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Andrew Chalk

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 11:01 pm
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I have three DVD players in three separate computers. Each player has a
stereo jack on the front. On none of the DVD players can sound be heard when
an audio CD is played and a pair of stereo headphones connected to the front
jack. Any idea why this would be the case? All of these computers run W2K
and or W2003 Server, but this wouldn't affect the front audio jack would it?

I have CD players in W98 and Linux machines and the headphone jack works on
both. Is it the OS or the fact that these are CD players, not DVD players?

Many thanks.

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Mike Richter

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:13 am
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Andrew Chalk wrote:
  > I have three DVD players in three separate computers. Each player has
  > a stereo jack on the front. On none of the DVD players can sound be
  > heard when an audio CD is played and a pair of stereo headphones
  > connected to the front jack. Any idea why this would be the case? All
  > of these computers run W2K and or W2003 Server, but this wouldn't
  > affect the front audio jack would it?
  >
  > I have CD players in W98 and Linux machines and the headphone jack
  > works on both. Is it the OS or the fact that these are CD players,
  > not DVD players?

At a guess, those jacks are not intended to be functional; they're
carryovers due to using the same case as was used for a CD-ROM. Another
possibility is that they're tied in to the DVD audio only through some
sort of synthesized pseudo-surround given 5.1 or similar imput.

Have you tried to RTFM?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:32 am
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"Andrew Chalk" <achalk RemoveThis @XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message
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 > I have three DVD players in three separate computers. Each player has
a
 > stereo jack on the front. On none of the DVD players can sound be
heard when
 > an audio CD is played and a pair of stereo headphones connected to the
front
 > jack. Any idea why this would be the case? All of these computers run
W2K
 > and or W2003 Server, but this wouldn't affect the front audio jack
would it?
 >
 > I have CD players in W98 and Linux machines and the headphone jack
works on
 > both. Is it the OS or the fact that these are CD players, not DVD
players?
 >
 > Many thanks.
 >
 >

My best bet would be that you have enabled digital CD audio (default in
WinXP, not sure about 2K etc). In XP, you can disable this in Device
Manager (Right click drive---> Properties). I'm sure that in earlier
versions of media player (7 or Cool, there is an option to use digital
rather than analogue playback.


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Andrew Chalk

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 4:26 am
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I checked that setting, disabled it, and rebooted. No change. Why would this
setting affect whether I can receive audio on the headset jack on the
player? The circuit from the disk to that jack is all internal to the player
isn't it?

Regards

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 > "Andrew Chalk" <achalk.RemoveThis@XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message
 > news:3QkIb.1250$GZ6.124@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com...
  > > I have three DVD players in three separate computers. Each player has
 > a
  > > stereo jack on the front. On none of the DVD players can sound be
 > heard when
  > > an audio CD is played and a pair of stereo headphones connected to the
 > front
  > > jack. Any idea why this would be the case? All of these computers run
 > W2K
  > > and or W2003 Server, but this wouldn't affect the front audio jack
 > would it?
  > >
  > > I have CD players in W98 and Linux machines and the headphone jack
 > works on
  > > both. Is it the OS or the fact that these are CD players, not DVD
 > players?
  > >
  > > Many thanks.
  > >
  > >
 >
 > My best bet would be that you have enabled digital CD audio (default in
 > WinXP, not sure about 2K etc). In XP, you can disable this in Device
 > Manager (Right click drive---> Properties). I'm sure that in earlier
 > versions of media player (7 or Cool, there is an option to use digital
 > rather than analogue playback.
 >
 >
 > --
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 >
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 8:01 am
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 20:01:03 GMT, "Andrew Chalk"
<achalk.TakeThisOut@XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote:

 >I have three DVD players in three separate computers. Each player has a
 >stereo jack on the front. On none of the DVD players can sound be heard when
 >an audio CD is played and a pair of stereo headphones connected to the front
 >jack. Any idea why this would be the case? All of these computers run W2K
 >and or W2003 Server, but this wouldn't affect the front audio jack would it?
 >

Those audio jacks are just that, audio jacks. They are for listening
to audio CDs and nothing more. The audio from DVDs doesn't come
directly from the drive, it is decoded by your PC and outputted
through your sound card.

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Graham Mayor

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:17 am
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The jack on the player will not work if the player communicates with the PC
in digital mode (via the IDE connection). It only works when the connection
is analogue (via the signal cable and sound card). You need to disable
digital playback both in the operating system and in media player.

