How many graphics cards have you owned ?

Built in Atari 800XL (1985?)
Apple ][e 80 column card
Built in Atari 130XE
CGA (in a 286 16 MHz) 1990
Several unknown 256 and 512k cards
Diamond Stealth 3D (486DX-50) 1991
Built in Cirrus Logic (Packard Bell 486DX-50 oc'ed to 66)
Built in SiS 8 Meg (AMD K6/2-350 - oc'ed to 390)
Voodoo3 3000 (Currently running second monitor on my computer)
TNT2 (currently in kids' computer)
GeForce2 MX400 (oc'ed but don't remember the speeds - currently at stock
speeds in wife's computer)
GeForce3 Ti200 (oc'ed to 220/460) <== I'm typing this message on this one

and waiting on FedEx for an Asus FX5600...

I've probably missed several computers/cards in there... The list is so damn
long.

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"Nick Le Lievre" <spamme RemoveThis @thisaddress.com> wrote in message
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 > Ok this will be fun list all the PC graphics you ever bought and price
paid
 > / year (if you have those details) I start obviously;
 >


Oh boy, I'll see what I can remember of the new cards I've bought...

256K VGA ISA card in 1991
1MB ASI Winjet ISA card in 1993 or 1994
1MB S3 Trio64 PCI card in January 1996
4MB ATI Xpert XL PCI card in June 1999
8MB ATI Xpert 98 AGP card in January 2000
32MB ATI Xpert 2000 AGP card in April 2000
32MB Asus GeForce2 MX AGP card in April 2001
64MB MSI GeForce3 Ti500 AGP card in June 2002
128MB ATI Radeon 9700 Pro AGP card in March 2003
128MB ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AGP card in July 2003

I've owned other video cards in other systems, but I'm just focusing on my
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note some descriptions won't be 100% accurate as I don't have a photographic
memory.

generic Cirrus Logic video card w/ 512kb video ram (forgot the exact model
#) ~1993
ATI Mach64 w/ 1mb video ram (later upgraded to 2mb of video ram)
Matrox Mystique w/ 4mb sgram
Matrox m3D (short-lived tile-based 3d card)
3D Blaster Vodoo2 - 8mb
Diamond Monster 3D Voodoo2 - 12mb
ATI RageIIC 8mb
original Geforce DDR w/ 32mb ram
Geforce 3 Ti-200 w/ 64mb ram
ATI Radeon 9500pro


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Trident 2 meg
Trident ISA 4 meg
Monster PCI 16 meg..was defective-$???
Creative Labs PCI TNT 16mg-$170
Diamond TNT2 Viper770 32mg-$300 can(and I said this would be the only high
end card
I would ever buy)
Gforce 256 32mg-$150
Gforce 2 GTS 32mg-$150
Extasy G3Ti200-64mg-$349
MSI-G4Ti4200VTD8X-128mg-$210
XFX-FX5600-256mg (biggest disappointment of them all..got rid of it
quick)-$249
ATI Raedon 9600XT-128-$299
Canadian dollar value..too much..bought them all when first released..except
for the G4..over $1500 Can.
Sold most of them off..my main runs the Raedon...the kids the G4..the G3 is
in a box for spare parts.
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My first card was a 4 color 8 bit IBM ISA --- about 160.00$ back in the day
Then stuck with diamond multimedia/S3:
many Stealth extremes 32meg PCI's (50.00$)
FireGL 3000 (2700.00$)
on a used machine- 3DFX Voodoo 3 2000
until ATI's:
128 rage pro AIW, 7500 AIW, 9200, 9500 pro, 9700pro,

