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Bob Simon

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:52 pm
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I had three partitions on a drive that had a hardware failure and now
can't be read by Windows. The only files I really care about are
*.tax. What utility will let me search for them and copy to a working
drive?

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mscotgrove

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:52 pm
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On Jan 5, 10:52 pm, Bob Simon <nob....RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
> I had three partitions on a drive that had a hardware failure and now
> can't be read by Windows.  The only files I really care about are
> *.tax.  What utility will let me search for them and copy to a working
> drive?

The answer does depend on if the drive is still accessible logically.
If the drive has become corrupted, but can be seen by a PC as a
physical drive, then recovery is probably possible. If the drive
cannot be seen by a PC (typically using a USB caddy) then you will
require specialised data recovery company.

For software recovery there are many possible programs, but the one I
have developed, www.cnwrecovery.com does have a file filter to enable
select of files by extension, such as .tax as you require. The free
demo will indicate if recovery is possible. It will also reconstruct
MBR if required.

All recovery programs should always be used with the 'duff' drive as a
slave or external drive to a working PC.

Michael

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Bob Simon

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 6:20 pm
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:28:50 -0800 (PST), "mscotgrove@aol.com"
<mscotgrove.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:

>On Jan 5, 10:52 pm, Bob Simon <nob....TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> I had three partitions on a drive that had a hardware failure and now
>> can't be read by Windows.  The only files I really care about are
>> *.tax.  What utility will let me search for them and copy to a working
>> drive?
>
>The answer does depend on if the drive is still accessible logically.
>If the drive has become corrupted, but can be seen by a PC as a
>physical drive, then recovery is probably possible. If the drive
>cannot be seen by a PC (typically using a USB caddy) then you will
>require specialised data recovery company.
>
>For software recovery there are many possible programs, but the one I
>have developed, www.cnwrecovery.com does have a file filter to enable
>select of files by extension, such as .tax as you require. The free
>demo will indicate if recovery is possible. It will also reconstruct
>MBR if required.
>
>All recovery programs should always be used with the 'duff' drive as a
>slave or external drive to a working PC.
>
>Michael

The physical media test reports: Too many errors have been detected
for the Wizard to run. Create disk image

Should I do this? If so, why and where should I put it?
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Bob Simon

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:16 pm
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:28:50 -0800 (PST), "mscotgrove@aol.com"
<mscotgrove RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:

>On Jan 5, 10:52 pm, Bob Simon <nob... RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>> I had three partitions on a drive that had a hardware failure and now
>> can't be read by Windows.  The only files I really care about are
>> *.tax.  What utility will let me search for them and copy to a working
>> drive?
>
>The answer does depend on if the drive is still accessible logically.
>If the drive has become corrupted, but can be seen by a PC as a
>physical drive, then recovery is probably possible. If the drive
>cannot be seen by a PC (typically using a USB caddy) then you will
>require specialised data recovery company.
>
>For software recovery there are many possible programs, but the one I
>have developed, www.cnwrecovery.com does have a file filter to enable
>select of files by extension, such as .tax as you require. The free
>demo will indicate if recovery is possible. It will also reconstruct
>MBR if required.
>
>All recovery programs should always be used with the 'duff' drive as a
>slave or external drive to a working PC.
>
>Michael

Please ignore previous reply.

I can't image my bad drive until I buy a larger drive to hold the
image. In the mean time, I analysed the partitions and searched for
previous partions. Type xx non resident was found twice and the scan
is only around 20% complete. What does this mean?
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mscotgrove

