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fake3

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Since: Nov 14, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:35 am
Post subject: Some games crash XP Home, some don't?
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A while back I had a new HD fitted onto my machine and had XP Home put onto
that. So, the only thing different about my PC is the O/S.

Anyway, suffice to say, even after a lot of patching, defragging, virus
checking, updating and so on, a lot of my games started crashing to the
desktop. And I don't mean old games that aren't compatible with XP, either.
These are new games such as Hal-Life 2, Painkiller and Farcry.

I feel I should point out that other games seem to work fine, such as:
Diablo 2, Tombraider 2, Civ 3, Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and Thief 1 and
2.

So what's going on? Most people seem to suggest overheating, but if that
were true why aren't the above games crashing? Also, why does Farcry crash
more or less instantly, whereas I can play Painkiller for a while and HL2
for even longer? Anyway, my CPU never goes above 60 (which I realise is a
bit on the high side, but it was no higher on Win98 - ON THE SAME PC!).

If it were something like bad RAM, then the above argument would still apply
(nothing crashed on 9Cool.

By the way, let's get my sys-specs out of the way:

XP Home with all updates apart from SP2
AMD 2600
512 DDR 3200
2 HD's with gigs of space
SB Audigy 2 (latest drivers)
Radeon 9700 (latest drivers but have tried a lot of others)
MSI MB with all updates apart from BIOS (see below as to why)

Nothing is overclocked!

Yes, I suppose that updating the BIOS my help but IT'S THE SAME MB! Anyway,
I would only risk a 'disk' update and not a 'windows' one in case something
went wrong. Only I can't because my old internal FD was never recognised by
XP so I had to by an external USB one and that will only be recognised as
drive "B" not "A". S I haven't risked it, but I have tried the following
(after consulting lots of old posts:

Lowered AGP to 8
Put graphics to AGP
Turned of sys-restore
Nothing but essentials in background
Turned off virus checker

And quite a few other things!

One last bit of info I can give you are the temps and voltage of my system
(I use a utility from MSI to tell me this so I do not have to enter BIOS):

CPU temp: 53
Sys temp: 42
FSB: 167
Vcore: 1.650
Memory Voltage: 2.60
AGP voltage: 1.55
3.3C: 3.22
+5v: 4.97
+12v: 11.42

Lastly, my chip (2600): 167MHz x 12.5

I am posting this message to quite a few groups (not cross-posting) because
I really am at my wit's end now.

Thanks for any help

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johnson_robert1

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Since: Dec 24, 2004
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 8:35 am
Post subject: Re: Some games crash XP Home, some don't? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Mother Farquhar wrote:
 > A while back I had a new HD fitted onto my machine and had XP Home put onto
 > that. So, the only thing different about my PC is the O/S.
 >
 > Anyway, suffice to say, even after a lot of patching, defragging, virus
 > checking, updating and so on, a lot of my games started crashing to the
 > desktop. And I don't mean old games that aren't compatible with XP, either.
 > These are new games such as Hal-Life 2, Painkiller and Farcry.
 >
 > I feel I should point out that other games seem to work fine, such as:
 > Diablo 2, Tombraider 2, Civ 3, Heroes of Might and Magic 3 and Thief 1 and
 > 2.
 >
 > So what's going on? Most people seem to suggest overheating, but if that
 > were true why aren't the above games crashing? Also, why does Farcry crash
 > more or less instantly, whereas I can play Painkiller for a while and HL2
 > for even longer? Anyway, my CPU never goes above 60 (which I realise is a
 > bit on the high side, but it was no higher on Win98 - ON THE SAME PC!).
 >
 > If it were something like bad RAM, then the above argument would still apply
 > (nothing crashed on 9Cool.
 >
 > By the way, let's get my sys-specs out of the way:
 >
 > XP Home with all updates apart from SP2
 > AMD 2600
 > 512 DDR 3200
 > 2 HD's with gigs of space
 > SB Audigy 2 (latest drivers)
 > Radeon 9700 (latest drivers but have tried a lot of others)
 > MSI MB with all updates apart from BIOS (see below as to why)
 >
 > Nothing is overclocked!
 >
 > Yes, I suppose that updating the BIOS my help but IT'S THE SAME MB! Anyway,
 > I would only risk a 'disk' update and not a 'windows' one in case something
 > went wrong. Only I can't because my old internal FD was never recognised by
 > XP so I had to by an external USB one and that will only be recognised as
 > drive "B" not "A". S I haven't risked it, but I have tried the following
 > (after consulting lots of old posts:
 >
 > Lowered AGP to 8
 > Put graphics to AGP
 > Turned of sys-restore
 > Nothing but essentials in background
 > Turned off virus checker
 >
 > And quite a few other things!
 >
 > One last bit of info I can give you are the temps and voltage of my system
 > (I use a utility from MSI to tell me this so I do not have to enter BIOS):
 >
 > CPU temp: 53
 > Sys temp: 42
 > FSB: 167
 > Vcore: 1.650
 > Memory Voltage: 2.60
 > AGP voltage: 1.55
 > 3.3C: 3.22
 > +5v: 4.97
 > +12v: 11.42
 >
 > Lastly, my chip (2600): 167MHz x 12.5
 >
 > I am posting this message to quite a few groups (not cross-posting) because
 > I really am at my wit's end now.
 >
 > Thanks for any help
 >
 >
 >
 >
Reduce the hardware acceleration of your sound card a notch or two and
see if this makes a difference<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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YanquiDawg

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Since: Apr 02, 2004
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 5:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Some games crash XP Home, some don't? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Have you tried the latest video card drivers and updated your motherboard
drivers?

 >A while back I had a new HD fitted onto my machine and had XP Home put onto
 >that. So, the only thing different about my PC is the O/S.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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