"Nick Le Lievre" <spamme RemoveThis @thisaddress.com> wrote in message news:bu24rv$cpsdk$1@ID-77022.news.uni-berlin.de...
 > Ok this will be fun list all the PC graphics you ever bought and price paid
 > / year (if you have those details) I start obviously;
 >
 > Tseng Labs ET4000 1MB ISA 1993 (came with my first PC 486 cost £ 1200)
 > S3 Vision 964 Diamond Stealth 2MB VRAM 1995 £ 250 PCI 2D Only (local
 > supplier)
 > 3DFX 3D Monster Voodoo 2 8MB PCI 3D only (linked to Diamond 2D card 1998 £
 > 170 (local supplier)
 > nvidia TNT2 Non Ultra OEM 16MB AGP 1999 £ 110 (trade price local supplier)
 > nvidia Geforce DDR 32MB AGP 2000 £ 130 (overclockers.co.uk)
 > 3DFX Voodoo 3 2000 AGP £ 70 2000 (dabs.com) for 2nd PC
 > nvidia Geforce 2 MX 400 32MB AGP £ 70 2001 (dabs.com) for 2nd PC
 > nvidia Geforce 2 GTS 32MB AGP £ 70 2001 (dabs.com) entry level gfx for new
 > built PC replacing one sold with the Geforce DDR
 > nvidia Geforce 2 MX 200 32MB AGP £ 25 2002 (dabs.com) to run in a server
 > nvidia Geforce 4 Ti4200 64MB AGP £ 65 2003 (uk.adverts.computer) my current
 > card
 > ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB AGP £ 130 2004 eBay.com (to replace current card
 > which will go into 2nd PC)
 >
 > TCO £ 1090 ($1918) graphics budget over 9 years.
 >
 >
 >
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i dont know the exact order anymore

c64 buildin
amiga buildin
512kb vga on 286
Tseng Labs ET4000 1MB on 486
ati card ??? on p1 150@180
upgraded with videlogic powervr (addon like voodoo1)
riva 128
ati rage 128 now on k6-2/400@500
upgraded with voodoo2 8mb pci
savage3 3d
voodoo 3
nvidia tnt 1
geforce 2mx now in p3 550@733
geforce 4mx 440
geforce 4ti4200
geforce fx5600
return to ti4200 now on p4 2400@3200
geforce fx5900

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"Nick Le Lievre" wrote
 > Ok this will be fun list all the PC graphics you ever bought and price
paid
 > / year (if you have those details) I


Hi,

fun post. . .
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
512k ISA Unknown - 1996? - £Free - Gift from friend who helped me build
first PC

2MB PCI S3 Virge - 1996? - £60/£0.00 Sold) - Bought at local computer fair.
(P1)

16MB PCI Voodoo Banshee - 1997? - £Free/+£60.00 Sold) - Gift from
Brother.(P1)

16MB AGP Voodoo3? - 1998? - £120/£0.00 Sold) - My first AGP card. (PIII)

32MB AGP TNT2 Ultra - 1999 - £175/£0.00 Sold) - My first nVidia Card. (PIII)

32MB AGP GeForce256 DDR - 1999? - £200 - My first T&L card (PIIIe)

128MB AGP Radeon 9800 - 2003 - £216/*£256.00 - My first ATI card. (XP+)
(*Inc. 8 x TweakMonster Ramsinks (£20.00) & Artic VGA Silencer (£20.00).
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

So due to the fact I sold my cards on after a period of use, and was given a
couple, I make that a net total of £396.00 spent on graphics cards over a
period of 8 or 9 years!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy sh*t I almost can't believe that
My friend recently blew £400.00 on a 256MB FX5900 (lol!).
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Cirrus Logic 5436 1MB - 1995
ATI Mach64 2MB - 1996 (returned it within 5 days - my first ATI
disapointement, and switched back to CL)
MSI Geforce 4 440mx 64MB - 2002
ATI Radeon 9600XT 128MB - 2003 (returned it within 10 day - my second and
NEVER TO HAPPEN AGAIN ATI-disapointement)
MSI Geforce 5900 non-ultra - 2003 (ROCKS!)