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:51 am
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On Jan 6, 1:16 am, Bob Simon <nob... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:28:50 -0800 (PST), "mscotgr...@aol.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <mscotgr... DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 5, 10:52 pm, Bob Simon <nob... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> I had three partitions on a drive that had a hardware failure and now
> >> can't be read by Windows.  The only files I really care about are
> >> *.tax.  What utility will let me search for them and copy to a working
> >> drive?
>
> >The answer does depend on if the drive is still accessible logically.
> >If the drive has become corrupted, but can be seen by a PC as a
> >physical drive, then recovery is probably possible.  If the drive
> >cannot be seen by a PC (typically using a USB caddy) then you will
> >require specialised data recovery company.
>
> >For software recovery there are many possible programs, but the one I
> >have developed,www.cnwrecovery.comdoes have a file filter to enable
> >select of files by extension, such as .tax as you require.  The free
> >demo will indicate if recovery is possible.  It will also reconstruct
> >MBR if required.
>
> >All recovery programs should always be used with the 'duff' drive as a
> >slave or external drive to a working PC.
>
> >Michael
>
> Please ignore previous reply.
>
> I can't image my bad drive until I buy a larger drive to hold the
> image.  In the mean time, I analysed the partitions and searched for
> previous partions.  Type xx non resident was found twice and the scan
> is only around 20% complete.  What does this mean?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You obviously have a drive that is physially failing. As Arno says,
the best first stage is to create an image of the drive - for which
you will need a licenced copy of the software. One useful feature of
the CnW software is that an image can be built up in stages, eg the
first 10GB, 50-60GB. This means that areas of the disk that are very
damaged can be skipped. You do require another drive with free space
of at least the size of your failing drive. The Type xx non resisdent
message is not very important, and normally caused by failed sectors
in the MFT - don't worry about it.

Michael
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Arno Wagner

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 5:23 am
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Previously Bob Simon <nobody.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:28:50 -0800 (PST), "mscotgrove@aol.com"
> <mscotgrove.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:

>>On Jan 5, 10:52 pm, Bob Simon <nob....DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> I had three partitions on a drive that had a hardware failure and now
>>> can't be read by Windows.  The only files I really care about are
>>> *.tax.  What utility will let me search for them and copy to a working
>>> drive?
>>
>>The answer does depend on if the drive is still accessible logically.
>>If the drive has become corrupted, but can be seen by a PC as a
>>physical drive, then recovery is probably possible. If the drive
>>cannot be seen by a PC (typically using a USB caddy) then you will
>>require specialised data recovery company.
>>
>>For software recovery there are many possible programs, but the one I
>>have developed, www.cnwrecovery.com does have a file filter to enable
>>select of files by extension, such as .tax as you require. The free
>>demo will indicate if recovery is possible. It will also reconstruct
>>MBR if required.
>>
>>All recovery programs should always be used with the 'duff' drive as a
>>slave or external drive to a working PC.
>>
>>Michael

> Please ignore previous reply.

> I can't image my bad drive until I buy a larger drive to hold the
> image. In the mean time, I analysed the partitions and searched for
> previous partions. Type xx non resident was found twice and the scan
> is only around 20% complete. What does this mean?

Operating the drive before imaging it is a very bad idea,
since it may suffer additional damage. Waif for the new drive,
imagie the old one. And then start messing around. Not before.

Arno
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Bob Simon

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:23 am
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On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 03:51:37 -0800 (PST), "mscotgrove@aol.com"
<mscotgrove.TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:

>On Jan 6, 1:16 am, Bob Simon <nob....TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:28:50 -0800 (PST), "mscotgr...@aol.com"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <mscotgr....TakeThisOut@aol.com> wrote:
>> >On Jan 5, 10:52 pm, Bob Simon <nob....TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> >> I had three partitions on a drive that had a hardware failure and now
>> >> can't be read by Windows.  The only files I really care about are
>> >> *.tax.  What utility will let me search for them and copy to a working
>> >> drive?
>>
>> >The answer does depend on if the drive is still accessible logically.
>> >If the drive has become corrupted, but can be seen by a PC as a
>> >physical drive, then recovery is probably possible.  If the drive
>> >cannot be seen by a PC (typically using a USB caddy) then you will
>> >require specialised data recovery company.
>>
>> >For software recovery there are many possible programs, but the one I
>> >have developed,www.cnwrecovery.comdoes have a file filter to enable
>> >select of files by extension, such as .tax as you require.  The free
>> >demo will indicate if recovery is possible.  It will also reconstruct
>> >MBR if required.
>>
>> >All recovery programs should always be used with the 'duff' drive as a
>> >slave or external drive to a working PC.
>>
>> >Michael
>>
>> Please ignore previous reply.
>>
>> I can't image my bad drive until I buy a larger drive to hold the
>> image.  In the mean time, I analysed the partitions and searched for
>> previous partions.  Type xx non resident was found twice and the scan
>> is only around 20% complete.  What does this mean?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>You obviously have a drive that is physially failing. As Arno says,
>the best first stage is to create an image of the drive - for which
>you will need a licenced copy of the software. One useful feature of
>the CnW software is that an image can be built up in stages, eg the
>first 10GB, 50-60GB. This means that areas of the disk that are very
>damaged can be skipped. You do require another drive with free space
>of at least the size of your failing drive. The Type xx non resisdent
>message is not very important, and normally caused by failed sectors
>in the MFT - don't worry about it.
>
>Michael

