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Since: Sep 28, 2004 Posts: 21
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:03 am
Post subject: You guys were all right on my SY-6BA+ Archived from groups: alt>comp>periphs>mainboard>soyo (more info?)
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No, as everyone on the Soyo boards told me, there wasn't anything wrong with
the power supply or even the switch.
As soon as I plugged the wires from the switch into the proper position, the
whole things started to power up. (except that there is no TURBO
connection: I wonder if this could make any difference? Or where the TURBO
leads are or where they are supposed to go from and to?)
So a white screen appeared and them went black as normal and the unit then
went into its power up sequence, counting the memory, telling me about the
BIOS, identifying that there was a hard drive there somewhere.
So I went into the BIOS and saw a black and white screen with very little in
the way of contrast and couldn't see any particular definition how to
ascertain which settings were highlit. I left it while I cooked dinner,
pondering how to increase contrast, - intending to load defaults and exit or
even possibly load the settings for the hard drive. When I came back, the
screen was dead and the light on the monitor flashing, indicating no signal
from the computer at all despite all the whirring. and flashing lights on
the CD ROM on boot-up etc. So obviously I thought the problem might be
with the graphics card and replaced it to exactly the same effect.
Then I discovered that someone had left the BIOS reset pins in the reset
position, - and that I have plugged the computer in and tried to run it
while the reset pins were jumpered together; which certainly accounts for
the somewhat erratic functioning of the computer which now turns on, clicks
and whirrs continuously as if it is trying to do something. But it seems to
have nothing to tell it to send any signal whatsoever to the graphics card
to tell the monitor that there is even a computer connected.
Is there any solution for the problem or can I reset the BIOS somehow or
flash it? There is a suspicious message on the Soyo site which states
categorically in lurid red letters: "If flashing goes wrong, it may render
your motherboard unbootable thus requiring you to send your motherboard or
BIOS chip in for re-flashing (RMA)".
Obviously I have tried downloading the newest BIOS and the awd program to
install it from a floppy; AND turning off the power switch and putting the
plug back across the 2-3 jumpers to reset the BIOS again and neither
worked, - although as I mentioned I did hear the computer desperately
trying to do something. Does everybody think that it is possible to erase
all the info on the EEPROM, leaving me with no effective BIOS whatsoever to
flash or direct the computer even to look at the floppy drive to reset the
BIOS?
Does anyone know if what Soyo says is true or if there IS something I can do
to reset it or if there is some trick to flashing it?
There is another suspicious looking message on the Soyo site telling me that
If your mainboard does not show the 'Press ALT F2 for AWDFLASH' message
during POST (when memory is being counted), your mainboard does not support
the second method and can only be flashed using method
If I get nothing whatsoever on my screen because nothing whatsoever is being
sent to the monitor from the computer, does this mean REAL trouble or might
disconnecting the power plug from the mainboard do anything?
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Since: Nov 12, 2003 Posts: 26
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 11:18 am
Post subject: Re: You guys were all right on my SY-6BA+ [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Did you have the power cord disconnected whilst resetting ?
Are you able to test the monitor and/or video card in another machine?
"Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen.DeleteThis@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bphi1t$rnj$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> No, as everyone on the Soyo boards told me, there wasn't anything wrong
with
> the power supply or even the switch.
>
> As soon as I plugged the wires from the switch into the proper position,
the
> whole things started to power up. (except that there is no TURBO
> connection: I wonder if this could make any difference? Or where the TURBO
> leads are or where they are supposed to go from and to?)
>
> So a white screen appeared and them went black as normal and the unit
then
> went into its power up sequence, counting the memory, telling me about the
> BIOS, identifying that there was a hard drive there somewhere.
>
> So I went into the BIOS and saw a black and white screen with very little
in
> the way of contrast and couldn't see any particular definition how to
> ascertain which settings were highlit. I left it while I cooked dinner,
> pondering how to increase contrast, - intending to load defaults and exit
or
> even possibly load the settings for the hard drive. When I came back, the
> screen was dead and the light on the monitor flashing, indicating no
signal
> from the computer at all despite all the whirring. and flashing lights on
> the CD ROM on boot-up etc. So obviously I thought the problem might be
> with the graphics card and replaced it to exactly the same effect.