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Andrew Chalk wrote:
 > I checked that setting, disabled it, and rebooted. No change. Why
 > would this setting affect whether I can receive audio on the headset
 > jack on the player? The circuit from the disk to that jack is all
 > internal to the player isn't it?
 >
 > Regards
 >
 > "George A Hamilton" <george.a.hamilton DeleteThis @bt-openworld.com> wrote in
 > message news:bssuea$dif$1@titan.btinternet.com...
  >>
  >> "Andrew Chalk" <achalk DeleteThis @XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message
  >> news:3QkIb.1250$GZ6.124@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com...
   >>> I have three DVD players in three separate computers. Each player
   >>> has
  >> a
   >>> stereo jack on the front. On none of the DVD players can sound be
  >> heard when
   >>> an audio CD is played and a pair of stereo headphones connected to
   >>> the front jack. Any idea why this would be the case? All of these
   >>> computers run W2K and or W2003 Server, but this wouldn't affect the
   >>> front audio jack
  >> would it?
   >>>
   >>> I have CD players in W98 and Linux machines and the headphone jack
  >> works on
   >>> both. Is it the OS or the fact that these are CD players, not DVD
   >>> players?
   >>>
   >>> Many thanks.
   >>>
   >>>
  >>
  >> My best bet would be that you have enabled digital CD audio (default
  >> in WinXP, not sure about 2K etc). In XP, you can disable this in
  >> Device Manager (Right click drive---> Properties). I'm sure that in
  >> earlier versions of media player (7 or Cool, there is an option to use
  >> digital rather than analogue playback.
  >>
  >>
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  >>
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 6:24 pm
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As Graham said you need to disable digital audio in both the CD properties
control panel and in Media Player. Here are some instructions-
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.ap.dell.com/ap/en/kb/document.asp?DN=FA1049871" target="_blank">http://support.ap.dell.com/ap/en/kb/document.asp?DN=FA1049871</a>
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://support.packardbell-europe.com/scripts/rdr.asp?page=/support/faq/article/art03367.asp&menu=FAQ&cat=Windows&lang=1&c=ap%20headphone%20jack%20on%20cd-rom%20drive%20not%20work" target="_blank">http://support.packardbell-europe.com/scripts/rdr.asp?page=/support/fa...rticle/</a>
My advice, if you want to use the CD drive jacks without having to go back
and forth with the digital audio settings, connect your CD drive analog
output with a cable to your motherboard or soundcard analog audio input.

"Andrew Chalk" <achalk.RemoveThis@XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message
news:3QkIb.1250$GZ6.124@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com...
 > I have three DVD players in three separate computers. Each player has a
 > stereo jack on the front. On none of the DVD players can sound be heard
when
 > an audio CD is played and a pair of stereo headphones connected to the
front
 > jack. Any idea why this would be the case? All of these computers run W2K
 > and or W2003 Server, but this wouldn't affect the front audio jack would
it?
 >
 > I have CD players in W98 and Linux machines and the headphone jack works
on
 > both. Is it the OS or the fact that these are CD players, not DVD players?
 >
 > Many thanks.
 >
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:02 pm
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If the CD playback software is reading the CD in the traditional way by
telling the drive to play audio from a given track, then you will get audio
from the headphone jack. However, Windows Media Player, and some others,
usually use digital playback these days, where they extract the audio
digitally and play through the sound card - you will not get audio through
the headphone jack this way. The main reasons this is done are that it
provides better sound quality (the digital-to-audio converter in most CD
drives in an afterthought and low quality), and also doesn't require an
analog audio cable from the drive to the sound card.

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"Andrew Chalk" <achalk DeleteThis @XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message
news:3QkIb.1250$GZ6.124@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com...
 > I have three DVD players in three separate computers. Each player has a
 > stereo jack on the front. On none of the DVD players can sound be heard
when
 > an audio CD is played and a pair of stereo headphones connected to the
front
 > jack. Any idea why this would be the case? All of these computers run W2K
 > and or W2003 Server, but this wouldn't affect the front audio jack would
it?
 >
 > I have CD players in W98 and Linux machines and the headphone jack works
on
 > both. Is it the OS or the fact that these are CD players, not DVD players?
 >
 > Many thanks.
 >
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Andrew Chalk

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 1:55 am
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Dead right. I had not disabled digital audio IN THE PLAYER (only in the OS).

Thanks, to you and "tomcas" (who also answered).

Regards

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 > If the CD playback software is reading the CD in the traditional way by
 > telling the drive to play audio from a given track, then you will get
audio
 > from the headphone jack. However, Windows Media Player, and some others,
 > usually use digital playback these days, where they extract the audio
 > digitally and play through the sound card - you will not get audio through
 > the headphone jack this way. The main reasons this is done are that it
 > provides better sound quality (the digital-to-audio converter in most CD
 > drives in an afterthought and low quality), and also doesn't require an
 > analog audio cable from the drive to the sound card.
 >
 > --
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 > "Andrew Chalk" <achalk DeleteThis @XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message
 > news:3QkIb.1250$GZ6.124@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com...
  > > I have three DVD players in three separate computers. Each player has a
  > > stereo jack on the front. On none of the DVD players can sound be heard
 > when
  > > an audio CD is played and a pair of stereo headphones connected to the
 > front
  > > jack. Any idea why this would be the case? All of these computers run
W2K
  > > and or W2003 Server, but this wouldn't affect the front audio jack would
 > it?
  > >
  > > I have CD players in W98 and Linux machines and the headphone jack works
 > on
  > > both. Is it the OS or the fact that these are CD players, not DVD
players?
  > >
  > > Many thanks.
  > >
  > >
 >
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Andrew Chalk

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 1:57 am
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Wrong on all counts. See the other replies, and learn.