Thanks! While I understand the advice to work from a copy of the
damaged drive, I am almost overwhelmed by the urge to do something
right now. Would I be likely to make things worse by pressing the
"Reconstruct current partitions" button on the Partition analysis
screen?
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mscotgrove

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:12 am
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On Jan 6, 1:23 pm, Bob Simon <nob....RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 03:51:37 -0800 (PST), "mscotgr...@aol.com"
>
>
>
>
>
> <mscotgr....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
> >On Jan 6, 1:16 am, Bob Simon <nob....RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:28:50 -0800 (PST), "mscotgr...@aol.com"
>
> >> <mscotgr....RemoveThis@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >On Jan 5, 10:52 pm, Bob Simon <nob....RemoveThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >> >> I had three partitions on a drive that had a hardware failure and now
> >> >> can't be read by Windows.  The only files I really care about are
> >> >> *.tax.  What utility will let me search for them and copy to a working
> >> >> drive?
>
> >> >The answer does depend on if the drive is still accessible logically.
> >> >If the drive has become corrupted, but can be seen by a PC as a
> >> >physical drive, then recovery is probably possible.  If the drive
> >> >cannot be seen by a PC (typically using a USB caddy) then you will
> >> >require specialised data recovery company.
>
> >> >For software recovery there are many possible programs, but the one I
> >> >have developed,www.cnwrecovery.comdoeshave a file filter to enable
> >> >select of files by extension, such as .tax as you require.  The free
> >> >demo will indicate if recovery is possible.  It will also reconstruct
> >> >MBR if required.
>
> >> >All recovery programs should always be used with the 'duff' drive as a
> >> >slave or external drive to a working PC.
>
> >> >Michael
>
> >> Please ignore previous reply.
>
> >> I can't image my bad drive until I buy a larger drive to hold the
> >> image.  In the mean time, I analysed the partitions and searched for
> >> previous partions.  Type xx non resident was found twice and the scan
> >> is only around 20% complete.  What does this mean?- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >You obviously have a drive that is physially failing.  As Arno says,
> >the best first stage is to create an image of the drive - for which
> >you will need a licenced copy of the software. One useful feature of
> >the CnW software is that an image can be built up in stages, eg the
> >first 10GB, 50-60GB.  This means that areas of the disk that are very
> >damaged can be skipped.  You do require another drive with free space
> >of at least the size of your failing drive.  The Type xx non resisdent
> >message is not very important, and normally caused by failed sectors
> >in the MFT - don't worry about it.
>
> >Michael
>
> Thanks! While I understand the advice to work from a copy of the
> damaged drive, I am almost overwhelmed by the urge to do something
> right now.  Would I be likely to make things worse by pressing the
> "Reconstruct current partitions" button on the Partition analysis
> screen?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Once a drive has failed, recovery is much more complex, and more
expensive.

Be patient, and try and read the drive once - CnW software has to be
registered to save the disk image.

Michael
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:26 pm
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> This means that areas of the disk that are very damaged can be
skipped.  
>
> Pity you won't know that it's damaged after you have tried
> those areas rather extensively already to make that conclusion.
> And that is doing precisely what you are trying to avoid.
>

In actual fact, there is a mode so that when a number of bad sectors
are detected consecuatively, another number can be jumped. For
instance, if 10 sectors in a row are found failed, the program can
jump 1000 sectors. Each number can be varied. This means that the
program will not dwell on reading bad sectors for too long.