>
> Then I discovered that someone had left the BIOS reset pins in the reset
> position, - and that I have plugged the computer in and tried to run it
> while the reset pins were jumpered together; which certainly accounts
for
> the somewhat erratic functioning of the computer which now turns on,
clicks
> and whirrs continuously as if it is trying to do something. But it seems
to
> have nothing to tell it to send any signal whatsoever to the graphics card
> to tell the monitor that there is even a computer connected.
>
> Is there any solution for the problem or can I reset the BIOS somehow or
> flash it? There is a suspicious message on the Soyo site which states
> categorically in lurid red letters: "If flashing goes wrong, it may
render
> your motherboard unbootable thus requiring you to send your motherboard or
> BIOS chip in for re-flashing (RMA)".
>
> Obviously I have tried downloading the newest BIOS and the awd program to
> install it from a floppy; AND turning off the power switch and putting
the
> plug back across the 2-3 jumpers to reset the BIOS again and neither
> worked, - although as I mentioned I did hear the computer desperately
> trying to do something. Does everybody think that it is possible to erase
> all the info on the EEPROM, leaving me with no effective BIOS whatsoever
to
> flash or direct the computer even to look at the floppy drive to reset the
> BIOS?
>
> Does anyone know if what Soyo says is true or if there IS something I can
do
> to reset it or if there is some trick to flashing it?
>
> There is another suspicious looking message on the Soyo site telling me
that
> If your mainboard does not show the 'Press ALT F2 for AWDFLASH' message
> during POST (when memory is being counted), your mainboard does not
support
> the second method and can only be flashed using method
>
> If I get nothing whatsoever on my screen because nothing whatsoever is
being
> sent to the monitor from the computer, does this mean REAL trouble or
might
> disconnecting the power plug from the mainboard do anything?
>
> Licensed to Quill
>
><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: You guys were all right on my SY-6BA+ |
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Since: Sep 28, 2004 Posts: 21
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:00 pm
Post subject: Re: You guys were all right on my SY-6BA+ [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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No, actually I didnt, I merely turned off the main power switch: Soyo says
that you should disconnect the power supply from the motherboard when
resetting: If what you suggest is correct it implies that it MIGHT not be
easy to completely destroy the info on the EEPROM as Soyo suggests: I will
do that and try to reset again: (does that 5 volt still come through either
of those two wires I found when the power supply is connected? Possibly
there are capacitors there which might STILL send something through when the
plug is in the motherboard?) And the first thing I thought of was to change
video cards but that didnt have any effect.
Will report back
Many thanks
Licensed to Quill
"Erik the Bold" <nospam.TakeThisOut@KMA.com> wrote in message
news:vrpfq7nr4i9hb0@corp.supernews.com...
> Did you have the power cord disconnected whilst resetting ?
> Are you able to test the monitor and/or video card in another machine?
>
> "Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen.TakeThisOut@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:bphi1t$rnj$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> > No, as everyone on the Soyo boards told me, there wasn't anything wrong
> with
> > the power supply or even the switch.
> >
> > As soon as I plugged the wires from the switch into the proper position,
> the
> > whole things started to power up. (except that there is no TURBO
> > connection: I wonder if this could make any difference? Or where the
TURBO
> > leads are or where they are supposed to go from and to?)
> >
> > So a white screen appeared and them went black as normal and the unit
> then
> > went into its power up sequence, counting the memory, telling me about
the
> > BIOS, identifying that there was a hard drive there somewhere.
> >
> > So I went into the BIOS and saw a black and white screen with very
little
> in
> > the way of contrast and couldn't see any particular definition how to
> > ascertain which settings were highlit. I left it while I cooked dinner,
> > pondering how to increase contrast, - intending to load defaults and
exit
> or
> > even possibly load the settings for the hard drive. When I came back,
the
> > screen was dead and the light on the monitor flashing, indicating no
> signal
> > from the computer at all despite all the whirring. and flashing lights
on
> > the CD ROM on boot-up etc. So obviously I thought the problem might be
> > with the graphics card and replaced it to exactly the same effect.