"Nick Le Lievre" <spamme.DeleteThis@thisaddress.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:bu24rv$cpsdk$1@ID-77022.news.uni-berlin.de...
 > Ok this will be fun list all the PC graphics you ever bought and price
paid
 > / year (if you have those details) I start obviously;
 >
 > Tseng Labs ET4000 1MB ISA 1993 (came with my first PC 486 cost £ 1200)
 > S3 Vision 964 Diamond Stealth 2MB VRAM 1995 £ 250 PCI 2D Only (local
 > supplier)
 > 3DFX 3D Monster Voodoo 2 8MB PCI 3D only (linked to Diamond 2D card 1998 £
 > 170 (local supplier)
 > nvidia TNT2 Non Ultra OEM 16MB AGP 1999 £ 110 (trade price local supplier)
 > nvidia Geforce DDR 32MB AGP 2000 £ 130 (overclockers.co.uk)
 > 3DFX Voodoo 3 2000 AGP £ 70 2000 (dabs.com) for 2nd PC
 > nvidia Geforce 2 MX 400 32MB AGP £ 70 2001 (dabs.com) for 2nd PC
 > nvidia Geforce 2 GTS 32MB AGP £ 70 2001 (dabs.com) entry level gfx for new
 > built PC replacing one sold with the Geforce DDR
 > nvidia Geforce 2 MX 200 32MB AGP £ 25 2002 (dabs.com) to run in a server
 > nvidia Geforce 4 Ti4200 64MB AGP £ 65 2003 (uk.adverts.computer) my
current
 > card
 > ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB AGP £ 130 2004 eBay.com (to replace current card
 > which will go into 2nd PC)
 >
 > TCO £ 1090 ($1918) graphics budget over 9 years.
 >
 >
 >
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The following is for my personal CPU at home only

S3 Trio 1MB (Built-in on Compaq Presario Pentium 100)
Matrox Mystique 2 MB (couldn't afford the Millenium)
Diamond V330 4MB (riva128)......probally most significant upgrade really
Matrox G200 8MB
Diamond v770 16MB (tnt ultra)
Nvidia Gforce 256 w/ sdram 32MB
VisionTek Geforce2 GTS 32MB
Gainward Geforce3 TI 200 64MB
Ati Radeon 9500pro 128MB (current and doing well)





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 > Built in Atari 800XL (1985?)
 > Apple ][e 80 column card
 > Built in Atari 130XE
 > CGA (in a 286 16 MHz) 1990
 > Several unknown 256 and 512k cards
 > Diamond Stealth 3D (486DX-50) 1991
 > Built in Cirrus Logic (Packard Bell 486DX-50 oc'ed to 66)
 > Built in SiS 8 Meg (AMD K6/2-350 - oc'ed to 390)
 > Voodoo3 3000 (Currently running second monitor on my computer)
 > TNT2 (currently in kids' computer)
 > GeForce2 MX400 (oc'ed but don't remember the speeds - currently at stock
 > speeds in wife's computer)
 > GeForce3 Ti200 (oc'ed to 220/460) <== I'm typing this message on this one
 >
 > and waiting on FedEx for an Asus FX5600...
 >
 > I've probably missed several computers/cards in there... The list is so
damn
 > long.
 >
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 > 3dFx Voodoo3 3000 HP D3857A 15" Monitor
 > Acer 24x10x40 CDRW Nostromo n50 Speedpad
 >
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huh, some oak 1mb back in 91 (with a 386), sold
trident something that sucked in 95 with new p120
replaced in 95 by a s3 trio 64v+ $100 (2d), sold
97 matrox mystique 2mb (2d/3d, no true transparency effects, but very nice
to play mech2 and screamer 2/rally with hd accel, few dx games supported
it ) $170 (still running in this computer for dual monitor)
98 matrox m3d 4mb (power vr pcx2) $90 got tired faster... nothing suported
it (getting dust)
98 cl voodoo2 12mb (3d only) $180
99 cl voodoo2 12mb (SLI mode ) $120, pair sold
00 tnt2 m64 32mb, sad, but was way faster then the SLI in a slot A athlon...
and q3 looked much better, sold quick after buying
00 herc gf2mx 32mb 5.5ns ...$170, working in this computer
01 cl gf3ti200 16mb 4.0ns $260, sold
02 old cl tnt 16mbs from a friend $12.5, working in a server
03 cl gf4 ti4200 8x 64mb 3.6ns $109, working as a cheap replacement to the
gf3

$1311.5, always in half/low range cards, my highlights were the v2 12mbs
sli, gave me almost 3 happy years with only a k6 200mhz that kicked my
friends p2's and k6-2 with 740's and tnt's.
The gf3 lasted very well on a tb1333, as I hate AA, It served me well and I
almost note no difference to the 4200 I got to replace it, as I don't play
very often. I regret the tn2 and powervr, the others served me well.


