking, "here comes the few hundred
> dollars purchase" that you alluded to earlier. Now, I know this might
> postpone the $15.95 Kentucky Fried Chicken spread you planned for your
> sister's wedding to your cousin who just got over a messy divorce from his
> sister, but guess what?? The FW card costs less!!! Hot damn! Next, they
have
> these new-fangled motion picture thingys called camcorders. Now, as you
sit
> back scratching those nasty fleas, I'll try to explain this in layman's
> terms. There's this tiny hole in the camcorder called an AV port(actually
> it's an IEEE 1394 firewire port but I won't make you more dizzy with the
> details). Welp, you just stick one end of the FW cable into the camera and
> the other end into the FW port in the back of your computer. Yep, just
slide
> 'er right in, sorta how you connect to ol' Bessie after you milk her. So,
at
> this point, if you haven't fallen asleep with visions of "The King"
dancing
> in yur noggin', we come to the part of the schoolin' where I list, oh,
about
> fifteen or so programs that somehow "magically" transfer the digital
signal
> on the miniDV tape via an onboard digitizer(called DV/IN) pass-through,
> right smack dab to your 'puter. In no particular order there's Adobe
> Premiere Pro, Sony Vegas 5.0, WinDV, AVI_IO, DVIO, Home DV SenseCapture,
> ScenalyzerLive, Ulead Studio, Pinnacle, DVapp, Windows Moviemaker,
> EditStudio, Exsate VideoExpress, mpegable X4 Live, neoDVD, ad nauseum.
When
> your 'corder is connected to your 'puter and you flip the camera switch to
> VCR, the particular capture program opens automatically(this is providing
> you've recently upgraded from Windows 3.11 to XP). Some of these thar
gizmo
> programs actually will detect the scenes in your recording as it is
> transferred to your computer as an AVI file(which is nothing more than a
> generic "container" format, if you will, non-compressed) ready for you to
> edit and convert to MPEG format. "Well, confound it! That's gonna cost me
a
> few hundred dollars," you say? Not so, my Ozark friend. Turn down Hank
> Williams for a sec and listen up good. Several of these modern-day
pandoras
> are actually free. Yep, free, just like the two-for-one specials yur momma
> gives down at the local watering hole on a Saturday night. Hope this
helps.
>
> Ron
>
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Since: Jul 01, 2004 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 10:21 pm
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"Rick S." <rnospamschilf.TakeThisOut@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> pricegrabber.com has a pretty good selection, Sandisk ultras and
> extremes, type I and type II.
I'm pretty sure the ultras and extremes are all type one. The only type II's
are hitachi's microdrive and magicstor's plus card (sold under a few
different names, and is not compatible with a lot of cameras). Seagate has
one in the works.
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Since: Nov 18, 2003 Posts: 46
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:50 am
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"Rick" <me.RemoveThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> "Ron" <rkrebs1.RemoveThis@rcn.com> wrote in message
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> > "Rick S." <rnospamschilf.RemoveThis@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:35:49 -0400, "Ron" <rkrebs1.RemoveThis@rcn.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I will never carry a video cam.
> >
> > Just curious. Why? With the compactness of todays's camcorders, it's
hardly
> > considered carrying anything at all. Sony's handycams fit in your palm.
The
> > output is fantastic.
> >
> >
> > >I bought the
> > > camera for stills, but it does happen to have one of the largest
> > > frame size movie capability, so I don't want to prevent its useage by
> > > buying a CF card that is too slow for it.
> >
> > Really. I have what most reviewers consider to be the best motion
picture
> > taking digicam on the market today (Fuji FinePix S7000 640 x 480 at
30fps)
>
> Eh? Canon's S1 IS is also 640x480 @30fps, has 10x zoom
> instead of 6x, and unlike the S7000 one can actually USE the
> zoom during movie mode. It's also $300 less expensive.
>
> Rick
>
>
Yeah, it's a nice camera. It's $300 less than S7k? So it's going for $117?
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Since: Sep 26, 2003 Posts: 147
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:50 am
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"Ron" <rkrebs1 RemoveThis @rcn.com> wrote in message news:41006ede$0$5634$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
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> "Rick" <me RemoveThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:2m9u6dFkh1m2U1@uni-berlin.de...