> >
> > Then I discovered that someone had left the BIOS reset pins in the reset
> > position, - and that I have plugged the computer in and tried to run it
> > while the reset pins were jumpered together; which certainly accounts
> for
> > the somewhat erratic functioning of the computer which now turns on,
> clicks
> > and whirrs continuously as if it is trying to do something. But it
seems
> to
> > have nothing to tell it to send any signal whatsoever to the graphics
card
> > to tell the monitor that there is even a computer connected.
> >
> > Is there any solution for the problem or can I reset the BIOS somehow or
> > flash it? There is a suspicious message on the Soyo site which states
> > categorically in lurid red letters: "If flashing goes wrong, it may
> render
> > your motherboard unbootable thus requiring you to send your motherboard
or
> > BIOS chip in for re-flashing (RMA)".
> >
> > Obviously I have tried downloading the newest BIOS and the awd program
to
> > install it from a floppy; AND turning off the power switch and putting
> the
> > plug back across the 2-3 jumpers to reset the BIOS again and neither
> > worked, - although as I mentioned I did hear the computer desperately
> > trying to do something. Does everybody think that it is possible to
erase
> > all the info on the EEPROM, leaving me with no effective BIOS whatsoever
> to
> > flash or direct the computer even to look at the floppy drive to reset
the
> > BIOS?
> >
> > Does anyone know if what Soyo says is true or if there IS something I
can
> do
> > to reset it or if there is some trick to flashing it?
> >
> > There is another suspicious looking message on the Soyo site telling me
> that
> > If your mainboard does not show the 'Press ALT F2 for AWDFLASH' message
> > during POST (when memory is being counted), your mainboard does not
> support
> > the second method and can only be flashed using method
> >
> > If I get nothing whatsoever on my screen because nothing whatsoever is
> being
> > sent to the monitor from the computer, does this mean REAL trouble or
> might
> > disconnecting the power plug from the mainboard do anything?
> >
> > Licensed to Quill
> >
> >
>
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Since: Nov 12, 2003 Posts: 26
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 1:54 pm
Post subject: Re: You guys were all right on my SY-6BA+ [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Turning off the main power switch or pulling the cord on the power supply
should be sufficient. You don't need to disconnect ATX power connector from
the mother board. After disconnecting power, wait about 30 seconds for
capacitors to discharge, then use jumper to short appropriate pins, put
jumper back, and then re-power/boot.
"Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen.TakeThisOut@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bpihgt$ig8$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> No, actually I didnt, I merely turned off the main power switch: Soyo says
> that you should disconnect the power supply from the motherboard when
> resetting: If what you suggest is correct it implies that it MIGHT not be
> easy to completely destroy the info on the EEPROM as Soyo suggests: I will
> do that and try to reset again: (does that 5 volt still come through
either
> of those two wires I found when the power supply is connected? Possibly
> there are capacitors there which might STILL send something through when
the
> plug is in the motherboard?) And the first thing I thought of was to
change
> video cards but that didnt have any effect.
>
> Will report back
>
> Many thanks
>
> Licensed to Quill
> "Erik the Bold" <nospam.TakeThisOut@KMA.com> wrote in message
> news:vrpfq7nr4i9hb0@corp.supernews.com...
> > Did you have the power cord disconnected whilst resetting ?
> > Are you able to test the monitor and/or video card in another machine?
> >
> > "Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen.TakeThisOut@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:bphi1t$rnj$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> > > No, as everyone on the Soyo boards told me, there wasn't anything
wrong
> > with
> > > the power supply or even the switch.
> > >
> > > As soon as I plugged the wires from the switch into the proper
position,
> > the
> > > whole things started to power up. (except that there is no TURBO
> > > connection: I wonder if this could make any difference? Or where the
> TURBO
> > > leads are or where they are supposed to go from and to?)
> > >
> > > So a white screen appeared and them went black as normal and the unit
> > then
> > > went into its power up sequence, counting the memory, telling me about
> the
> > > BIOS, identifying that there was a hard drive there somewhere.