At then end of a image, it is always possible to go back and work on
these problem areas, but only once the vast majority of the disk has
been imaged.

Some lonks from the help

http://www.cnwrecovery.com/html/damaged_disks.html
http://www.cnwrecovery.com/html/disk_errors.html
http://www.cnwrecovery.com/manual/index.html
http://www.cnwrecovery.com/manual/index.html


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Folkert Rienstra

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:02 pm
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mscotgrove.TakeThisOut@aol.com wrote in news:ada82807-cd54-4174-a247-1cde181b7ae4@m77g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
> On Jan 6, 1:16 am, Bob Simon <nob....TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:28:50 -0800 (PST), "mscotgr...@aol.com" wrote:
> > > On Jan 5, 10:52 pm, Bob Simon <nob....TakeThisOut@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > > > I had three partitions on a drive that had a hardware failure and now
> > > > can't be read by Windows. The only files I really care about are
> > > > *.tax. What utility will let me search for them and copy to a working
> > > > drive?
> >
> > > The answer does depend on if the drive is still accessible logically.
> > > If the drive has become corrupted, but can be seen by a PC as a
> > > physical drive, then recovery is probably possible. If the drive
> > > cannot be seen by a PC (typically using a USB caddy) then you will
> > > require specialised data recovery company.
> >
> > > For software recovery there are many possible programs, but the one I
> > > have developed,www.cnwrecovery.comdoes have a file filter to enable
> > > select of files by extension, such as .tax as you require. The free
> > > demo will indicate if recovery is possible. It will also reconstruct
> > > MBR if required.
> >
> > > All recovery programs should always be used with the 'duff' drive as a
> > > slave or external drive to a working PC.
> >
> > > Michael
> >
> > Please ignore previous reply.
> >
> > I can't image my bad drive until I buy a larger drive to hold the
> > image. In the mean time, I analysed the partitions and searched for
> > previous partions. Type xx non resident was found twice and the scan
> > is only around 20% complete. What does this mean?- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You obviously have a drive that is physially failing. As Arno says,
> the best first stage is to create an image of the drive -

> for which you will need a licenced copy of the software.

Ah, there we go. The businessman finally emerges.

> One useful feature of the CnW software is that an image
> can be built up in stages, eg the> first 10GB, 50-60GB.

> This means that areas of the disk that are very damaged can be skipped.
Pity you won't know that it's damaged after you have tried
those areas rather extensively already to make that conclusion.
And that is doing precisely what you are trying to avoid.

> You do require another drive with free space
> of at least the size of your failing drive.

> The Type xx non resisdent message is not very important,

Of course not.

> and normally caused by failed sectors in the MFT -

Right, why say so when you can conceal that particular meaning
by giving a nondescript message.

> don't worry about it.

Yes, you are using a program made by a duff person. Don't worry about it.