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 > Andrew Chalk wrote:
  > > I have three DVD players in three separate computers. Each player has
  > > a stereo jack on the front. On none of the DVD players can sound be
  > > heard when an audio CD is played and a pair of stereo headphones
  > > connected to the front jack. Any idea why this would be the case? All
  > > of these computers run W2K and or W2003 Server, but this wouldn't
  > > affect the front audio jack would it?
  > >
  > > I have CD players in W98 and Linux machines and the headphone jack
  > > works on both. Is it the OS or the fact that these are CD players,
  > > not DVD players?
 >
 > At a guess, those jacks are not intended to be functional; they're
 > carryovers due to using the same case as was used for a CD-ROM. Another
 > possibility is that they're tied in to the DVD audio only through some
 > sort of synthesized pseudo-surround given 5.1 or similar imput.
 >
 > Have you tried to RTFM?
 >
 > Mike
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 7:38 pm
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I have an LTD163. If I insert a disc, close the drawer and push the
play button, it plays through the headphone output, just like an
ordinary CD player. Of course I have disabled auto-play at all times,
so I have to do something about the menu that comes up when I insert a
CD. In the case where I want to listen through the front panel of the
player, I check "Take no Action."

Norm Strong



 > "Andrew Chalk" <achalk DeleteThis @XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message
 > news:3QkIb.1250$GZ6.124@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com...
  > > I have three DVD players in three separate computers. Each player
has a
  > > stereo jack on the front. On none of the DVD players can sound be
heard
 > when
  > > an audio CD is played and a pair of stereo headphones connected to
the
 > front
  > > jack. Any idea why this would be the case? All of these computers
run W2K
  > > and or W2003 Server, but this wouldn't affect the front audio jack
would
 > it?
  > >
  > > I have CD players in W98 and Linux machines and the headphone jack
works
 > on
  > > both. Is it the OS or the fact that these are CD players, not DVD
players?
  > >
  > > Many thanks.
  > >
  > >
 >
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2004 1:39 pm
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"Andrew Chalk" <achalk.DeleteThis@XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message
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 > Wrong on all counts. See the other replies, and learn.
 >
 > "Mike Richter" <mrichter.DeleteThis@cpl.net> wrote in message
 > news:3FF26922.7020202@cpl.net...
  > > Andrew Chalk wrote:
   > > > I have three DVD players in three separate computers. Each player has
   > > > a stereo jack on the front. On none of the DVD players can sound be
   > > > heard when an audio CD is played and a pair of stereo headphones
   > > > connected to the front jack. Any idea why this would be the case? All
   > > > of these computers run W2K and or W2003 Server, but this wouldn't
   > > > affect the front audio jack would it?
   > > >
   > > > I have CD players in W98 and Linux machines and the headphone jack
   > > > works on both. Is it the OS or the fact that these are CD players,
   > > > not DVD players?
  > >
  > > At a guess, those jacks are not intended to be functional; they're
  > > carryovers due to using the same case as was used for a CD-ROM. Another
  > > possibility is that they're tied in to the DVD audio only through some
  > > sort of synthesized pseudo-surround given 5.1 or similar imput.
  > >
  > > Have you tried to RTFM?
  > >
  > > Mike
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 12:14 am
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Maybe you should check the last line...

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 > "Andrew Chalk" <achalk.TakeThisOut@XXXmagnacartasoftware.com> wrote in message
 > news:0vIIb.1806$aC1.685749285@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
  > > Wrong on all counts. See the other replies, and learn.
  > >
  > > "Mike Richter" <mrichter.TakeThisOut@cpl.net> wrote in message
  > > news:3FF26922.7020202@cpl.net...
   > > > Andrew Chalk wrote:
   > > > > I have three DVD players in three separate computers. Each player
has
   > > > > a stereo jack on the front. On none of the DVD players can sound be
   > > > > heard when an audio CD is played and a pair of stereo headphones
   > > > > connected to the front jack. Any idea why this would be the case?
All
   > > > > of these computers run W2K and or W2003 Server, but this wouldn't
   > > > > affect the front audio jack would it?
   > > > >
   > > > > I have CD players in W98 and Linux machines and the headphone jack
   > > > > works on both. Is it the OS or the fact that these are CD players,
   > > > > not DVD players?
   > > >
   > > > At a guess, those jacks are not intended to be functional; they're
   > > > carryovers due to using the same case as was used for a CD-ROM.
Another
   > > > possibility is that they're tied in to the DVD audio only through some
   > > > sort of synthesized pseudo-surround given 5.1 or similar imput.
   > > >
   > > > Have you tried to RTFM?
   > > >
   > > > Mike
   > > > --
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