> > >
> > > So I went into the BIOS and saw a black and white screen with very
> little
> > in
> > > the way of contrast and couldn't see any particular definition how to
> > > ascertain which settings were highlit. I left it while I cooked
dinner,
> > > pondering how to increase contrast, - intending to load defaults and
> exit
> > or
> > > even possibly load the settings for the hard drive. When I came back,
> the
> > > screen was dead and the light on the monitor flashing, indicating no
> > signal
> > > from the computer at all despite all the whirring. and flashing
lights
> on
> > > the CD ROM on boot-up etc. So obviously I thought the problem might
be
> > > with the graphics card and replaced it to exactly the same effect.
> > >
> > > Then I discovered that someone had left the BIOS reset pins in the
reset
> > > position, - and that I have plugged the computer in and tried to run
it
> > > while the reset pins were jumpered together; which certainly
accounts
> > for
> > > the somewhat erratic functioning of the computer which now turns on,
> > clicks
> > > and whirrs continuously as if it is trying to do something. But it
> seems
> > to
> > > have nothing to tell it to send any signal whatsoever to the graphics
> card
> > > to tell the monitor that there is even a computer connected.
> > >
> > > Is there any solution for the problem or can I reset the BIOS somehow
or
> > > flash it? There is a suspicious message on the Soyo site which states
> > > categorically in lurid red letters: "If flashing goes wrong, it may
> > render
> > > your motherboard unbootable thus requiring you to send your
motherboard
> or
> > > BIOS chip in for re-flashing (RMA)".
> > >
> > > Obviously I have tried downloading the newest BIOS and the awd program
> to
> > > install it from a floppy; AND turning off the power switch and
putting
> > the
> > > plug back across the 2-3 jumpers to reset the BIOS again and neither
> > > worked, - although as I mentioned I did hear the computer desperately
> > > trying to do something. Does everybody think that it is possible to
> erase
> > > all the info on the EEPROM, leaving me with no effective BIOS
whatsoever
> > to
> > > flash or direct the computer even to look at the floppy drive to reset
> the
> > > BIOS?
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if what Soyo says is true or if there IS something I
> can
> > do
> > > to reset it or if there is some trick to flashing it?
> > >
> > > There is another suspicious looking message on the Soyo site telling
me
> > that
> > > If your mainboard does not show the 'Press ALT F2 for AWDFLASH'
message
> > > during POST (when memory is being counted), your mainboard does not
> > support
> > > the second method and can only be flashed using method
> > >
> > > If I get nothing whatsoever on my screen because nothing whatsoever is
> > being
> > > sent to the monitor from the computer, does this mean REAL trouble or
> > might
> > > disconnecting the power plug from the mainboard do anything?
> > >
> > > Licensed to Quill
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: You guys were all right on my SY-6BA+ |
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Since: Sep 28, 2004 Posts: 21
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:05 am
Post subject: Re: You guys were all right on my SY-6BA+ [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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After all that, still nothing whatsoever coming out of the computer into the
Monitor. All necessary whirring etc out of power supply and even processor
fan, just no output whatsoever into monitor. Any way of checking what is
going on?
"Erik the Bold" <nospam RemoveThis @KMA.com> wrote in message
news:vrpouo9h8g5mcb@corp.supernews.com...
> Turning off the main power switch or pulling the cord on the power supply
> should be sufficient. You don't need to disconnect ATX power connector
from
> the mother board. After disconnecting power, wait about 30 seconds for
> capacitors to discharge, then use jumper to short appropriate pins, put
> jumper back, and then re-power/boot.
>
> "Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen RemoveThis @compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:bpihgt$ig8$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> > No, actually I didnt, I merely turned off the main power switch: Soyo
says
> > that you should disconnect the power supply from the motherboard when
> > resetting: If what you suggest is correct it implies that it MIGHT not
be
> > easy to completely destroy the info on the EEPROM as Soyo suggests: I
will
> > do that and try to reset again: (does that 5 volt still come through
> either
> > of those two wires I found when the power supply is connected? Possibly
> > there are capacitors there which might STILL send something through when
> the
> > plug is in the motherboard?) And the first thing I thought of was to
> change
> > video cards but that didnt have any effect.
> >
> > Will report back
> >
> > Many thanks
> >
> > Licensed to Quill
> > "Erik the Bold" <nospam RemoveThis @KMA.com> wrote in message
> > news:vrpfq7nr4i9hb0@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Did you have the power cord disconnected whilst resetting ?