>
> Michael
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:19 pm
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Bob Simon <nobody RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 03:51:37 -0800 (PST), "mscotgrove@aol.com"
> <mscotgrove RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 6, 1:16 am, Bob Simon <nob... RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:28:50 -0800 (PST), "mscotgr...@aol.com"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <mscotgr... RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 5, 10:52 pm, Bob Simon <nob... RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>> I had three partitions on a drive that had a hardware failure and
>>>>> now can't be read by Windows. The only files I really care about
>>>>> are *.tax. What utility will let me search for them and copy to a
>>>>> working drive?
>>>
>>>> The answer does depend on if the drive is still accessible
>>>> logically. If the drive has become corrupted, but can be seen by a
>>>> PC as a physical drive, then recovery is probably possible. If the
>>>> drive cannot be seen by a PC (typically using a USB caddy) then
>>>> you will require specialised data recovery company.
>>>
>>>> For software recovery there are many possible programs, but the
>>>> one I have developed,www.cnwrecovery.comdoes have a file filter to
>>>> enable select of files by extension, such as .tax as you require.
>>>> The free demo will indicate if recovery is possible. It will also
>>>> reconstruct MBR if required.
>>>
>>>> All recovery programs should always be used with the 'duff' drive
>>>> as a slave or external drive to a working PC.
>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>
>>> Please ignore previous reply.
>>>
>>> I can't image my bad drive until I buy a larger drive to hold the
>>> image. In the mean time, I analysed the partitions and searched for
>>> previous partions. Type xx non resident was found twice and the scan
>>> is only around 20% complete. What does this mean?- Hide quoted text
>>> -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> You obviously have a drive that is physially failing. As Arno says,
>> the best first stage is to create an image of the drive - for which
>> you will need a licenced copy of the software. One useful feature of
>> the CnW software is that an image can be built up in stages, eg the
>> first 10GB, 50-60GB. This means that areas of the disk that are very
>> damaged can be skipped. You do require another drive with free space
>> of at least the size of your failing drive. The Type xx non
>> resisdent message is not very important, and normally caused by
>> failed sectors in the MFT - don't worry about it.
>>
>> Michael
>
> Thanks! While I understand the advice to work from a copy of the
> damaged drive, I am almost overwhelmed by the urge to do something
> right now. Would I be likely to make things worse by pressing the
> "Reconstruct current partitions" button on the Partition analysis screen?

Very likely.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:19 pm
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Rod Speed wrote in news:5ucl9jF1h0r3jU1@mid.individual.net
> Bob Simon <nobody DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 03:51:37 -0800 (PST), mscotgrove DeleteThis @aol.com <mscotgrove DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Jan 6, 1:16 am, Bob Simon <nob... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:28:50 -0800 (PST), mscotgr... DeleteThis @aol.com wrote:
> > > > > On Jan 5, 10:52 pm, Bob Simon <nob... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I had three partitions on a drive that had a hardware failure and
> > > > > > now can't be read by Windows. The only files I really care about
> > > > > > are *.tax. What utility will let me search for them and copy to a
> > > > > > working drive?
> > > >
> > > > > The answer does depend on if the drive is still accessible
> > > > > logically. If the drive has become corrupted, but can be seen by a
> > > > > PC as a physical drive, then recovery is probably possible. If the
> > > > > drive cannot be seen by a PC (typically using a USB caddy) then
> > > > > you will require specialised data recovery company.
> > > >
> > > > > For software recovery there are many possible programs, but the
> > > > > one I have developed,www.cnwrecovery.comdoes have a file filter to
> > > > > enable select of files by extension, such as .tax as you require.
> > > > > The free demo will indicate if recovery is possible. It will also
> > > > > reconstruct MBR if required.
> > > >
> > > > > All recovery programs should always be used with the 'duff' drive
> > > > > as a slave or external drive to a working PC.
> > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > > Please ignore previous reply.
> > > >
> > > > I can't image my bad drive until I buy a larger drive to hold the
> > > > image. In the mean time, I analysed the partitions and searched for
> > > > previous partions. Type xx non resident was found twice and the scan
> > > > is only around 20% complete. What does this mean?- Hide quoted text
> > > > -
> > > >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> > >
> > > You obviously have a drive that is physially failing. As Arno says,
> > > the best first stage is to create an image of the drive - for which
> > > you will need a licenced copy of the software. One useful feature of
> > > the CnW software is that an image can be built up in stages, eg the
> > > first 10GB, 50-60GB. This means that areas of the disk that are very
> > > damaged can be skipped. You do require another drive with free space
> > > of at least the size of your failing drive. The Type xx non
> > > resisdent message is not very important, and normally caused by
> > > failed sectors in the MFT - don't worry about it.
> > >
> > > Michael
> >
> > Thanks! While I understand the advice to work from a copy of the
> > damaged drive, I am almost overwhelmed by the urge to do something
> > right now. Would I be likely to make things worse by pressing the
> > "Reconstruct current partitions" button on the Partition analysis screen?

> Very likely.