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 > Cirrus Logic 5436 1MB - 1995
 > ATI Mach64 2MB - 1996 (returned it within 5 days - my first ATI
 > disapointement, and switched back to CL)
 > MSI Geforce 4 440mx 64MB - 2002
 > ATI Radeon 9600XT 128MB - 2003 (returned it within 10 day - my second and
 > NEVER TO HAPPEN AGAIN ATI-disapointement)
 > MSI Geforce 5900 non-ultra - 2003 (ROCKS!)
 >
 >
 >
 > "Nick Le Lievre" <spamme.TakeThisOut@thisaddress.com> skrev i meddelandet
 > news:bu24rv$cpsdk$1@ID-77022.news.uni-berlin.de...
  > > Ok this will be fun list all the PC graphics you ever bought and price
 > paid
  > > / year (if you have those details) I start obviously;
  > >
  > > Tseng Labs ET4000 1MB ISA 1993 (came with my first PC 486 cost £ 1200)
  > > S3 Vision 964 Diamond Stealth 2MB VRAM 1995 £ 250 PCI 2D Only (local
  > > supplier)
  > > 3DFX 3D Monster Voodoo 2 8MB PCI 3D only (linked to Diamond 2D card 1998
£
  > > 170 (local supplier)
  > > nvidia TNT2 Non Ultra OEM 16MB AGP 1999 £ 110 (trade price local
supplier)
  > > nvidia Geforce DDR 32MB AGP 2000 £ 130 (overclockers.co.uk)
  > > 3DFX Voodoo 3 2000 AGP £ 70 2000 (dabs.com) for 2nd PC
  > > nvidia Geforce 2 MX 400 32MB AGP £ 70 2001 (dabs.com) for 2nd PC
  > > nvidia Geforce 2 GTS 32MB AGP £ 70 2001 (dabs.com) entry level gfx for
new
  > > built PC replacing one sold with the Geforce DDR
  > > nvidia Geforce 2 MX 200 32MB AGP £ 25 2002 (dabs.com) to run in a server
  > > nvidia Geforce 4 Ti4200 64MB AGP £ 65 2003 (uk.adverts.computer) my
 > current
  > > card
  > > ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB AGP £ 130 2004 eBay.com (to replace current
card
  > > which will go into 2nd PC)
  > >
  > > TCO £ 1090 ($1918) graphics budget over 9 years.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
 >
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On 1/13/2004 5:09 PM Nick Le Lievre brightened our day with:

 >Ok this will be fun list all the PC graphics you ever bought and price paid
 >/ year (if you have those details) I start obviously;
 >
 >
 >
 >
several pre-quake 2d cards
Voodoo 1 1997 don't remember
Voodoo 3 3000 1999 $200 USD
GeForce 3 Ti500 2001 $380
Radeon 9600 Pro 2003 $175

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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:09:15 -0000, "Nick Le Lievre"
<spamme.RemoveThis@thisaddress.com> wrote:

 >Ok this will be fun list all the PC graphics you ever bought and price paid
 >/ year (if you have those details) I start obviously;

Why you... okay... here's mine:

I'll cheat with the first 32bit system as it had GOOD graphics.

1992 $0 Amiga3000 computer with 1mb onboard video/system
1995 $50 Trident 9600 1mb - Very fast for Playing Doom/Quake1
1996 $90 Generic S3 8xx series card (2mb/PCI) in Pentium 133
1996 $70 Diamond S3-3D (4mb/AGP) My 1st AGP - in PII-266 PC
1997 $50 ATI Rage 64? (4mb/AGP) Played JSF in 32bit output!!
1998 $125 CL Voodoo1 (4mb/PCI) ADD-ON Card. 1st TRUE 3D gaming
1998 $100 CL Banshee (16mb/AGP) - Good cheap 3D graphics!
1999 $125 3Dfx Voodoo3-2000 (16mb/AGP)
2000 $100 3Dfx Voodoo3-3000 (16mb/AGP)
2000 $145 Herculese GF2mx (16mb/AGP) - Same as GF2mx400
2001 $125 ABIT GF2 Pro (32mb/AGP)
2001 $150 MSI GF3 Ti200 (64mb/AGP)
2002 $140 MSI Ti4200 (64mb/AGP) - When UT2003 was new.
2003 $0 ATI 9800Pro (128mb/AGP) - An inventory mistake

TOTAL $1,270 USDollars

What happened to the cards, how much I SOLD them for.