> > > Are you able to test the monitor and/or video card in another machine?
> > >
> > > "Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen RemoveThis @compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in
message
> > > news:bphi1t$rnj$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> > > > No, as everyone on the Soyo boards told me, there wasn't anything
> wrong
> > > with
> > > > the power supply or even the switch.
> > > >
> > > > As soon as I plugged the wires from the switch into the proper
> position,
> > > the
> > > > whole things started to power up. (except that there is no TURBO
> > > > connection: I wonder if this could make any difference? Or where the
> > TURBO
> > > > leads are or where they are supposed to go from and to?)
> > > >
> > > > So a white screen appeared and them went black as normal and the
unit
> > > then
> > > > went into its power up sequence, counting the memory, telling me
about
> > the
> > > > BIOS, identifying that there was a hard drive there somewhere.
> > > >
> > > > So I went into the BIOS and saw a black and white screen with very
> > little
> > > in
> > > > the way of contrast and couldn't see any particular definition how
to
> > > > ascertain which settings were highlit. I left it while I cooked
> dinner,
> > > > pondering how to increase contrast, - intending to load defaults and
> > exit
> > > or
> > > > even possibly load the settings for the hard drive. When I came
back,
> > the
> > > > screen was dead and the light on the monitor flashing, indicating no
> > > signal
> > > > from the computer at all despite all the whirring. and flashing
> lights
> > on
> > > > the CD ROM on boot-up etc. So obviously I thought the problem
might
> be
> > > > with the graphics card and replaced it to exactly the same effect.
> > > >
> > > > Then I discovered that someone had left the BIOS reset pins in the
> reset
> > > > position, - and that I have plugged the computer in and tried to
run
> it
> > > > while the reset pins were jumpered together; which certainly
> accounts
> > > for
> > > > the somewhat erratic functioning of the computer which now turns on,
> > > clicks
> > > > and whirrs continuously as if it is trying to do something. But it
> > seems
> > > to
> > > > have nothing to tell it to send any signal whatsoever to the
graphics
> > card
> > > > to tell the monitor that there is even a computer connected.
> > > >
> > > > Is there any solution for the problem or can I reset the BIOS
somehow
> or
> > > > flash it? There is a suspicious message on the Soyo site which
states
> > > > categorically in lurid red letters: "If flashing goes wrong, it may
> > > render
> > > > your motherboard unbootable thus requiring you to send your
> motherboard
> > or
> > > > BIOS chip in for re-flashing (RMA)".
> > > >
> > > > Obviously I have tried downloading the newest BIOS and the awd
program
> > to
> > > > install it from a floppy; AND turning off the power switch and
> putting
> > > the
> > > > plug back across the 2-3 jumpers to reset the BIOS again and neither
> > > > worked, - although as I mentioned I did hear the computer
desperately
> > > > trying to do something. Does everybody think that it is possible to
> > erase
> > > > all the info on the EEPROM, leaving me with no effective BIOS
> whatsoever
> > > to
> > > > flash or direct the computer even to look at the floppy drive to
reset
> > the
> > > > BIOS?
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know if what Soyo says is true or if there IS something
I
> > can
> > > do
> > > > to reset it or if there is some trick to flashing it?
> > > >
> > > > There is another suspicious looking message on the Soyo site telling
> me
> > > that
> > > > If your mainboard does not show the 'Press ALT F2 for AWDFLASH'
> message
> > > > during POST (when memory is being counted), your mainboard does not
> > > support
> > > > the second method and can only be flashed using method
> > > >
> > > > If I get nothing whatsoever on my screen because nothing whatsoever
is
> > > being
> > > > sent to the monitor from the computer, does this mean REAL trouble
or
> > > might
> > > > disconnecting the power plug from the mainboard do anything?
> > > >
> > > > Licensed to Quill
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Since: Nov 12, 2003 Posts: 26
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:37 pm
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Did you try the monitor on another machine?
"Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen.DeleteThis@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in message
news:bpjvgu$r9b$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> After all that, still nothing whatsoever coming out of the computer into
the
> Monitor. All necessary whirring etc out of power supply and even
processor
> fan, just no output whatsoever into monitor. Any way of checking what is
> going on?