> > "Ron" <rkrebs1 RemoveThis @rcn.com> wrote in message
> news:40ffbb2d$0$5629$61fed72c@news.rcn.com...
> > >
> > > "Rick S." <rnospamschilf RemoveThis @pacbell.net> wrote in message
> > > news:lqsuf0dsgkdgtccfuu2tte7v5gpt37bdha@4ax.com...
> > > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:35:49 -0400, "Ron" <rkrebs1 RemoveThis @rcn.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I will never carry a video cam.
> > >
> > > Just curious. Why? With the compactness of todays's camcorders, it's
> hardly
> > > considered carrying anything at all. Sony's handycams fit in your palm.
> The
> > > output is fantastic.
> > >
> > >
> > > >I bought the
> > > > camera for stills, but it does happen to have one of the largest
> > > > frame size movie capability, so I don't want to prevent its useage by
> > > > buying a CF card that is too slow for it.
> > >
> > > Really. I have what most reviewers consider to be the best motion
> picture
> > > taking digicam on the market today (Fuji FinePix S7000 640 x 480 at
> 30fps)
> >
> > Eh? Canon's S1 IS is also 640x480 @30fps, has 10x zoom
> > instead of 6x, and unlike the S7000 one can actually USE the
> > zoom during movie mode. It's also $300 less expensive.
>
> Yeah, it's a nice camera. It's $300 less than S7k? So it's going for $117?
SRP is $799 for the S7000 and $499 for the S1 IS.
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Since: Nov 18, 2003 Posts: 46
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:52 am
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"Gymmy Bob" <nospamming.RemoveThis@bite.me> wrote in message
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> Hear, hear!
>
> I totally agree with that one. If I can't fit it in my pocket and have it
> with me, I can't use it now, can I?
>
> Before Ron comments on the size of my pockets, specify which one is left.
My
> PDA is in one, My Blackberry is in another, Cell phone in the back, walkie
> talkie in the other, GPS strapped to my belt and my 5 megapixel 10x zoom,
> 640x480 30fps miniature camera in the top one.
>
> WTF will I carry my DSLR you recommend so highly and my Movie Cam? I gave
up
> my skateboard as a child and aren't gonna' pull one with camera shit on
it.
> I gave up that camera habit after I figured out I had no life.
>
> My picture motto: Transparent or not at all.
>
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Since: Jul 26, 2004 Posts: 6
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 12:38 pm
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Does anyone have any Shipping and handling
with Ritek 512 MB 52x Compact flash cards? Seem to be less expensive
that the competition and a bit faster for use in Canon PowerShot Pro1?
TIA
On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 01:10:28 -0700, Rick S.
<rnospamschilf.DeleteThis@pacbell.net> wrote:
>I'm shopping for a high capacity (512MB or 1 gig) for my new canon S1
>IS, (I want to use its 640x480 movie capability, necessitating high
>capacity). I see a few types on the market, I'm asking for info from
>those that have experience or knowledge. I'm leaving brand name
>considerations out, so as not to muddy the issue. So far, it looks
>like the only significant difference between type I and type II is
>the physical size; so if I get a type II it won't fit in my old canon
>SD110. No biggy, really, I've resigned myself to get a type II. The S1
>IS takes either one. So my concern is that I believe that taking
>movies may REQUIRE a 'high speed' CF card, and the best I can deduce
>is that the regular type will write maybe 6MB/sec, 'ultra' will write
>at 9MB/sec, the 'extreme' claims 16MB/sec, but also has inernal
>recovery s/w if the card fails.
>A 512Mb CF card, roughly, goes for: regular type II, 100-125$. Ultra
>type II, 175$. Extreme type II, 250$ !!!
>Obviously, I'd rather not spend more money for speed I don't need, I
>would think there's a memory buffer in the camera that acts as a
>reservoir while it's filming, writing to the flash card as the flash
>card can take it. But if there's any risk at all that the card is the
>week point, I'm willing to spend the extra money for the 'ultra'. The
>'extreme' sounds nice, but as we all know from the great 'steve's
>review' (and others) site, there is third party recovery s/w available
>to recover images from a failed card, so I'm dubious about the feature
>of internal recovery s/w.
>Please, talk to me!
>thanks so much,
>Rick<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: comparing types of compact flash cards: regular, ultra, ex.. |
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