Such confidence in the duff guys sof(t)ware.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:19 pm
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Folkert Rienstra <see_reply-to RemoveThis @myweb.nl> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Bob Simon <nobody RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote
>>> mscotgrove RemoveThis @aol.com <mscotgrove RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote
>>>> Bob Simon <nob... RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote
>>>>> mscotgrove RemoveThis @aol.com <mscotgrove RemoveThis @aol.com> wrote
>>>>>> Bob Simon <nob... RemoveThis @nowhere.com> wrote

>>>>>>> I had three partitions on a drive that had a hardware failure
>>>>>>> and now can't be read by Windows. The only files I really care
>>>>>>> about are *.tax. What utility will let me search for them and
>>>>>>> copy to a working drive?
>>>>>
>>>>>> The answer does depend on if the drive is still accessible
>>>>>> logically. If the drive has become corrupted, but can be seen by
>>>>>> a PC as a physical drive, then recovery is probably possible. If
>>>>>> the drive cannot be seen by a PC (typically using a USB caddy)
>>>>>> then you will require specialised data recovery company.
>>>>>
>>>>>> For software recovery there are many possible programs, but the
>>>>>> one I have developed,www.cnwrecovery.comdoes have a file filter
>>>>>> to enable select of files by extension, such as .tax as you
>>>>>> require. The free demo will indicate if recovery is possible. It
>>>>>> will also reconstruct MBR if required.
>>>>>
>>>>>> All recovery programs should always be used with the 'duff' drive
>>>>>> as a slave or external drive to a working PC.

>>>>> Please ignore previous reply.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't image my bad drive until I buy a larger drive to hold the
>>>>> image. In the mean time, I analysed the partitions and searched
>>>>> for previous partions. Type xx non resident was found twice and
>>>>> the scan is only around 20% complete. What does this mean
>>>>
>>>> You obviously have a drive that is physially failing. As Arno
>>>> says, the best first stage is to create an image of the drive -
>>>> for which you will need a licenced copy of the software. One
>>>> useful feature of the CnW software is that an image can be built
>>>> up in stages, eg the first 10GB, 50-60GB. This means that areas
>>>> of the disk that are very damaged can be skipped. You do require
>>>> another drive with free space of at least the size of your failing
>>>> drive. The Type xx non resisdent message is not very important,
>>>> and normally caused by failed sectors in the MFT - don't worry
>>>> about it.

>>> Thanks! While I understand the advice to work from a copy of the
>>> damaged drive, I am almost overwhelmed by the urge to do something
>>> right now. Would I be likely to make things worse by pressing the
>>> "Reconstruct current partitions" button on the Partition analysis screen?

>> Very likely.

> Such confidence in the duff guys sof(t)ware.

Nothing to do with the software, everything to do with the state of the drive.

Makes a lot more sense to clone it first before attempting to do anything else.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:19 pm
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Previously Bob Simon <nobody DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 03:51:37 -0800 (PST), "mscotgrove@aol.com"
> <mscotgrove DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:

>>On Jan 6, 1:16 am, Bob Simon <nob... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:28:50 -0800 (PST), "mscotgr...@aol.com"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> <mscotgr... DeleteThis @aol.com> wrote:
>>> >On Jan 5, 10:52 pm, Bob Simon <nob... DeleteThis @nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> >> I had three partitions on a drive that had a hardware failure and now
>>> >> can't be read by Windows.  The only files I really care about are
>>> >> *.tax.  What utility will let me search for them and copy to a working
>>> >> drive?
>>>
>>> >The answer does depend on if the drive is still accessible logically.
>>> >If the drive has become corrupted, but can be seen by a PC as a
>>> >physical drive, then recovery is probably possible.  If the drive
>>> >cannot be seen by a PC (typically using a USB caddy) then you will
>>> >require specialised data recovery company.
>>>
>>> >For software recovery there are many possible programs, but the one I
>>> >have developed,www.cnwrecovery.comdoes have a file filter to enable
>>> >select of files by extension, such as .tax as you require.  The free
>>> >demo will indicate if recovery is possible.  It will also reconstruct
>>> >MBR if required.
>>>
>>> >All recovery programs should always be used with the 'duff' drive as a
>>> >slave or external drive to a working PC.
>>>
>>> >Michael
>>>
>>> Please ignore previous reply.
>>>
>>> I can't image my bad drive until I buy a larger drive to hold the
>>> image.  In the mean time, I analysed the partitions and searched for
>>> previous partions.  Type xx non resident was found twice and the scan
>>> is only around 20% complete.  What does this mean?- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>You obviously have a drive that is physially failing. As Arno says,
>>the best first stage is to create an image of the drive - for which
>>you will need a licenced copy of the software. One useful feature of
>>the CnW software is that an image can be built up in stages, eg the
>>first 10GB, 50-60GB. This means that areas of the disk that are very
>>damaged can be skipped. You do require another drive with free space
>>of at least the size of your failing drive. The Type xx non resisdent
>>message is not very important, and normally caused by failed sectors
>>in the MFT - don't worry about it.
>>
>>Michael