>
>
> "Erik the Bold" <nospam.DeleteThis@KMA.com> wrote in message
> news:vrpouo9h8g5mcb@corp.supernews.com...
> > Turning off the main power switch or pulling the cord on the power
supply
> > should be sufficient. You don't need to disconnect ATX power connector
> from
> > the mother board. After disconnecting power, wait about 30 seconds for
> > capacitors to discharge, then use jumper to short appropriate pins, put
> > jumper back, and then re-power/boot.
> >
> > "Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen.DeleteThis@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:bpihgt$ig8$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> > > No, actually I didnt, I merely turned off the main power switch: Soyo
> says
> > > that you should disconnect the power supply from the motherboard when
> > > resetting: If what you suggest is correct it implies that it MIGHT not
> be
> > > easy to completely destroy the info on the EEPROM as Soyo suggests: I
> will
> > > do that and try to reset again: (does that 5 volt still come through
> > either
> > > of those two wires I found when the power supply is connected?
Possibly
> > > there are capacitors there which might STILL send something through
when
> > the
> > > plug is in the motherboard?) And the first thing I thought of was to
> > change
> > > video cards but that didnt have any effect.
> > >
> > > Will report back
> > >
> > > Many thanks
> > >
> > > Licensed to Quill
> > > "Erik the Bold" <nospam.DeleteThis@KMA.com> wrote in message
> > > news:vrpfq7nr4i9hb0@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > Did you have the power cord disconnected whilst resetting ?
> > > > Are you able to test the monitor and/or video card in another
machine?
> > > >
> > > > "Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen.DeleteThis@compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in
> message
> > > > news:bphi1t$rnj$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> > > > > No, as everyone on the Soyo boards told me, there wasn't anything
> > wrong
> > > > with
> > > > > the power supply or even the switch.
> > > > >
> > > > > As soon as I plugged the wires from the switch into the proper
> > position,
> > > > the
> > > > > whole things started to power up. (except that there is no TURBO
> > > > > connection: I wonder if this could make any difference? Or where
the
> > > TURBO
> > > > > leads are or where they are supposed to go from and to?)
> > > > >
> > > > > So a white screen appeared and them went black as normal and the
> unit
> > > > then
> > > > > went into its power up sequence, counting the memory, telling me
> about
> > > the
> > > > > BIOS, identifying that there was a hard drive there somewhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I went into the BIOS and saw a black and white screen with very
> > > little
> > > > in
> > > > > the way of contrast and couldn't see any particular definition
how
> to
> > > > > ascertain which settings were highlit. I left it while I cooked
> > dinner,
> > > > > pondering how to increase contrast, - intending to load defaults
and
> > > exit
> > > > or
> > > > > even possibly load the settings for the hard drive. When I came
> back,
> > > the
> > > > > screen was dead and the light on the monitor flashing, indicating
no
> > > > signal
> > > > > from the computer at all despite all the whirring. and flashing
> > lights
> > > on
> > > > > the CD ROM on boot-up etc. So obviously I thought the problem
> might
> > be
> > > > > with the graphics card and replaced it to exactly the same effect.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then I discovered that someone had left the BIOS reset pins in the
> > reset
> > > > > position, - and that I have plugged the computer in and tried to
> run
> > it
> > > > > while the reset pins were jumpered together; which certainly
> > accounts
> > > > for
> > > > > the somewhat erratic functioning of the computer which now turns
on,
> > > > clicks
> > > > > and whirrs continuously as if it is trying to do something. But
it
> > > seems
> > > > to
> > > > > have nothing to tell it to send any signal whatsoever to the
> graphics
> > > card
> > > > > to tell the monitor that there is even a computer connected.
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any solution for the problem or can I reset the BIOS
> somehow
> > or
> > > > > flash it? There is a suspicious message on the Soyo site which
> states
> > > > > categorically in lurid red letters: "If flashing goes wrong, it
may
> > > > render
> > > > > your motherboard unbootable thus requiring you to send your
> > motherboard
> > > or
> > > > > BIOS chip in for re-flashing (RMA)".