30 Diamon AGP
30 ATI 64
50 Voodoo1
50 Banshee
For Sale Voodoo3 2000
50 Voodoo3 3000
50 GF2 MX
100 GF2 PRO
75 GF3 Ti200
2nd PC GF4 Ti4200
  ATI 9800 PRO
=============================
435 Cards Sold (credited)
$835 Total Spent

My Voodoo3 is in another PC because its video card failed... but I may
keep the replacement for trade (ATI9000PRO,RMAed) as the Voodoo3 is in
an OLD P3 Computers... and not usable in todays hardware)

I built and sell PCs, so I've UPGRADED when I could SELL my video
card. So for the Ti4200 - I really paid $75 to upgrade over the GF3
card.... or the Voodoo1 - it was $125 - but I had traded a HUGE box of
PC books (Given by a client who threw them away) at a stupid PC Trade
store.... so I really paid $25 out of pocket money... back then the
Voodoo2 was a 8mb $250 video card!!

The ATi9800 was included with a computer system it wasn't supposed to
be included with, for a business PC (today, it has NEVER played a 3D
game)... so do I, (A) Sorry ****, you didn't invoice this card or (B)
Use available video that was paid for and put in own PC. PS: I got
the 9800Pro just before the 9800XT was annouced...

(And yes, if it went to a client or friend who was into games, I would
have left it in) PS: The system was already discounted off $400.


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On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:09:15 -0000, "Nick Le Lievre"
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 >Ok this will be fun list all the PC graphics you ever bought and price paid
 >/ year (if you have those details) I start obviously;

I can't remember dates, but will usually be within a month or so of
release:

Trident crap 2MB something that was built into an Escom PC.
Matrox Mystique with Rainbow Runner, £250
Voodoo 1, £190 (my riskiest purchase as I didn't know if 3DFX would be
the next betamax)
Voodoo 2, £250
Another Voodoo 2 a couple of years later, £50
Voodoo 3 3000, £50 secondhand bought for a second PC
GeForce Pro, £250
GeForce 2 GTS, sent to me by CL when my GF1 died
GeForce 3, not sure of price but probably £200-£250
GeForce 4 4400, £180
9700 Pro, £230




 >Tseng Labs ET4000 1MB ISA 1993 (came with my first PC 486 cost £ 1200)
 >S3 Vision 964 Diamond Stealth 2MB VRAM 1995 £ 250 PCI 2D Only (local
 >supplier)
 >3DFX 3D Monster Voodoo 2 8MB PCI 3D only (linked to Diamond 2D card 1998 £
 >170 (local supplier)
 >nvidia TNT2 Non Ultra OEM 16MB AGP 1999 £ 110 (trade price local supplier)
 >nvidia Geforce DDR 32MB AGP 2000 £ 130 (overclockers.co.uk)
 >3DFX Voodoo 3 2000 AGP £ 70 2000 (dabs.com) for 2nd PC
 >nvidia Geforce 2 MX 400 32MB AGP £ 70 2001 (dabs.com) for 2nd PC
 >nvidia Geforce 2 GTS 32MB AGP £ 70 2001 (dabs.com) entry level gfx for new
 >built PC replacing one sold with the Geforce DDR
 >nvidia Geforce 2 MX 200 32MB AGP £ 25 2002 (dabs.com) to run in a server
 >nvidia Geforce 4 Ti4200 64MB AGP £ 65 2003 (uk.adverts.computer) my current
 >card
 >ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB AGP £ 130 2004 eBay.com (to replace current card
 >which will go into 2nd PC)
 >
 >TCO £ 1090 ($1918) graphics budget over 9 years.
 >
 >
 >

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