> Thanks! While I understand the advice to work from a copy of the
> damaged drive, I am almost overwhelmed by the urge to do something
> right now. Would I be likely to make things worse by pressing the
> "Reconstruct current partitions" button on the Partition analysis
> screen?

You are likely to make things worse by powering up the drive!
Don't do it until you are ready to image!

Arno
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:19 pm
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Arno Wagner wrote in news:5ud8ujF1h9a11U1@mid.individual.net
> Previously Bob Simon <nobody.DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 03:51:37 -0800 (PST), "mscotgrove@aol.com"
> > <mscotgrove.DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 6, 1:16 am, Bob Simon <nob....DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 15:28:50 -0800 (PST), "mscotgr...@aol.com"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <mscotgr....DeleteThis@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Jan 5, 10:52 pm, Bob Simon <nob....DeleteThis@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I had three partitions on a drive that had a hardware failure and
> > > > > > now can't be read by Windows. The only files I really care about are
> > > > > > *.tax. What utility will let me search for them and copy to a
> > > > > > working drive?
> > > >
> > > > > The answer does depend on if the drive is still accessible logically.
> > > > > If the drive has become corrupted, but can be seen by a PC as a
> > > > > physical drive, then recovery is probably possible. If the drive
> > > > > cannot be seen by a PC (typically using a USB caddy) then you will
> > > > > require specialised data recovery company.
> > > >
> > > > > For software recovery there are many possible programs, but the one I
> > > > > have developed,www.cnwrecovery.comdoes have a file filter to enable
> > > > > select of files by extension, such as .tax as you require. The free
> > > > > demo will indicate if recovery is possible. It will also reconstruct
> > > > > MBR if required.
> > > >
> > > > > All recovery programs should always be used with the 'duff' drive as a
> > > > > slave or external drive to a working PC.
> > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > > Please ignore previous reply.
> > > >
> > > > I can't image my bad drive until I buy a larger drive to hold the
> > > > image. In the mean time, I analysed the partitions and searched for
> > > > previous partions. Type xx non resident was found twice and the scan
> > > > is only around 20% complete. What does this mean?- Hide quoted text -
> > > >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> > >
> > > You obviously have a drive that is physially failing. As Arno says,
> > > the best first stage is to create an image of the drive - for which
> > > you will need a licenced copy of the software. One useful feature of
> > > the CnW software is that an image can be built up in stages, eg the
> > > first 10GB, 50-60GB. This means that areas of the disk that are very
> > > damaged can be skipped. You do require another drive with free space
> > > of at least the size of your failing drive. The Type xx non resisdent
> > > message is not very important, and normally caused by failed sectors
> > > in the MFT - don't worry about it.
> > >
> > > Michael
>
> > Thanks! While I understand the advice to work from a copy of the
> > damaged drive, I am almost overwhelmed by the urge to do something
> > right now. Would I be likely to make things worse by pressing the
> > "Reconstruct current partitions" button on the Partition analysis
> > screen?

> You are likely to make things worse by powering up the drive!

Yup.

> Don't do it until you are ready to image!

Good thing that you don't have to power the drive in order to image it.
Brilliant.

>
> Arno
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