> > > > >
> > > > > Obviously I have tried downloading the newest BIOS and the awd
> program
> > > to
> > > > > install it from a floppy; AND turning off the power switch and
> > putting
> > > > the
> > > > > plug back across the 2-3 jumpers to reset the BIOS again and
neither
> > > > > worked, - although as I mentioned I did hear the computer
> desperately
> > > > > trying to do something. Does everybody think that it is possible
to
> > > erase
> > > > > all the info on the EEPROM, leaving me with no effective BIOS
> > whatsoever
> > > > to
> > > > > flash or direct the computer even to look at the floppy drive to
> reset
> > > the
> > > > > BIOS?
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know if what Soyo says is true or if there IS
something
> I
> > > can
> > > > do
> > > > > to reset it or if there is some trick to flashing it?
> > > > >
> > > > > There is another suspicious looking message on the Soyo site
telling
> > me
> > > > that
> > > > > If your mainboard does not show the 'Press ALT F2 for AWDFLASH'
> > message
> > > > > during POST (when memory is being counted), your mainboard does
not
> > > > support
> > > > > the second method and can only be flashed using method
> > > > >
> > > > > If I get nothing whatsoever on my screen because nothing
whatsoever
> is
> > > > being
> > > > > sent to the monitor from the computer, does this mean REAL trouble
> or
> > > > might
> > > > > disconnecting the power plug from the mainboard do anything?
> > > > >
> > > > > Licensed to Quill
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Yes, it worked fine on all other machines and works fine with the Belkin box
connected: It is only this machine which has suddenly started giving no
output to the monitor. Is it possible (meaning likely) that plugging the
power on while the jumper was connected across the reset pins has erased the
whole BIOS and left the machine not actually knowing what to do other than
to power the fan on when I press the ON switch? (Ih avent cracked how to
get Soyo's tech support people to come to the phone to tell me this)
Soyo sells a new BIOS EPROM. And it is only ten bucks. But it seems stupid
to buy it if that isnt the problem. THEY seem to want people to believe
that it is possible to do this somehow which is why they advertise how to
buy it? (I Have never seen any other manufacturer say that a new BIOS chip
would be necessary if anything went wrong with the flashing process) Is
something different about the Soyo design or is it more likely that my MB or
pentium 11 processor suddenly died when I accidentally plugged in the power
while the reset pins were connected?
"Erik the Bold" <nospam DeleteThis @KMA.com> wrote in message
news:vrsjdcmi6kle66@corp.supernews.com...
> Did you try the monitor on another machine?
>
> "Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen DeleteThis @compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:bpjvgu$r9b$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> > After all that, still nothing whatsoever coming out of the computer into
> the
> > Monitor. All necessary whirring etc out of power supply and even
> processor
> > fan, just no output whatsoever into monitor. Any way of checking what
is
> > going on?
> >
> >
> > "Erik the Bold" <nospam DeleteThis @KMA.com> wrote in message
> > news:vrpouo9h8g5mcb@corp.supernews.com...
> > > Turning off the main power switch or pulling the cord on the power
> supply
> > > should be sufficient. You don't need to disconnect ATX power
connector
> > from
> > > the mother board. After disconnecting power, wait about 30 seconds for
> > > capacitors to discharge, then use jumper to short appropriate pins,
put
> > > jumper back, and then re-power/boot.
> > >
> > > "Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen DeleteThis @compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in
message
> > > news:bpihgt$ig8$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> > > > No, actually I didnt, I merely turned off the main power switch:
Soyo
> > says
> > > > that you should disconnect the power supply from the motherboard
when
> > > > resetting: If what you suggest is correct it implies that it MIGHT
not
> > be
> > > > easy to completely destroy the info on the EEPROM as Soyo suggests:
I
> > will
> > > > do that and try to reset again: (does that 5 volt still come through
> > > either
> > > > of those two wires I found when the power supply is connected?
> Possibly
> > > > there are capacitors there which might STILL send something through
> when
> > > the
> > > > plug is in the motherboard?) And the first thing I thought of was
to
> > > change
> > > > video cards but that didnt have any effect.
> > > >
> > > > Will report back
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks
> > > >
> > > > Licensed to Quill
> > > > "Erik the Bold" <nospam DeleteThis @KMA.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:vrpfq7nr4i9hb0@corp.supernews.com...
> > > > > Did you have the power cord disconnected whilst resetting ?
> > > > > Are you able to test the monitor and/or video card in another
> machine?
> > > > >
> > > > > "Licensed to Quill" <vintagepen DeleteThis @compuserve.nospam.com> wrote in
> > message
> > > > > news:bphi1t$rnj$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
> > > > > > No, as everyone on the Soyo boards told me, there wasn't
anything
> > > wrong
> > > > > with
> > > > > > the power supply or even the switch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As soon as I plugged the wires from the switch into the proper
> > > position,
> > > > > the
> > > > > > whole things started to power up. (except that there is no
TURBO
> > > > > > connection: I wonder if this could make any difference? Or where
> the
> > > > TURBO
> > > > > > leads are or where they are supposed to go from and to?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So a white screen appeared and them went black as normal and the
> > unit
> > > > > then
> > > > > > went into its power up sequence, counting the memory, telling me
> > about
> > > > the
> > > > > > BIOS, identifying that there was a hard drive there somewhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So I went into the BIOS and saw a black and white screen with
very
> > > > little
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the way of contrast and couldn't see any particular definition
> how
> > to
> > > > > > ascertain which settings were highlit. I left it while I cooked
> > > dinner,
> > > > > > pondering how to increase contrast, - intending to load defaults
> and
> > > > exit
> > > > > or
> > > > > > even possibly load the settings for the hard drive. When I came
> > back,
> > > > the
> > > > > > screen was dead and the light on the monitor flashing,
indicating
> no
> > > > > signal
> > > > > > from the computer at all despite all the whirring. and flashing
> > > lights
> > > > on
> > > > > > the CD ROM on boot-up etc. So obviously I thought the problem
> > might
> > > be
> > > > > > with the graphics card and replaced it to exactly the same
effect.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Then I discovered that someone had left the BIOS reset pins in
the
> > > reset
> > > > > > position, - and that I have plugged the computer in and tried
to
> > run
> > > it
> > > > > > while the reset pins were jumpered together; which certainly
> > > accounts
> > > > > for
> > > > > > the somewhat erratic functioning of the computer which now turns
> on,
> > > > > clicks
> > > > > > and whirrs continuously as if it is trying to do something. But
> it
> > > > seems
> > > > > to
> > > > > > have nothing to tell it to send any signal whatsoever to the
> > graphics
> > > > card
> > > > > > to tell the monitor that there is even a computer connected.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there any solution for the problem or can I reset the BIOS
> > somehow
> > > or
> > > > > > flash it? There is a suspicious message on the Soyo site which
> > states
> > > > > > categorically in lurid red letters: "If flashing goes wrong, it
> may
> > > > > render
> > > > > > your motherboard unbootable thus requiring you to send your
> > > motherboard
> > > > or
> > > > > > BIOS chip in for re-flashing (RMA)".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Obviously I have tried downloading the newest BIOS and the awd
> > program
> > > > to
> > > > > > install it from a floppy; AND turning off the power switch and
> > > putting
> > > > > the
> > > > > > plug back across the 2-3 jumpers to reset the BIOS again and
> neither
> > > > > > worked, - although as I mentioned I did hear the computer
> > desperately
> > > > > > trying to do something. Does everybody think that it is possible
> to
> > > > erase
> > > > > > all the info on the EEPROM, leaving me with no effective BIOS
> > > whatsoever
> > > > > to
> > > > > > flash or direct the computer even to look at the floppy drive to
> > reset
> > > > the
> > > > > > BIOS?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know if what Soyo says is true or if there IS
> something
> > I
> > > > can
> > > > > do
> > > > > > to reset it or if there is some trick to flashing it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is another suspicious looking message on the Soyo site
> telling
> > > me
> > > > > that
> > > > > > If your mainboard does not show the 'Press ALT F2 for AWDFLASH'
> > > message
> > > > > > during POST (when memory is being counted), your mainboard does
> not
> > > > > support
> > > > > > the second method and can only be flashed using method
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I get nothing whatsoever on my screen because nothing
> whatsoever
> > is
> > > > > being
> > > > > > sent to the monitor from the computer, does this mean REAL
trouble
> > or
> > > > > might
> > > > > > disconnecting the power plug from the mainboard do anything?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Licensed to Quill
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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